LATONYA 8

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,982
    edited September 2018
    xyer0 said:

    DAZ you're killin me!!

    I can't keep up!  I must be in the minority, but I found Zelara to be exquisite. Latonya 8 is GORGEOUS

    :D

    I agree. I think quality-wise and detail-wise Zelara 8 was a step up. And Latonya 8 is really beautiful. I prefer her with some skin shader adjustments but that can be said for the way I feel about most figures - because I'm like addicted to making tweaks to skin settings. lol All in all though I'm really happy with Latonya and what she brings to my G8 gene pool. 

    Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the Daz Core stable.

    While I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

     https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

    I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

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  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006
    edited September 2018

    Ollie, Floyd, Alexandra, and Edward also had HD at least temporarily bundled with either the base or the Pro packs. And possibly others, I just knew those because they are ones I have, and I haven't bought the HD separately.

     

    **Scratch Alexandra maybe? Might have been a different discount offer.

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

    Ollie, Floyd, Alexandra, and Edward also had HD at least temporarily bundled with either the base or the Pro packs. And possibly others, I just knew those because they are ones I have, and I haven't bought the HD separately.

     

    **Scratch Alexandra maybe? Might have been a different discount offer.

    Guess I'm just bummed. Having to buy the HD means getting one less addon that's cheaper. I'd have like to get those boots or the sneakers.

  • Oh, yeah sorry if that wasn't clear, I was just pointing out that it wasn't just Mabel, they had included it in another of other bundles (or bases), but not this time sad

  • seems to really be the females that miss out on the hd included think all the males for awhile had it included 

  • btw there is a green banner up extra 10% off code so those haven't bought yet can use this too for extra discount if you have it and it has unlimited uses but you do miss out on the 2 free pro bundles but they were only one day only anyway 

  • or maybe you haven't missed out on the free pro bundles that offer is still up though it may be connected to the new thorne male 8 boy unsure if this is another pro bundle just the promo promoting he's new is showing so far but unsure whether they extended the latonya deals or not

  • The clothes in this bundle probably the worst yet, the sports diva, ugh, and the weird space costume, really why would Latonya go in space.  Such a "diva" would have much better hair. And I can do without the "yeah girl" expressions. Be that as it may, she's in the cart

    Say whaaaaaat!?!

    Love it!!devil

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,784
    edited September 2018

    Is anyone else getting these weird blotches on her elbows and hands???

    And the Sports Diva Outfit looks decent with Fabiana's Shader Plan Knits  BUT the dress is pretty bad. Here I had reduced LaTonya's body by around 80% so it's mostly just plain G8 and I just added a tiny bit of cleavage from regular Daz morphs and immediately there was pokethrough and no morphs to fix it although adding a smoothing modifier worked but why are there no morphs on it (except a full body morph for Kaylee and Penny)? 

    That's just because to allow the knuckles, knees, elbows to bend comfortably the flesh in those areas needs lots of wrinkles and so there is more skin there and that makes it thicker skin density per cubic meter and so that makes it appear darker because less light is directly penetrating all the skin in the folds of those wrinkles. It is the same for everybody not just folk with a lot of melanin but those will appear pinker, redder, you know, whatever shade the skin is predominates.

    These renders do though tempt me to buy her but I won't. I need to stick to me bit of discipline and get toony characters only.

    But the dark blotches are painted on the skin map. It's not about the light hitting it. I still like her a lot and can fix it in Photoshop. People are saying discoloration happens IRL when darker skinned people get older but she doesn't look THAT old to me and I think the texture artist should have blended the tones better just as I will have to do in post myself. I may even work on the texture maps themselves to make it easier. Maybe those areas could be a little darker but the way it is, it looks like she's been playing in the mud LOL. 

    Well that's the only way to do it without creating hundreds of extra polygons to create all the needed wrinkles and that creates a bit of a problem too because when the joints are bent so that the wrinkles are mostly stretched out it will allow more light and the area will more closely match the rest of the skin. Probably should compromise and add a L.I.E. or diffuse overlay or something as a makeup option that is darkened wrinkles for the elbows, knees, knuckles and so on.  I know that sounds wierd but I can't imagine they'd model all those wrinkles in there.

