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Yeah, you’d think that the extended wet t-shirt contest that was the Georgian era would be a lot more popular here since it’s a historical period where form-fitting and even see-through clothing was _in_.
I hate seeing my favourite language misused and corrupted by carelessness, ignorance, and--let's face it--stupidity. When it's corrupted for marketing purposes, I think it amounts to a form of prostitution. Take the loathsome marketing neologism 'proactive,' which is supposed to mean something beyond merely active (yawn); or 'wellness,'' which is supposed to suggest something beyond mere health (how pedestrian). And the first time a clothing salesman offered a 'pant' for my consideration (so much tonier than mere pants), I'm afraid I was rather shorts with him.
Not to derail a good rant (I genuinely love me a good rant - anytime David Mitchell gets going I find myself laughing to the point of tears), but a quick search reveals that "proactive" has been in use since 1930 and that "wellness" has been in use since the 1650's. Not liking those two in particular seems like an extreme position to take.
Well, okay...hmm...but they were revived for marketing purposes, which makes them inexcusable. Howzat?
Sounds good to me.
Edit to add: I'm completely with you on pants v pant.
But....but....are you talking about 'pants' as in underwear or 'pants' as in trousers?
Maybe, at the end of it, we are all talking pants.
Talking pants indeed.
What I really need from you all though is support on my position that the author of the book I just read should be bonked on the head for consistently using "casted" instead of "cast" for the past-tense of performing a spell. If the book were set in the 15th or 16th Century I might put up with it, but not in a modern setting!
Make it author and editor and you'll have my support: go ahead and write an angry round-robin letter to send to the publisher. I'll gladly add my John Henry (hoho).
What I find horrifying--truly--is that Microsoft has become the de facto arbiter of the English language. Those sub-literate bozos once informed me, through MS Word's so-called style checker, that the word slut is a "Sexist term; Suggest prostitute instead."
For real? Because those words have the exact opposite connotation.
I kid you not. That would have been some time around 2002-2003, when I was working on that particular story, but I'm sure the level of literacy at Microsoft hasn't improved. Haven't fired up the so-called style checker since, and nearly put my foot through the monitor. Took a couple of beers to settle me down again.
And the fine old English word slut doesn't necessarily imply sexual promiscuity, although that has become its primary connotation these days.
I happen to be at work right now (obviously) so I tried it out in the current version of MS Word and it seems to be fine with sluts now.
There's a sentence I never thought to type before. Maybe there were complaints.
I don't know how selective the mods are around here, so I'll disguise certain words.
I agree with you on 'slut', just like the terms 'prostitute' and 'wh*re' don't necessarily have anything to do with sex either. You can wh*re yourself out for fame and money (especially these days with certain 'celebs') without having any sex involved in any way. Those words have simply become commonly associated with sex and sexual promiscuity by the masses. The level of MS's literacy has undoubtely decreased further, much like that of the internet as a whole.
I did a short stint at a medieval market here in Germany in the mid-80's. The people organizing that market had tight rules for what was allowed for the shopkeepers and crafters on the market - but of course not for the visitors. There were rules about what clothes were allowed for whom - rich trader could of course wear more expensive materials than a baker - and what was allowed to be produced and sold. The intent was to show as much real medieval craftmanship as possible... Leatherworks, needleworks, smithing among it. I think they still travel around Germany, with a market every weekend from Spring to Christmas, each week - or bi-weekly - in a different town/city.
Most important rule: the year is 1496. No potatoes or tomatoes allowed.
Another funny thing about those medieval faires and the "correct" display of clothes and stuff is, that "medieval" isn't set in stone... clothes weren't the same everywhere. And I don't mean Europe vs. China... even the different regions in Europe had different styles of clothing. So, that "no cleavage at all" isn't 100% correct. Clothes differed a lot even just between towns and the countryfolk. And it differed a lot between the nobles, the rich, the burghers, simple townsfolk and the poor..
Nonetheless most of the styles displayed in movies, TV, games and, yes, even here in the shop, are mostly pure fantasy. A good example is the TV series "Vikings". 90% of the clothes shown there were pure barbaric fantasy...
"Proactive" is not in contrast to "active", but to "reactive". When used properly, it refers to fixing things before they break, rather than responding to problems as they arise. It has, of course, had this meaning diluted as it became a corporate buzzword.
