LATONYA 8

LindaB · September 2018

sapat said:

LindaB said:

Cybersox said:

JasonSWrench said:
5) As for the included HDs in pro-packages, they’ve only been a part of the releases of males. When we do get a male release, the number of male figures that come with a release is generally lower when compared to the female releases. As such, I think DAZ has added the HDs to those releases to balance the number of figures one gets with those packages.
Just thoughts.

Jason

The Alexandra, Edie and Mabel Pro Bundles all came with the HD Add On free at the time of their release.

I susepct the Alexandra, Edie and Mabel pro bundles included the HD because they are older characters and require a lot more facial detail in order to look believable. That's been my assumption of why they're doing it. I could be wrong.

LOL, are you saying us old broads need more work to help us along?

Myself included!

3Diva · September 2018

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

xyer0 said:

Divamakeup said:

PsychoNaut said:

Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the Daz Core stable.

While I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times. What is the method?

Thank you.

The method is just using the Altern8 presets. :) If you render Zelara 8 "out of the box" then note the render time, then apply Altern8 and then render again - you'll see reduced render time. The last time I tested it the Zelara 8 "out of the box" with no changes to her settings rendered in 34 minutes, after I applied Altern8 (I think it was Charlotte 8 "no maps" with a few other tweaks with the Altern8 settings) and then rendered - it rendered in 26 minutes. It was 8 minutes faster with Altern8 vs her default settings.

If you want the shader/materials preset I made for Zelara 8 send me screenshot of your purchase of Altern8 in your product library (that way I know you have the maps and stuff that you need for the shader to work properly) and I'll send you a link to the materials preset I made for her.

nattaruk · September 2018

barbult said:

Have any of you installed Panthera Outfit Textures with Daz Connect (install from inside Daz Studio)? It is all corrupted and unusable for me. I submitted a help request, but I wondered if it is only me or a system wide problem.

Same here. I will also submit a help request.

LosingSignal · September 2018

A few people have been comparing LaTonya to Bethany, and since I've been kind of waiting on a Bethany character (not as much as a Lilith or Arabella stand in, but hey, it's not October yet...), I thought I'd give it a try. Here's Bethany 7 at 100% and Genesis 8 Base with LaTonya Body at 100%, LaTonya Head at 50%, and Olympia Head at 50%. Same outfit, same hair, and same texture to minimize the difference to see how close they are. And... not bad! She could definitely be a stand in for ole' Beth, if one was needed.

barbult · September 2018

Amazingly close!

Stinger · September 2018

Latonya test render with a little fantasy makeup.

Dkgoose · September 2018

Divamakeup said:

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

xyer0 said:

Divamakeup said:

PsychoNaut said:
Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the DazWhile I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times. What is the method?

Thank you.

The method is just using the Altern8 presets. :) If you render Zelara 8 "out of the box" then note the render time, then apply Altern8 and then render again - you'll see reduced render time. The last time I tested it the Zelara 8 "out of the box" with no changes to her settings rendered in 34 minutes, after I applied Altern8 (I think it was Charlotte 8 "no maps" with a few other tweaks with the Altern8 settings) and then rendered - it rendered in 26 minutes. It was 8 minutes faster with Altern8 vs her default settings.

If you want the shader/materials preset I made for Zelara 8 send me screenshot of your purchase of Altern8 in your product library (that way I know you have the maps and stuff that you need for the shader to work properly) and I'll send you a link to the materials preset I made for her.

Please tell me you are releasing the new character settings as addons in the store :)

3Diva · September 2018

dkgoose said:

Divamakeup said:

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

xyer0 said:

Divamakeup said:

PsychoNaut said:
Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the DazWhile I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times. What is the method?

Thank you.

The method is just using the Altern8 presets. :) If you render Zelara 8 "out of the box" then note the render time, then apply Altern8 and then render again - you'll see reduced render time. The last time I tested it the Zelara 8 "out of the box" with no changes to her settings rendered in 34 minutes, after I applied Altern8 (I think it was Charlotte 8 "no maps" with a few other tweaks with the Altern8 settings) and then rendered - it rendered in 26 minutes. It was 8 minutes faster with Altern8 vs her default settings.

If you want the shader/materials preset I made for Zelara 8 send me screenshot of your purchase of Altern8 in your product library (that way I know you have the maps and stuff that you need for the shader to work properly) and I'll send you a link to the materials preset I made for her.

Please tell me you are releasing the new character settings as addons in the store :)

That's the plan, as long as Daz accepts them. :) There have been quite a few characters released over the past few months so I'm going to try and get an add-on out for many of the other "Official 8" characters. :)

Stinger · September 2018

LaHagred anyone?

EJWorks · September 2018

Monique 7, using FWSA Tisha HD textures. Latonya 8, using Shangrila textures (I was going to use her base material, but her eyebrows weren't showing up). Bethany 7, using her base material and makeup, but the nails are FWSA Camile. I was wanting a simple group shot to show they're friends.

ALLIEKATBLUE · September 2018

Stinger said:

LaHagred anyone?

yeah, no

ALLIEKATBLUE · September 2018

Here are some shots using altern8 shader. I hope Diva adds some more presets for black skin.

I must admit I prefer Latonya's original textures

Stinger · September 2018

ALLIEKATBLUE said:

I must admit I prefer Latonya's original textures

sapat · September 2018

Divamakeup said:

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

xyer0 said:

Divamakeup said:

PsychoNaut said:

Well, what, if anything, would you do to Zelara, Divamakeup? I, too, think Daz absolutely nailed the Iray implementation and details on Zelara. It was so surrealistically good and far beyond anything other than bluejaunte's variations on a skin (but I could not abide the eye bag marks for my purposes) that I had to change my main character's skin to Zelara's. I was hoping that Zelara was a new standard, but I suspect that her level of quality may show up once or twice more (at most) in the Daz Core stable.

