Realistic Renders.....NOT!! 13: A new room to fill!

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,162
    edited December 1969

    ...well, as long as I can do that in another 2D app than Photo$hop, not a major issue.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Possibly, it depends what you're used to and what it can do. Everything I used was Photoshop specific. Gimp could probably do it but I'm not familiar with it. Catharina at Mec4D uses Deep Paint:

    http://www.mec4d.com/store/index.php?_a=product&product_id=23

    I'm sure you could find something that'll meet your needs. If you look at my textures, the wrinkles under the nose are cloned from the ones between the brows and the ones on the lips are from wrinkles around the eyes. I also reloaded and flopped the main texture and cloned parts for the other side of the face. I'd forgotten how clever and useful the clone stamp could be!

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,162
    edited December 1969

    ...Gimp has a clone and heal tool.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    After resetting the lights for my zombie, I went back to the Caisson set up and refined that. The results are great! It's ok saving time when you need to, but not so much if it's at the expense of quality. I found the render time for the one below was still pretty reasonable. I will add that the light set is fine for portrait and beauty shots, but, not really for general use. For that I've now found you need contrast and shadows. Yep, it's time for me to get out of the 'one size fits all' mentality.

    CHEERS!

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...Gimp has a clone and heal tool.

    Cool, I look forward to seeing how you get on with it.

    CHEERS!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited January 2014

    Oh, by the way, regarding the OS portion of my new system build, I've decided to go with an OEM version of Windows 7 Pro 64. I can get a hologram version, which installs on any machine for under £50. Compare that to £130 for 8.1 Pro and that is one MASSIVE saving, and with a budget like mine that's what really counts!

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,624
    edited December 1969

    Yes, I am always use OEM versions of Windows for home build computers. They are significantly cheaper.
    And when the new version of Windows will come, often one can get really good prices on upgrades.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Very true, though you can bet that Windows 9 will still be geared towards all those touchy feely apps and you then have to pay wads of cash to get monitors and the like to support them. This laptop will most definitely be the last off the shelf computer I'll ever buy or use. These big manufacturers put all the cheaper components into them, so they wear out quicker and then they wait, rubbing their hands with glee, for you to stump up the readies for the latest model, which of course will probably be worse than the last one because technology moves ever quicker and so new models are pushed out ever quicker.

    Nahh, with all the research I've done into self builds it's definitely the way to go, and better components seem to be a lot cheaper than you might think when bought individually.

    CHEERS!

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited January 2014

    Rogerbee said:
    These are the original shader settings under DS default lights. You can see now how much work I had to do. It's odd really as the promos look much more like mine do.

    CHEERS!

    Thats one thing I DON'T miss not using UE pre lights like your pic in this one I find it looks like liquid diarrhea has been smeared on throughout.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,162
    edited December 1969

    Artini said:
    Yes, I am always use OEM versions of Windows for home build computers. They are significantly cheaper.
    And when the new version of Windows will come, often one can get really good prices on upgrades.

    ...I do the same. As my workstation is 64 bit and notebook 32 bit, I need separate versions anyway.
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,162
    edited January 2014

    Rogerbee said:

    Very true, though you can bet that Windows 9 will still be geared towards all those touchy feely apps and you then have to pay wads of cash to get monitors and the like to support them. This laptop will most definitely be the last off the shelf computer I'll ever buy or use. These big manufacturers put all the cheaper components into them, so they wear out quicker and then they wait, rubbing their hands with glee, for you to stump up the readies for the latest model, which of course will probably be worse than the last one because technology moves ever quicker and so new models are pushed out ever quicker.

    Nahh, with all the research I've done into self builds it's definitely the way to go, and better components seem to be a lot cheaper than you might think when bought individually.

    CHEERS!


    ...actually in an article I read in ZDNet, Win8/8,1 is being considered another failure for Micosoftt like Vista and ME was. The thought is they may scale back to a more workstation/notebook based oriented OS along the lines of 7 without the tiling and touch based UI.

    ...and hopefully the trusty old "Start" button.


    As to "off the shelf" systems.

    Indeed save for the super high priced gaming rigs, they usually give you a barely adequate PSU for the components it has and cram it all into a small case with inadequate cooling. To have purchased what I built as an "off the shelf" system at the time would have easily cost me well over another 1,000$.

    I also look at many store bought systems as pretty much being outdated while they are still on the display shelf. The old adage about how the value of a new car drops when you drive it off the lot applies even more so to off the shelf computers.

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  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    I have no problem with 8.1, but it's also clear that Microsoft got greedy and tried to play in Apple's world. I wonder how the Surface tablet is selling?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,162
    edited December 1969

    ...according to the article, not all that well. iPad is still the leader.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Bobvan said:

    Thats one thing I DON'T miss not using UE pre lights like your pic in this one I find it looks like liquid diarrhea has been smeared on throughout.