<comes off a stint of for-pay copyediting to feed Daz Habit> Yeah, 'active' and 'proactive' have entirely different usage scenarios.
It's definitely not unique to our era to come up with really weird ways of talking around things, though. Like 'crim con' ('criminal conversation', aka, legal proceedings related to adultery) being used as shorthand for talking about scandalous affairs. Because 'conversation' was 'sex', donchaknow.
It was really interesting to talk to some professional dictionary people and discover that they never, ever get upset at words 'being used wrong' or 'corrupted' or anything like that. They find that stuff fascinating. They take notes, so they can figure out when to update the dictionary definition.
our language has changed immensely over the centuries
grammar actually was a relatively recent invention, I think created by people who like to order their sock drawers and count their spoons but it did prove useful to me when trying to learn German.
My favourite example of this is the possibly apocryphal yarn about Sir Christopher Wren, architect of St. Paul's Cathedral, who was told by the King (or Queen; yarns vary, and the construction outlasted several monarchs) that his work was "amusing, awful and artificial". 300 years later, the description would have been "amazing, awe-inspiring and artistic".
1970? But it's retro-active to about 300BC.
Pants is pants...
"Pants" have "pant legs", not "pants legs".
Underwear is either known as "underpants" or "panties", and only "outer pants" are (is?) known simply as "pants".
And don't get me started on "Mid-eval", "Mid-evil", "Meddi-evil", or the like.
Renaissance fairs in some places mean "dress up like under-employed Goths/Pretend-Vampires/Emos, in all black with lots of silver, because yay Vampires". Then again, there's a reason tights and tunics went out of fashion.
But that Egyptian Centaurs vs Pirate Ninja Minotaurs from Space thing sounds totally legit.
pants came from pantaloons AFAIK anyway
Except for those parts of the world where pants are underpants and the top layer are trousers.
"pants are underpants and the top layer are trousers"
Hmmm. So let me see if I understand this correctly. Pants are underpants. Okay. But if they are underpants, then doesn't that mean that they are, like, under ... pants? And if pants are really underpants wouldn't that make trousers overpants? Or, wait, no, then they would be overunderpants, right? Um, but then that would make underpants underoverunderpants. Dang. OK, I think I've got it: Underoverpants and overunderpants. That should cover it, right? Now what the heck are "breeches"? Sounds medieval. I'm sorry, what were we talking about to begin with? (oops, ended my sentence with a preposition there. Is that a dangling preposition, or is that only for participles?) Time for my nap.
While this may be true where you live, that doesn't make it true everywhere. The meaning of words in the english language can vary depennding on the country or region. In North America pants generally means trousers, while in British usage it means underwear. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pants
"Pants" have "pant's legs"
Has somebody nicked the knickers? We have a knicker nicker at large? Perhaps it was one of those heavy breathing types. A panting pants and knicker nicker... :)
Could be. Security breeches are not uncommon on the Internet.
I heard that the knicker nicker was laughing as they ran off. A snickering knicker nicker if you will.
This discussion reminds me of the problems in my youth, learning english as a german on a german school, with a german teacher trained in Queen's English at Oxford and by american movies on TV shown in the original language with subtitles and the US version of the MAD Magazine.
The small things like colour/color, taxi/cab, lift/elevator, petrol/gas, first floor/second floor, pavement/sidewalk, bonnet/hood etc. etc. made learning english so much fun...
And nowadays, it gets just more funny each day. Like many people using words like "payed" as in "I have payed him a large amount of money", which is as wrong, as using "staid" as the past sense of stay.
Even more funny is the fact, that many people in countries with a different native language "import" anglicized words into it, like the fantastic word "Handy" in germany... it even makes a bit of sense, as a smartphone is really handy most of the time, alas it also can be a nuisance on others... It makes a lot more sense though than the people of the German Democratic Republic (commonly known as East-Germany) using the term "Broiler" (from "to broil") for a roast chicken, which in the western part of Germany is called Brathähnchen. So the people in the part of Germany, who had to learn russian as primary foreign language used and english term for something, that formerly had been just a Brathähnchen in all of Germany...
"After he jumped out of the window on the first floor, the knicker nicker snickered and waved for a yellow taxi, while he looked to both sides of the pavement for people following him. When he noticed a woman wearing a bonnet it made him jump right onto the street, where he ended up on the hood of the taxi coming to pick him up."