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  • NoswenNoswen Posts: 358

    The clothes in this bundle probably the worst yet, the sports diva, ugh, and the weird space costume, really why would Latonya go in space.  Such a "diva" would have much better hair. And I can do without the "yeah girl" expressions. Be that as it may, she's in the cart

    Say whaaaaaat!?!

    Love it!!devil

    Agreed! Fits the retro sci fi pin up cover style perfectly

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,368
    xyer0 said:

    DAZ you're killin me!!

    I can't keep up!  I must be in the minority, but I found Zelara to be exquisite. Latonya 8 is GORGEOUS

    :D

    I agree. I think quality-wise and detail-wise Zelara 8 was a step up. And Latonya 8 is really beautiful. I prefer her with some skin shader adjustments but that can be said for the way I feel about most figures - because I'm like addicted to making tweaks to skin settings. lol All in all though I'm really happy with Latonya and what she brings to my G8 gene pool. 

    Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the Daz Core stable.

    While I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

     https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

    I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

    Thanks. I'll try that.

  • Didn't they ask which pro bundle they should do next in a thread?
    I wonder who said an overweight black woman...

    Except for this hair https://www.daz3d.com/channen-hair-for-genesis-3--8-females this pro bundle is pretty lame.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    Didn't they ask which pro bundle they should do next in a thread?
    I wonder who said an overweight black woman...

    Except for this hair https://www.daz3d.com/channen-hair-for-genesis-3--8-females this pro bundle is pretty lame.

    I'm overweight, Latonya is buxom. And she has a beautiful face. It's the wardrobe items in this bundle that put me off. I would still have bought the pro bundle, though, for the base character and hair, if it had also included the HD addon. I suppose that's balanced out by the customer(s) who wouldn't have bought the Pro bundle had it included the HD addon. (Poor Daz. Darned if they do and darned if they don't—include the HD addon!)

  • NathNath Posts: 2,972
    L'Adair said:

    Didn't they ask which pro bundle they should do next in a thread?
    I wonder who said an overweight black woman...

    Except for this hair https://www.daz3d.com/channen-hair-for-genesis-3--8-females this pro bundle is pretty lame.

    I'm overweight, Latonya is buxom. And she has a beautiful face. It's the wardrobe items in this bundle that put me off. I would still have bought the pro bundle, though, for the base character and hair, if it had also included the HD addon. I suppose that's balanced out by the customer(s) who wouldn't have bought the Pro bundle had it included the HD addon. (Poor Daz. Darned if they do and darned if they don't—include the HD addon!)

    I was mostly pleased that the larger discounts were also available for those of us who wanted just the base model and some of the add-ons (like the HD ;-) )

  • NoswenNoswen Posts: 358

    My first quickly set up render for Latonya, I really didn't like the eyebrows so I replaced them with the OnFleek ones, other than that everything for the figure is basic settings with the hair and the expression both from the bundle.

  • Just some thoughts:

    1) I just don’t think we’re going for see realistic Asian figures this time. Thankfully, some of the PAs have been making some Asian figures that are better than what DAZ has come up with in the past.

    2) Always glad for an extra 10%.

    3) I love the idea of the free Pro add-one, but what about those of us who didn’t get any add ones because we owned them already. Admittedly, we got a discount on LaTonya (I think). I think I got the LaTonya Pro (with 2+ add-one) for around $33.

    4) Personally, LaTonya is the love child of Bethany 7 and Monique 8.

    5) As for the included HDs in pro-packages, they’ve only been a part of the releases of males. When we do get a male release, the number of male figures that come with a release is generally lower when compared to the female releases. As such, I think DAZ has added the HDs to those releases to balance the number of figures one gets with those packages. 

    Just thoughts.

    Jason 

  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016

    I don't really agree with those who feel Latonya is replacing Monique. She's just an additional black woman character, who seems to be a wildly different type than Monique. There's both Alexandra and Penny as older, white women. Owen and Lucas are both young, hot (white) dudes. Lillth and Genvieve from last generation were both dark and gothy. (And were apparently replaced by Charlotte.) It's good to have options. 