While I think her default skin is awesome, I still prefer her skin with Altern8 and a few tweaks:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3858546/#Comment_3858546

I think Altern8 brings out more of the skin's details and it also reduces the render times vs her default skin settings.

I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times. What is the method?

Thank you.

The method is just using the Altern8 presets. :) If you render Zelara 8 "out of the box" then note the render time, then apply Altern8 and then render again - you'll see reduced render time. The last time I tested it the Zelara 8 "out of the box" with no changes to her settings rendered in 34 minutes, after I applied Altern8 (I think it was Charlotte 8 "no maps" with a few other tweaks with the Altern8 settings) and then rendered - it rendered in 26 minutes. It was 8 minutes faster with Altern8 vs her default settings.

If you want the shader/materials preset I made for Zelara 8 send me screenshot of your purchase of Altern8 in your product library (that way I know you have the maps and stuff that you need for the shader to work properly) and I'll send you a link to the materials preset I made for her.

Wow, thank you! I'll send it over the weekend!!

sapat · September 2018

Divamakeup said:

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

xyer0 said:

Divamakeup said:

PsychoNaut said:

I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times. What is the method?

Thank you.

The method is just using the Altern8 presets. :) If you render Zelara 8 "out of the box" then note the render time, then apply Altern8 and then render again - you'll see reduced render time. The last time I tested it the Zelara 8 "out of the box" with no changes to her settings rendered in 34 minutes, after I applied Altern8 (I think it was Charlotte 8 "no maps" with a few other tweaks with the Altern8 settings) and then rendered - it rendered in 26 minutes. It was 8 minutes faster with Altern8 vs her default settings.

If you want the shader/materials preset I made for Zelara 8 send me screenshot of your purchase of Altern8 in your product library (that way I know you have the maps and stuff that you need for the shader to work properly) and I'll send you a link to the materials preset I made for her.

I went to message you and there's a spot to add an image, but it's wanting a URL which I don't have. I thought I could just add the jpg screenshot I took and add it to the message. How can I get it to you? Can you help?

Thx

3Diva · September 2018

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

sapat said:

Divamakeup said:

xyer0 said:

Divamakeup said:

PsychoNaut said:

I own Altern8, and would like to know how you tweak the shaders to bring out details, and you say it also reduces render times. What is the method?

Thank you.

The method is just using the Altern8 presets. :) If you render Zelara 8 "out of the box" then note the render time, then apply Altern8 and then render again - you'll see reduced render time. The last time I tested it the Zelara 8 "out of the box" with no changes to her settings rendered in 34 minutes, after I applied Altern8 (I think it was Charlotte 8 "no maps" with a few other tweaks with the Altern8 settings) and then rendered - it rendered in 26 minutes. It was 8 minutes faster with Altern8 vs her default settings.

If you want the shader/materials preset I made for Zelara 8 send me screenshot of your purchase of Altern8 in your product library (that way I know you have the maps and stuff that you need for the shader to work properly) and I'll send you a link to the materials preset I made for her.

I went to message you and there's a spot to add an image, but it's wanting a URL which I don't have. I thought I could just add the jpg screenshot I took and add it to the message. How can I get it to you? Can you help?

Thx

I sent you a PM. :)

3Diva · September 2018

ALLIEKATBLUE said:

Here are some shots using altern8 shader. I hope Diva adds some more presets for black skin.

I did, did you not download the update?

3Diva · September 2018

ALLIEKATBLUE said:

Here are some shots using altern8 shader. I hope Diva adds some more presets for black skin.

I must admit I prefer Latonya's original textures

Altern8 comes with adjustment settings - a lot of them. :)

Things like the look of skin and what different people think looks best is highly subjective and subject to personal taste and preference. Personally, I think that the default Latonya 8 skin is good, but to me (and this is just my personal taste and opinion) her default settings are a bit too "red" and too shiny for my personal taste. :) I prefer her with Altern8 - she also renders faster (in my tests at least) with Altern8.

Here she is with her default skin settings. Render time 3 minutes and 49 seconds:

And here she is with Altern8 ("Olympia 8 A - No Maps" + "SSS Tint C"). Render time 2 minutes 46 seconds:

Personally, I prefer her with Altern8, but that's just my personal taste. If you like her with her default settings better that's 100% valid too. :D We're all subject to our own personal preferences and tastes. :) Humans come in such a wide variety of skin tones and skin types and there is no right or wrong way to like one look of skin over another look. :)

Mollytabby · September 2018

Thank you for the 'Latonya Recipe' @DivaMakeup, I'll try it out later

3Diva · September 2018

Mollytabby said:

Thank you for the 'Latonya Recipe' @DivaMakeup, I'll try it out later

You're welcome, I hope you find it helpful - it's just a "quick and dirty" formula as I haven't had the time to really dive into her settings, you can further customize her settings to your personal preferences of course. :) But, hopefully, that's a good starting off point for people who might want to play with adjusting her skin settings. :)

Mollytabby · September 2018

I always find your recipes helpful @DivaMakeup, I don't really know what I'm doing as far as skin is concerned . I need every little bit of help I can get!

I've done two renders with the Altern8 renders, the first using your lighting and the second using the new Luminosity Black lighting set on a twilight setting. Your light set definately renders a lot faster on my Mac. I rendered 'figure only' and created the backdrops in postwork.