Can I opt out of DAZ Connect and just have the same items through DIM?
RKane_1
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[Can I opt out of DAZ Connect and just have the same items through DIM?] If so, how?
If not, why not?
I don't like the fact that I have to download it through DIM then install it AGAIN through DAZ Connect. I HATE it.
I have the drive space, I don't mind. Is this possible?
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I also hate having a separate directory.
Hate it. Want it dead.
Real dead.
Installing takes TWICE as long.
It is truly a miserable "innovation" that does not serve the customer at all.
You don't have to install products twice. I made this error a long time ago.
I now never install stuff inside the Studio application (Connect). Even DAZ requires some products like plug-ins to be installed using DIM.
I only install via DIM. I don't see a reason to ever have to download via Connect - if you don't want to. I think there where, at one point, a small handful of items that where Connect only but as far as I know you can just download those via DIM now. Out of the thousands of items in my product library I think I might have downloaded maybe 2 or 3 via Connect, I always prefered DIM though.
How easy is it to transfer iems installed via DAZ Connect into standard Content Library? Can someone give me a walk through?
And for some reason, my l;ast purchase was all DAZ Connect. How can I make it so it never installs that way in the future?
If you don't log in when you open DAZ you don't use connect. To make sure that doesn't happen go to edit/preferences/startup and uncheck the "automatically log in with remembered credentials" button. That will turn it off and you will get the screen that allows you to use DAZ off-line. As far as the deinstalling, I haven't a clue, I never installed anything via connect.
You are lucky and smart. Don't bother. It is a pain.
I've never used DIM or Connect. I split my content into a slew of individual runtimes and install everything manually. That way I know that if something screws up, I know exactly who to blame...
You are just smart. DIM never did me wrong, though... til DAZ Connect reared its ugly goshdarn head.
I treid uninstalling the DAZ Connect stuff and even thpough I am not logged in and I asked DIM to uninstall it, it still shows up. *[
It's like herpes. It won't go away! :O
AAGH! What files do I have to delete on my computer to mke the Connect files go away so I can reinstall? This is driving me BATTY!
Shouldn't Connect install the same place that DIM does?
If not, if they install into a different location, what you can try is load something installed via Connect, go to the Surfaces Tab and see the path for where the textures are installed (you should be able to see the path by hovering your mouse over one of the textures). That should show you what drive and library they're installed in at least.
No, it's two different systems - Connect has its own My DAZ Connect Library. And according to DAZ it's either DIM or Connect - don't install a product with both, that will cause problems.
And at least for some products (those that include Poser files) you can't install them again using Connect once you have installed them with DIM, even if you have uninstalled again with DIM. DIM does something to the database which isn't reversed if you later uninstall again via DIM, and which causes these products to fail or malfunction it you later install them with Connect. It may affect all products, I don't know, but those I tried with all included Poser files (a test I did for a friend who uses Poser and wanted to know if she could use Connect to install her DAZ Poser content for use in Poser).
It seems that you can do it the other way round though (uninstall from Connect, reinstall with DIM) without any problems though I have only tested that briefly.
I'm not really sure what DS does though when it offers to install missing (owned but not installed) required products for products you load - it looks to me like it uses Connect here. So I say no, and install them with DIM instead as I use DIM only for everything.
You can't uninstall Connect stuff with DIM, you must do it from within Connect. It's two different systems.
What Taoz said. Uninstall everything through DAZ Connect. Perhaps, uninstall what you have downloaded through DIM too and start with a clean content install.
Also, there are no items that are DAZ Connect only. There was the entire shebang about it with DAZ Store when they did the encrypted stunt, and after that, there was always a DIM option. There's the rare case of manual only install, and DIM only install, but that is mostly for software.
I made the mistake of using connect once, and then when I moved computers, I couldn't transfer the items across. As far as I remember you have to do it one item at a time. It's a really cumbersome process and will keep the items in the connect library. Best just to delete it all and redownload it through DIM.
I don't like it either. I have had a broken Carrara 8.5 hair caps icon in DAZ Connect for weeks now & can't make it go away. I installed all that stuff via DIM.
When you have installed stuff, that should make the files go away, if it does not, then you need to delete the file manually. However it may have left stuff in the smart content database, that may give you the impression that it is still installed. To overcome this, reset the Database, and then re-import to get a clean view in the database.
