It's official: centaurs, Greek chariots, and minotaurs are Medieval
Blind Owl
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When you're in marketing, words mean whatever you want them to mean.
Oh, well. On the bright side, I was pleasantly surprised to see a "Wide Leg Pants" outfit, instead of the usual abomination 'pant'. Thumbs up to the creators!
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A large percentage of the fantasy genre falls into what most people consider the Medieval time period, so as far as I'm concerned they are a fine addition to the sale. Plus, by including the fantasy items, it lets them add more stuff to the sale, which is always good in my book
Don't you know? Medieval starts in pre-history, and continues on until it starts bleeding into Pirate. Even then it stays a bit blurrily in there until you get to Steampunk and Western. Regency tried to end it, but just didn't have enough presence.
I always thought Medieval to mean the time between the end of the Dark Ages and the beginning of the Enlightenment period or the Renaissance.
Laurie
Centaurs can be medieval too.
It's even bigger than I thought. Yeah, the Prince Regent wasn't good for much.
...I was also amused to see that brooding skies are medieval. Here on Canada's Wet Coast, we often look outside and think "Wow! Pretty darn medieval today." (Not that I don't like the set; there's no shortage of azure skies with wispy cirrus clouds around here, so I'll probably pick it up some day.)
Looks like late Regency to me. That's actually pretty funny.
I’m partial to Stinz myself.
Aha! We have another Barrvarian in the forums!
In the song Amish Paradise, Weird Al Yankovic sings about getting medieval on your heinie.
EPIC !!!
When I get $135 worth of content for $32, they can use whatever marketing words they want. Call it the fuzzy bunny sale and I am still good with it.
What's really nice is that bunnies are medieval monsters. Just watch the historical movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail". Sadly, I don't have the money to take advantage of the sale.
I failed to see why the Minotaur bundle is medieval but they didn't offer all the snakes and reptile bundles for genesis 2.
Because minotaurs like centaurs are Greek. Greek is Medieval. Lizard people are just fantasy (or Egyptian, which is its own time period right before Medieval).
Uh, you are joking, aren't you?
Of course not, I'm completely serious. There was definitely a time when everyone on earth lived in Egypt. It was right after the Prehistoric period, when you had your Neanderthals and chainmail bikini cavegirls riding raptors.
Ah, gotcha...or is it vice-versa?
I was just riffing off of thistledown.
Greek = white pillars and anyone wearing a sheet. You can lump Roman in here as well.
Fantasy = Anyone wearing too little armor for the job and lots of gray stone buildings. This also counts as Medieval as long as there aren't any post industrial tech items.
Rennaisance = Tights, more of the same stone buildings but with large timbers. Men shouting, "Egads!" and "Hey Ho!," woman with a lot more clothes on.
Of course, all the above can be lumped into the Medieval category since "Medieval" = "old." Everyone knows that!
Of course, I have to agree that "Egyptian" is its own category which is pretty much the same as, togas with a lotta gold, mummies, big brown stone buildings and pillars, deserts, and generally tanned people. You can throw this under the "old" category if you like. But, everyone knows that this isn't exactly true since Egyptian also = Space Aliens. ;)
Because if they had categorized it properly as "Greek Mythology", there'd be a lot less to offer. How many Gorgons are there? One Minotaur in 6 parts, ruins which are technically out o date since they wouldn't actually be ruined at that point, a couple of labyrinths, and togas for everyone. Oh and beards so you can make Zeus and Poseidon and Ares to go with Medusa, Hera and Aphrodite. I think I saw a mechanical owl.
But, despite the adequacy and availability of a public school education, whatever the marketing department says is Medieval is Medieval.
Yeah, not really complaining...just poking a bit of fun. Daz shares a lot of historical license with Hollywood. That makes total sense, since what we are doing is creating exciting and fun images that more echo the various time periods than attempt to accurately portray history. I'm sure that many PAs do their best to make accurate costumes, as they see fit for their own and buyers' satisfaction. So that element exists. But more importantly, we are buying fantasy items, both old and modern. So, however Daz wants to wrap up their sales categories, is fine by me. :)
Hmmm...how about Pirate Centaurs Rescuing Ancient Egyptian Girls from the Mad Scientist Demon King Aboard his Steampunk Airship? Of course, there's a good chance that's been done already...
Don't forget ninjas... when there is pirates, there has to be ninjas, too.
Like... Minotaur Ninjas from Outer Space to fight all those nasty Pirate Centaurs... like they would RESCUE (!) maidens... hah! They are pirates! They don't rescue...
Well according to a recent thread on another forum, the Ancient Egypt setting of Assassin's Creed: Origins is also part of the Medieval era. So I can't wait to see the next Medieval era Star Wars movie!
The definition in Wiktionary of medieval is that it is relating to the period know as the Middle Ages, and Middle Ages is defined as "The period of primarily European history between the decline of the Western Roman Empire (antiquity) and the early modern period or the Renaissance; the time between c. 500 and 1500"
As such it includes the Dark Ages, but not the Roman period.
I thought most of us were middle aged?
Well, DAZ had an Egyptian sale last year and out of the 30+ items available only one was related to Egypt. I honestly stopped caring about the sale theme and just look at the products.
Three? Stheno, Euyale, Medusa I think?
Oh! You mean how many Gorgon figures/morphs! Sorry, had a college flashback there.
I've worked at Renaissance Faires since the late 1970s. Usually, the older faires at least attempt to create an environment from a specific period (Elizabethan, or maybe earlier Tudor). But any authentic historicity is wasted on an awful lot of customers, whom I regularly have heard referring to everything as 'medieval' or 'ancient' (it's a _renaissance_ faire, how hard can this be?), along with things like calling a pillory a 'stockade' (this is a relatively recent development, and it still shocks me when I hear it). It's one of the reasons that most renaissance faires nowadays are largely tacky affairs that think that performing recognizable modern pop songs while wearing a doublet is clever.
People are, by and large, ignoramuses. And usually proud of it. The anti-intellectualism in the US is shameful.
Real working class clothing from the real medieval period would probebly never sell at DAZ - to drab, too shabby, too not form-fitting, to equal for all people in the szene. And no cleavage for women – at all. Instead all, men and women, covering their hair, mostly day and night. And no fancy props, sleeping on straw, and keeping the same chemise on you that you did wear as undergarment during the day. And sitting on solid wooden benches at a solid wooden table, having no more tablewear than a pottery cup or a wooden bowl and a cutting knife. Small windows, because most people couldn't afford window glass and instead used thin, oiled leather, soot everywhere because simple huts had no chimneys, everything dark and dreary and low light ...