Get well soon props - Thermometer for the rest of the world?

isidornisidorn Posts: 1,601
edited August 2017 in The Commons

Today's new release, the Get Well Soon Props comes with two different thermometers, both with materials for two different temperatures - in Fahrenheit! How about some love for the rest of the world?

I'm also curious. Why does a body temperature thermometer has a scale that goes down to -20F? laugh

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  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,417
    edited August 2017

    We all know, America first, why should they aknowledge that there's a somehow still remarkably big rest of the world? wink

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,137

    ....the digital thermometer can be fixed fairly easily by just changing readout area to the proper celsius temperature and saving as a separate map.  For the old school one, that would be a little tougher.

  • NathNath Posts: 2,995

    I was going to comment on that as well laugh Clearly, great minds think alike.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,851

    maybe the vendor lives in the U.S.. I know if I was creating something similar I wouldn't think to use celsius or metric since I don't use it in everyday life.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited August 2017

    The UK uses metric, but you can still see imperial (what the US uses) quantiites on items use both; I was brought up with imperial for distance measurements, but prefer metric; base ten system makes a lot more sense to me.

    But with temperature, yeh, mainly centigrade. But growing up, warm is a pleasant 70F, but freezing was 0C. Now it's all Centigrade.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    I still use fahrenheit.   I have to convert centigrade in my head first to work out how hot it is outside.  I prefer fahrenheits,  you get more degrees for your money.   Let's see   16c  divide it by 5, multiply it by 9 add on 32,   ah, that's better, now I know how warm it is, not quite 61f so not all that warm up on this welsh mountain, but it sounds warmer than 16c

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Chohole said:

    I still use fahrenheit.   I have to convert centigrade in my head first to work out how hot it is outside.  I prefer fahrenheits,  you get more degrees for your money.   Let's see   16c  divide it by 5, multiply it by 9 add on 32,   ah, that's better, now I know how warm it is, not quite 61f so not all that warm up on this welsh mountain, but it sounds warmer than 16c

    Kelvin might be more appropriate for the Welsh mountains. cheeky 70K would be positively balmy.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,235
    edited August 2017
    isidorn said:

    ...

    I'm also curious. Why does a body temperature thermometer has a scale that goes down to -20F? laugh

    It's for lawyers, bank reposession managers, and one's ex.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    nicstt said:
    Chohole said:

    I still use fahrenheit.   I have to convert centigrade in my head first to work out how hot it is outside.  I prefer fahrenheits,  you get more degrees for your money.   Let's see   16c  divide it by 5, multiply it by 9 add on 32,   ah, that's better, now I know how warm it is, not quite 61f so not all that warm up on this welsh mountain, but it sounds warmer than 16c

    Kelvin might be more appropriate for the Welsh mountains. cheeky 70K would be positively balmy.

    It's not that bad,  We are "In the foothills of the Brecon Beacons" (to use the picturesqye location description) and at around 1200ft.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited August 2017
    Chohole said:

    I still use fahrenheit.   I have to convert centigrade in my head first to work out how hot it is outside.  I prefer fahrenheits,  you get more degrees for your money.   Let's see   16c  divide it by 5, multiply it by 9 add on 32,   ah, that's better, now I know how warm it is, not quite 61f so not all that warm up on this welsh mountain, but it sounds warmer than 16c

    I agree. In Farenheit, when you're looking at normal daily temperatures for example, 65F versus 75F is 10 degrees, and it's the difference between kinda cool and kinda warm.

    The equivalent Celsius is 18.33C to 23.89C, which is only 1/2 that range, or a little over 5 degrees C. All those decimals and rounding off gives me a headache.

    I mean, when someone in the UK asks the temperature, is the response "18.3 degrees C"? 

     

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  • nobody1954nobody1954 Posts: 933

    Farenheit temperatures are actually more precise than Celcius. There are 180 degrees between freezing and boiling in Farenheit.Only 100 in Celcius. As for the -20. It gets really cold here in the winter laugh.

