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Not for the moment, but Mike has asked DAZ to look into it.
Edit after telling me a zip file would be offered & I posted this I was now told that Beta will only stay via DIM now that's piss poor customer service...
Well that's too bad... I hope that a release following this beta is offered as a zip file.
They assured me all official releases will have a bit rock installer do I trust them well you know...
So the current beta (DAZ Studio Pro BETA 4.6.0.81) is ONLY going to be available using DIM? Seriously?? I've been updating my content library again, and I've been finding lots of content that is only available via DIM -- I ASSUMED it was just a[nother] glitch in the store software; now I'm wondering if it isn't something else. Listen up, DAZ: if you're trying to force your customers into using DIM, I will drop you like a bad habit. I've been giving you a second chance recently, but something like this can change that pretty damn quick. You make or broker some really cool content, but I (and a great many others) don't NEED to use anything you have to offer. Repeatedly antagonizing your customer base really isn't a successful business model.
This is kind of a departure from the last few releases -- in fact, I don't recall ANY of the other beta releases being limited to DIM downloads. What is so special or unique about this version that requires it?
Edited by Moderator to remove quote
This is the first beta that could be installed in parallel with the release version. Previous betas replaced the release version.
This is the first beta that could be installed in parallel with the release version. Previous betas replaced the release version.And it requires the DIM paths to get that done. It reads your install paths for the info to set the Beta up as Parallel.
I think we still have a choice sorry I don't agree with this
Its ok I will wait for the next official release and this better not be the case again... If DIM would import the 200G of DS content i have installed it may be different it's just not practical...
You could use DIM only for new stuff.
I no longer purchase anything since the whole G2 fiasco. This is certainly not going to win me back sides I have more then I need the 200G is not counting my Poser runtime folder
DAZ 3D wishes the users to be able to RUN the beta in parallel with the Version installed at this time. That means DIM. They do not wish users to be forced to Install over a version that is working with a Version that might not work for all users. I see that as a step forward.
You could use DIM only for new stuff.
Not only that.
You could just use it for the beta and leave the rest as it is.
Just untick everything you want to be untouched and everything will be fine.
Should we report any bugs with this beta? If so, where? bugs.daz3d.com has been unavailable since Friday AM.
If it is something our customer service staff can help you with, they will help you. If it is a bug then it drops right into the bug tracker. No more separate accounts, no more guessing what category a bug belongs in, no more blocked e-mails so a customer can't register, and a nice friendly user interface. :)
If it is something our customer service staff can help you with, they will help you. If it is a bug then it drops right into the bug tracker. No more separate accounts, no more guessing what category a bug belongs in, no more blocked e-mails so a customer can't register, and a nice friendly user interface. :)
where are all the bugs I filed for 4.6 on Mantis?
where are all the bugs I filed for 4.6 on Mantis?Still in Mantis, which we (DAZ3D) still have access to and are still working from. We didn't throw out all that hard work of yours.
ok, good to know I'm just looking for closure (on a bug)
DAZ 3D wishes the users to be able to RUN the beta in parallel with the Version installed at this time. That means DIM. They do not wish users to be forced to Install over a version that is working with a Version that might not work for all users. I see that as a step forward.
I truly believe that there is a hidden agenda for everything to go in that direction. Gots to nip it in the bud NOW!
Edit I am not bashing the product I have no interest in it 2 very different issues...
Its not really a hidden agenda, DAZ is trying to bring in new users/customer and they feel DIM will make installing easier for them. Although from my experience just about every new user friendly idea DAZ has tried has been IMO a failure. First Category View as the default way to view content, that one confused old users and new users alike. Smart Content is even worse as the CMS and its database is so easily broken. The new dress-up doll game like default interface, not only doesn't make the program easy and intuitive to use, it makes it difficult for old users to help new users because we don't use that UI and have no idea what they are talking about with 'left side tab' or 'right side tab'. Then lastly is the default library location for Studio being different from the default install location in DIM. For content and plug-ins I like DIM but for software I want a proper installer and I want to have more control where the software and its support files/folders are installed. This last part is becoming more important as new computers often have an SSD for OS and mechanical HD for everything else.
Like my set up on both machines.. All I am saying is leave us the option. I even posted their own advert promising zip installers. They do say that DIM does give options of where to install but like I said too many times I have too much content and I have my system to keep track of it. For the most part I run DS more like 3
Hidden Agenda? http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/20834_4/ Nothing hidden at all.
Old installers nothing saying that we will have to use DIM I have re attached their advert
What about the advert above it clearly says they would keep zip files
Yeah that's what I thought...
What about the advert above it clearly says they would keep zip filesThey are zip files.
I don't really have time to beta test for Daz right now but I did notice something off the bat,
- first my personal layout and styles were not an available when changing the interface (ie. the ones I made with Pro 4.6.0.18) and
- the only plugin I had trouble with was Genesis Generation X. It was not even showing up in teh list of available plugins so I can enter a serial number. I uninstalled and re-installed 'GenX' and still had no luck after restarting my machine. I did this with both DS4_D3DGenX_1.1.0.0_Win64.exe and DS4_D3DGenX_1.2.0.0_Win64.exe.
Hope this info is useful and GL to the rest of you I have several pieces in mind and I just do not have the patience to work with a beta right now. If you feel the need to move this post or if you require a support ticket please take it upon yourself to do so because I will not be doing that.