    I don't think Monique's gonna be Latonya's tag-along friend. They're probably each other's best arch-Nemesis. wink

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,408
    edited September 2018
    5) As for the included HDs in pro-packages, they’ve only been a part of the releases of males. When we do get a male release, the number of male figures that come with a release is generally lower when compared to the female releases. As such, I think DAZ has added the HDs to those releases to balance the number of figures one gets with those packages. 

    Just thoughts.

    Jason 

    The Alexandra, Edie and Mabel Pro Bundles all came with the HD Add On free at the time of their release.  

     

    3) I love the idea of the free Pro add-one, but what about those of us who didn’t get any add ones because we owned them already.

    We're hosed.  I thought they'd finally come up with a decent solution by offering alternative bundles, but it seems that DAZ is determined to keep rewarding late adopters over those who buy the products immediately.  It's already got to the point where I'm only buying a fraction of the PC+ items on release that I used to, since we all know they'll be knocked down to half price or less within a few months of release, and it looks like I'll be waiting on Latonya for the same reason.  

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

     I still don't have a banner.  How will I get that extra percentage off if I don't?

    Has anyone gotten banners?  I've bought dang near every pro bundle clear back to beginning of pro bundles, so no banner??

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,424
    edited September 2018

    I don't think there is, or ever was, a banner for Latonya. Some people are reportedly getting a 10% banner today (thanks for purchasing in week 1),  but I didn't get it, so I don't know the details. It is not Latonya related.

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  • AtiAti Posts: 9,187

    I pulled the trigger on Latonya yesterday without any banner appearing. It was still a pretty good deal, even if I didn't get any free stuff to go along with it.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    barbult said:

    I don't think there is, or ever was, a banner for Latonya. Some people are reportedly getting a 10% banner today (thanks for purchasing in week 1),  but I didn't get it, so I don't know the details. It is not Latonya related.

    Huh.  Well I guess I'll go ahead and pull the trigger.   I got the pro bundle after all, but my end price is $107.71 because I wanted to buy some clothes that she could actually wear and not be embarrassed.  So I got the Groovy outfit, the Day Out outfit and textures for both. Plus added the Joo Joo Sneakers and the Ji Woo Denim boots.  Also as my 3 items for price break on the bundle, I got the Nail Bar, Onika, the HD addon, the Panthera textures then my 2 free bundles.  I'm spending way more now than I want to, but the discounted prices for those extra outfits, textures, and footwear, but they are worth it in the long run since tons of my characters will benefit down the line, not just Latonya.

    Well, I'm off to the races....er, the cart!

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,318
    edited September 2018

    btw there is a green banner up extra 10% off code so those haven't bought yet can use this too for extra discount if you have it and it has unlimited uses but you do miss out on the 2 free pro bundles but they were only one day only anyway 

     

    or maybe you haven't missed out on the free pro bundles that offer is still up though it may be connected to the new thorne male 8 boy unsure if this is another pro bundle just the promo promoting he's new is showing so far but unsure whether they extended the latonya deals or not

    Ah, but the green banner discount only applies tp Debut (and not to the still new) new releases; so it won't help with Laytonya Pro.

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  • PixelPiePixelPie Posts: 375
    edited September 2018

    My first test render of Latonya with the HD add-on applied.

    This Pro bundle was a great deal for me as I'm still collecting the Genesis 3 bundles and now that I have RiversoftArt's clothing converters it means I add more to my G8 wardrobes as well as G3. I also closely studied the clothing in bundle with a view to kitbashing, because I only rarely use outfits as they come out of the box, and decided that I will get good use out of them. I got a lot for my $ this morning.

    Awesome render! This sold me on getting the bundle + the HD addon.. (I've yet to get the HD for Zelara and now its $27 indecision) figured the free G3 bundles were worth it + this character is very realistic looking,  I really love it that she is curvy and not so thin looking, lots of possiblilities.  I was looking at the V7 bundle and really I like her better than the new V8 which was offered up discounted a few times lately and I passed.  Definitely going to put "RiversoftArt's clothing converters" on top of my wishlist - thanks for sharing/the tip

    sapat said:

     I still don't have a banner.  How will I get that extra percentage off if I don't?