If you copy the database across too the Connect-installed items will still show. if not erinstalling should not redownload, barring any intervening updates, but it will need to verify that the files are current (although that hasn't always worked for me).
This shouldn't happen - if DS is not seeing the DIM installs then there is an issue on your system.
Would you please give me step by step breakdown of how to uninstall DAZ Connect Items and reinstall them only usin DIM and the older conventional method, please?
Right-click on the product, in the products tab of Smart Content or in the container list under Products in the Content Library, and select Uninstall. You can, but shouldn't need to, uninstall and reinstall the DIM version - however, once the Connect version is gone the DIM version will be used, if present, unless there's a pathing or database issue.
I thank you kindly for your assistance. :)
Thanks. I do have the content in my DAZ Connect directory that actually is no longer installed. It is still on my HD from about 3 years ago where sometimes after a DIM install my Install tab (not the Smart Content tab) would still show the product as a b&w icon so I would install via DAZ Connect the same product again because the grey icon bugged me. Probably free a few gigabytes of space.
So I will exit DIM & DAZ Studio, delete my entire DAZ Connect directory's content, restart DAZ Studio and re-import my metadata in the Content Library tab as you say in another thread.
"So I will exit DIM & DAZ Studio, delete my entire DAZ Connect directory's content, restart DAZ Studio and re-import my metadata in the Content Library tab as you say in another thread."
Richard? Is this is the correct procedure to remove DAZ Connect content, correct?
Well don't sue me if it doesn't work! You might want to simply rename your DAZ Connect directory first, so it is not seen, before deleting if everything goes as planned.
Also remember to reset the database first, to get rid of any unwanted entries from CMS. If you have user defined categories, or used things like Riversofts scripts that add smart content entries, then you should export your User Data before doing the reset.
Indeed you can and welcome to the dark side.
I use about 25 custom libraries, some of which DIM installs content to.
They were DRM products, requiring Connect to access them; it remains the reason I don't use Connect, as whilst there were products requireing it, there are no longer (thank you Daz), the functionality is still there.
I think the idea was that things wouldn't have to be "installed", until needed. Thus, saving you from needing tons of space in hard-drives, being filled with content you will never actually use, or no-longer intend to use.
I have drives filled with a LOT of content. More than I can physically ever use in my lifetime. Literally... However, I have several TB of drive-space. Though, with these new items, that will fill up fast, as it does when we get more detail and variety with new items. The average character package, of items, went from something like 10MB to 300MB to 1.6GB, just through V4->Gen3->Gen8.
I honestly wish there was more of a "use anything", with a credit-based system. When you use something, you lose a few credits. If you use it again, you lose a lot less, but you still lose some, up to a point. Paying $40 for a 3D (virtual shirt), which only costs $19 as a physical shirt in a store, is a bit much. Paying $0.25 to use that shirt for one month, than $0.20 the next time, then $0.15 the next... then never using it again... Priceless, and a more realistic model for income, for all. (I can see paying $40 for exclusive rights to it, for use "as you wish, in any form". But not paying $40 then being told that you can only use it to produce an image, "rendering", of the shirt. For that price, it should be able to be modified, reproduced in any 3D program or game, be edited/morphed and resold as a new item.)
Well, this is a DAZ Connect directory from 3 years ago. The new location I've set to the same location as my top level Content Library and so I'm not going to delete that. I think making them the same has mostly creating overlap between DIM & DAZ Connect for the data directory. I probably have redunction installs of products from 2 1/2 years ago when I changed that location & let DAZ Connect download overnight.
Deleting that old location did free up 3GB space & fix my broken Carrara Hair Cap product icon.
So for my particular installation I have no problem having done that.
One day, I may delete everything via DIM queue, move the old content that's left to a new location, and then reinstall everything again via DIM queue. That would get rid of DAZ Connect installed content for sure.
You should also be able to uninstall all DAZ Connect content from within DAZ Studio in a queue process but I can't find out how to do it. I seem to remember RMB & Deinstall being available but it isn't anymore (4.12.0.67). Maybe when I reimported the Metadata today it broken that functionality (it labeled everything as new too).
Connect uses /Data/cloud/1_sku/ for products, so there will be no overlap with DIM installs - which are ignored if there is a Connect install.