    Yeah, it did look slightly better with the Hardware renderer, but who uses that!?

    CHEERS!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:

    ...actually in an article I read in ZDNet, Win8/8,1 is being considered another failure for Micosoftt like Vista and ME was. The thought is they may scale back to a more workstation/notebook based oriented OS along the lines of 7 without the tiling and touch based UI.

    ...and hopefully the trusty old "Start" button.


    As to "off the shelf" systems.

    Indeed save for the super high priced gaming rigs, they usually give you a barely adequate PSU for the components it has and cram it all into a small case with inadequate cooling. To have purchased what I built as an "off the shelf" system at the time would have easily cost me well over another 1,000$.

    I also look at many store bought systems as pretty much being outdated while they are still on the display shelf. The old adage about how the value of a new car drops when you drive it off the lot applies even more so to off the shelf computers.

    3D World said similar. I so wish I'd built my own instead of getting that lousy Dell laptop in the first place, mind you I'd still be upgrading round about now anyway!

    CHEERS!

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited December 1969

    Off topic: I just found a copy of Windows ME in a 512 MB virtual disk. wow I forgot I had a copy of Windows ME. I wonder if I can install Gimp in Windows ME. I'll find out soon.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I have no problem with 8.1, but it's also clear that Microsoft got greedy and tried to play in Apple's world. I wonder how the Surface tablet is selling?

    I don't mind 8 (I got caught up in the marketing hype and the cheap upgrade price.), but, it killed of bits of this laptop and with no replacement drivers. Most of what's in here is using legacy drivers. Also, an OEM copy of 8.1 Pro is over £130, 7 Pro can be had for just over £50. Everything I've looked at has drivers for it and there's no need for Classic Shell or Aero Glass as 7 already has the features that they recreate. I've definitely made my choice there.

    Initially the OS would have been the most expensive part of the build and now that is the graphics card, but, by the time I'm ready to buy it there may be newer ones out and the ones I like could be cheaper.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Off topic: I just found a copy of Windows ME in a 512 MB virtual disk. wow I forgot I had a copy of Windows ME. I wonder if I can install Gimp in Windows ME. I'll find out soon.

    Good luck with that.

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  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    Drivers are always a problem with a new OS, particularly in the early days of the OSes release. When the equipment is older is when it really becomes a problem, because they may never make drivers for them.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited January 2014

    I know, I have a fingerprint reader on this and thanks to a Windows 8 update that snuck under my radar, it stopped working overnight and the update meant I couldn't go back and use the older drivers.

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited December 1969

    I can't put win 8 back on my machine till R3 gets released..

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Won't it work with 7!?

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited December 1969

    Of course it will what I am saying is 2.5 does not play well with 8 but R3 will so I can then choose whether I stay with 7 or move back to 8

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    How well did you get on with 8? As I said, I don't mind it, but, for cost effectiveness, 7 is the only viable option when it comes to system building. OEM prices for 8 and 8.1 will more than likely plummet when 9 comes out, so I could upgrade back to them if needs be.

    CHEERS!

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,624
    edited January 2014

    Has bought these dynamic clothes on the recent sale.
    http://www.daz3d.com/dynamic-lingerie-collection-for-victoria-6-and-victoria-5-supermodel
    I have not used the dynamic clothes in Daz Studio for a long time. Now I like them.
    Just have set up collisions and have run drape for one frame only and I like the results.
    DS 4.6 Pro render (8 minutes 14 seconds) with Lantios lights.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Looks good, though the SSS might be a little high as there seems to be too much orange around her mouth.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,624
    edited December 1969

    I have just used default V6 and has forgotten, that one can adjust SSS strength on her.
    I wonder why the creator of V6 make such a strength value as a default.

  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,905
    edited December 1969

    Artini said:
    I have just used default V6 and has forgotten, that one can adjust SSS strength on her.
    I wonder why the creator of V6 make such a strength value as a default.

    This is just a guess, but you might be able to fit it by turning sss off/down on teeth, gums, etc. Poser has similar results with higher sss values, maybe DS has the same issue.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Artini said:
    I have just used default V6 and has forgotten, that one can adjust SSS strength on her.
    I wonder why the creator of V6 make such a strength value as a default.

    75% seems to be the default and I haven't had any issues there, you could always try a different colour for the SSS, Anna's colour is 252 210 189, that works well for the Danae Dublin render I will post shortly.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Ok, after that Bjorn test with higher light settings worked so well, I just had to try them out on a female texture. I decided to give Danae's Dublin a whirl with the AoA SSS shader and I think I got her looking pretty good. The head is 50% V6, 25% Gia and 25% Josie.

    It's a departure from zombies, but, I may well start my system build next week and will want something to do while waiting to afford parts

    CHEERS!

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