    Has anyone gotten banners?  I've bought dang near every pro bundle clear back to beginning of pro bundles, so no banner??

    I keep hearing about banners, I haven't received any and I bought this and the Zelara Bundle.  What is the deal with banners??  After you buy so many you get a discount? - I am still a kind of a newbie here blush

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Rasberri said:

    My first test render of Latonya with the HD add-on applied.

    This Pro bundle was a great deal for me as I'm still collecting the Genesis 3 bundles and now that I have RiversoftArt's clothing converters it means I add more to my G8 wardrobes as well as G3. I also closely studied the clothing in bundle with a view to kitbashing, because I only rarely use outfits as they come out of the box, and decided that I will get good use out of them. I got a lot for my $ this morning.

     

    Awesome render! This sold me on getting the bundle + the HD addon.. (I've yet to get the HD for Zelara and now its $27 indecision) figured the free G3 bundles were worth it + this character is very realistic looking,  I really love it that she is curvy and not so thin looking, lots of possiblilities.  I was looking at the V7 bundle and really I like her better than the new V8 which was offered up discounted a few times lately and I passed.  Definitely going to put "RiversoftArt's clothing converters" on top of my wishlist - thanks for sharing/the tip

    sapat said:

     I still don't have a banner.  How will I get that extra percentage off if I don't?

    Has anyone gotten banners?  I've bought dang near every pro bundle clear back to beginning of pro bundles, so no banner??

    I keep hearing about banners, I haven't received any and I bought this and the Zelara Bundle.  What is the deal with banners??  After you buy so many you get a discount? - I am still a kind of a newbie here blush

    I get banners every time there is a new figure that's released that has different bundles.  My banner usually says something like 'thank you for being a loyal supporter of the Genesis 8 blah blah, so type in this code to get additional percentage off, or just outright you get an extra 10 or 20% off''  If you drink the kool-aid long enough here, they do reward you.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    xyer0 said:
     

    Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the Daz Core stable.

    While I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

     https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

    I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

    I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times.  What is the method?

    Thank you.

  • LindaBLindaB Posts: 193
    Cybersox said:
    5) As for the included HDs in pro-packages, they’ve only been a part of the releases of males. When we do get a male release, the number of male figures that come with a release is generally lower when compared to the female releases. As such, I think DAZ has added the HDs to those releases to balance the number of figures one gets with those packages. 

    Just thoughts.

    Jason 

    The Alexandra, Edie and Mabel Pro Bundles all came with the HD Add On free at the time of their release.  

     

    I susepct the Alexandra, Edie and Mabel pro bundles included the HD because they are older characters and require a lot more facial detail in order to look believable. That's been my assumption of why they're doing it. I could be wrong.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    LindaB said:
    Cybersox said:
    5) As for the included HDs in pro-packages, they’ve only been a part of the releases of males. When we do get a male release, the number of male figures that come with a release is generally lower when compared to the female releases. As such, I think DAZ has added the HDs to those releases to balance the number of figures one gets with those packages. 

    Just thoughts.

    Jason 

    The Alexandra, Edie and Mabel Pro Bundles all came with the HD Add On free at the time of their release.  

     

    I susepct the Alexandra, Edie and Mabel pro bundles included the HD because they are older characters and require a lot more facial detail in order to look believable. That's been my assumption of why they're doing it. I could be wrong.

    LOL, are you saying us old broads need more work to help us along? cheeky

  • MollytabbyMollytabby Posts: 1,163

    @Wonderland, @ALLIEKATBLUE, and @Rasberri thank you for the kind words. I'm really pleased with Latonya and the additional PA figures in the pack. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,424
    edited September 2018

    Have any of you installed Panthera Outfit Textures with Daz Connect (install from inside Daz Studio)? It is all corrupted and unusable for me. I submitted a help request, but I wondered if it is only me or a system wide problem.

    Post edited by barbult on
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