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People who make Daz characters (that look too much like their other characters)

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    dial your own. I dial my own characters and am quite happy to be different. PA storebought characters are nicely done and are great for those who don't want to dial, but they aren't intended to be original or unique. Most tend to conform to a certain accepted look for 3d figures. 

  • cajhincajhin Posts: 154

    Counterpoint: coming from a software background, I'd welcome a system that incentivizes developers to proudly release improved versions of their bestsellers.
    Like DAZ did Victoria 1-8. Same figure, but better. I bought V1 V4 and V8 and it was worth it.
    (Or like Microsoft does NOT have to release Word, WriteStar and DocumentTyper to make money. They just release Word 1 2 3 4 5 ....)
    Would be nice if some artists revisited their best works, poured in everything they learned since then, tuned and polished it, and released it as “same figure v2, best I can do”. I would rather buy a better version of my favorites than a similar rehash with changes for change's sake.
    And yeah I've got a figure of iTellNoNames, it's pretty and I like it. Every week there are new ones that look quite similar, so I'm not really interested. But I don't mind, I check them out, they're pretty, mine's prettier. All good with me as long as I know what I'm getting. Same with textures and eyebrows etc, if you reuse them, ok with me, but it would be nice if I knew that before I purchase. Promo pics only tell so much.

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,290

    I don't buy characters that look like characters I already own.  

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,384
    edited May 2020
    Fauvist said:

     

    Years ago, I bought several of LiquidRust's characters, but they became way too similar after a time.

    There is one LiquidRust Character I find hard to credit as being a V3 character, and it's this one:

    Most V3 characters were instantly identifiable as V3 (regardless of PA). This.. well, rendered in an early version of DS by LiquidRust in Sept 2005. I am still amazed by it in these days of G8F. So, even if LiquidRust's V4 characters became very similar, this early one was very different. I believe it was lost as a result of a HDD failure, which was a terrible shame.

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  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    edited May 2020
    MimicMolly said:

    While I understand that some people view the sameness as a problem since it feels like they're re-buying the same character but slightly tweaked all over again, my question is why would anyone need to buy it if they feel it looks the same as something they already own? There's some vendors who do have a similar style in characters they make, but I've only bought one or two from these vendors when it wasn't included in some bundle or special deal. For the rest? I skip them. I feel the same way towards clothes too.

    I imagine some of the reason is style and I don't mean artistic style. More like ... some characters are hyper realistic and mimic the look and feel of everyday humans, like the bluejaunte and Saiyaness characters. Some are more stylized and some fall in between ... like Mousso's characters who look like famous actors or mimic the look of people who appear on fashion magazines. While this is great diversity and caters to different tastes it can be difficult to blend in all those people into one scene and have them look believably from one world. I guess this is one of the reasons why people wish the same PA makes characters in the same stylistic range but looking entirely different.
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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    Asari said:
    MimicMolly said:

    While I understand that some people view the sameness as a problem since it feels like they're re-buying the same character but slightly tweaked all over again, my question is why would anyone need to buy it if they feel it looks the same as something they already own? There's some vendors who do have a similar style in characters they make, but I've only bought one or two from these vendors when it wasn't included in some bundle or special deal. For the rest? I skip them. I feel the same way towards clothes too.

     

    I imagine some of the reason is style and I don't mean artistic style. More like ... some characters are hyper realistic and mimic the look and feel of everyday humans, like the bluejaunte and Saiyaness characters. Some are more stylized and some fall in between ... like Mousso's characters who look like famous actors or mimic the look of people who appear on fashion magazines. While this is great diversity and caters to different tastes it can be difficult to blend in all those people into one scene and have them look believably from one world. I guess this is one of the reasons why people wish the same PA makes characters in the same stylistic range but looking entirely different.

    There are SO many morphs you can use to create your own characters! Create your own style!
    Also, in real life, people are very diverse. The cover model who goes to pick up a prescription from CVS is going to look a lot different from the cashier but they are in the same CVS...

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    edited May 2020
    Wonderland said:
    Asari said:
    MimicMolly said:

    While I understand that some people view the sameness as a problem since it feels like they're re-buying the same character but slightly tweaked all over again, my question is why would anyone need to buy it if they feel it looks the same as something they already own? There's some vendors who do have a similar style in characters they make, but I've only bought one or two from these vendors when it wasn't included in some bundle or special deal. For the rest? I skip them. I feel the same way towards clothes too.

     

    I imagine some of the reason is style and I don't mean artistic style. More like ... some characters are hyper realistic and mimic the look and feel of everyday humans, like the bluejaunte and Saiyaness characters. Some are more stylized and some fall in between ... like Mousso's characters who look like famous actors or mimic the look of people who appear on fashion magazines. While this is great diversity and caters to different tastes it can be difficult to blend in all those people into one scene and have them look believably from one world. I guess this is one of the reasons why people wish the same PA makes characters in the same stylistic range but looking entirely different.

    There are SO many morphs you can use to create your own characters! Create your own style!
    Also, in real life, people are very diverse. The cover model who goes to pick up a prescription from CVS is going to look a lot different from the cashier but they are in the same CVS...

    Yeah you're right. But some people prefer individually sculpted morphs. Yes you can do a lot with morph dials but hand sculpted morphs offer some unique aspect that you can't achieve with morph dials. That's why most PA characters come with custom sculpts.

    Second, handsculpted PA faces come with HD details that align perfectly with their sculpt. You don't get this if you use your own morphs and the results are less perfect.

    Third - this is like the male content discussion. People ask for Male content that don't sell well and people are told why don't you create your own content. Except HD morphs and dforce SBH hair you can do everything yourself. But maybe some people don't want to? Or can't? It takes some skill and time and patience to create good characters, be it a custom morph or via the morph dials. Not everyone want to do this, that's why people buy characters. Nothing wrong with that. I only own 15 or so characters because I like to create my own stuff but not everyone wants to and that's why we have so many assets in the store.

    Finally, this is DAZ. People use DAZ so they don't have to do everything themselves and still can have good results. This is the fun part of DAZ. We can do renders with a great variety of models and don't have to learn how to model, sculpt and texture if we don't want to. If you want to it's great. If you don't want to it's fine, too, because you can pay others to do it for you.

    Wonderland said:
    Asari said:
    MimicMolly said:

    While I understand that some people view the sameness as a problem since it feels like they're re-buying the same character but slightly tweaked all over again, my question is why would anyone need to buy it if they feel it looks the same as something they already own? There's some vendors who do have a similar style in characters they make, but I've only bought one or two from these vendors when it wasn't included in some bundle or special deal. For the rest? I skip them. I feel the same way towards clothes too.

     

    I imagine some of the reason is style and I don't mean artistic style. More like ... some characters are hyper realistic and mimic the look and feel of everyday humans, like the bluejaunte and Saiyaness characters. Some are more stylized and some fall in between ... like Mousso's characters who look like famous actors or mimic the look of people who appear on fashion magazines. While this is great diversity and caters to different tastes it can be difficult to blend in all those people into one scene and have them look believably from one world. I guess this is one of the reasons why people wish the same PA makes characters in the same stylistic range but looking entirely different.

    There are SO many morphs you can use to create your own characters! Create your own style!
    Also, in real life, people are very diverse. The cover model who goes to pick up a prescription from CVS is going to look a lot different from the cashier but they are in the same CVS...

    Post edited by Asari on
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