  • Farenheit temperatures are actually more precise than Celcius. There are 180 degrees between freezing and boiling in Farenheit.Only 100 in Celcius. As for the -20. It gets really cold here in the winter laugh.

    If you use integer F and one decimal place C then it's 180 for F to 1,000 for C. Precision is a matter of choice.

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,682

    I wondered if the Centigrade people use Centigrade for medical thermometers. As nobody1954 says, Farenheit degrees are more precise. People measure fever temperatures in steps of 0.1 Farenheit, do they go to 2 decimal places for Centigrade? 

    I'm another one who has to convert Centigrade to real degrees to have an idea of what they mean. And when did Centigrade turn into Celsius? 

  • I think Celsius turned into Centigrade technically.  The scale was proposed by a dude named Anders Celsius (the idea of 100 degrees between freezing and boiling point of water).  Shortly after it was proposed to call it the Centigrade Scale, using the latin "centi" (as in centimeters, centigrams, centipoise, etc) because it was a scale of 100.  Both names work.

    Yes, thermometers for measuring human body temp use the centigrade scale in most of the world.  If you ask someone in the US what a normal human body temp reading is, I imagine you'd get 98.6F as an answer.  If you ask the same question of someone pretty much anywhere else the answer you'd get is 37C.  In my experience most home grade body temp thermometers show degrees C to 1 decimal place (e.g. 37.2, 37.3, etc).  That's plenty of resolution to figure out if you have a fever or not.

  • NathNath Posts: 2,995

    But why would I want to know whether I have a 38,54 degree fever, rather than a 38,52 one? Maybe they do use that amount of detail in hospitals, but here at least, in common parlance fever is expressed with one decimal place. And unless a thermometer has been properly calibrated, anything more than that is false precision I'd think.

    Afaik it has always been Celsius, but the 'centigrade' thing mostly only works in English anyway. And to me, Fahrenheit temperatures are essentially meaningless until I convert smiley.

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,682
    bailaowai said:

    ...  If you ask someone in the US what a normal human body temp reading is, I imagine you'd get 98.6F as an answer.  ...

     

    I always thought it was 98.4  Are Americans hotter or were we just cool over here in the 60s? 

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    Nath said:

    But why would I want to know whether I have a 38,54 degree fever, rather than a 38,52 one?

    Okay, that's another thing....

    The commas instead of periods for decimals. 

    Commas are for thousands, not decimals. If you see "38,54", how do you know it's not intended to be 38,540, and someone missed a zero? You write a check for $38,54 and the bank thinks you meant $38,540. 

    Dude, commas are dangerous. smiley

  • NathNath Posts: 2,995
    ebergerly said:
    Nath said:

    But why would I want to know whether I have a 38,54 degree fever, rather than a 38,52 one?

    Okay, that's another thing....

    The commas instead of periods for decimals. 

    Commas are for thousands, not decimals. If you see "38,54", how do you know it's not intended to be 38,540, and someone missed a zero? You write a check for $38,54 and the bank thinks you meant $38,540. 

    Dude, commas are dangerous. smiley

    Internationally, they are - and yes, posting in English I should have adjusted my decimal sign :-)

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,231
    ebergerly said:
    Nath said:

    But why would I want to know whether I have a 38,54 degree fever, rather than a 38,52 one?

    Okay, that's another thing....

    The commas instead of periods for decimals. 

    Commas are for thousands, not decimals. If you see "38,54", how do you know it's not intended to be 38,540, and someone missed a zero? You write a check for $38,54 and the bank thinks you meant $38,540. 

    Dude, commas are dangerous. smiley

    Well, every cheque I've ever written or seen has the amount written in words as well, so not that dangerous. wink

    -- Walt Sterdan

  • The countries that use a comma for decimals use a full-stop (or period) for thousands, or just spaces.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,235
    edited August 2017

    I belive that the US should use Centigrade and Meters instead of Farenheit and Feet but the rest of the world should use periods (.) for decimals and commas (,) for 3-digit groupings. cheeky  Can't we all just get along? surprise 

    And it's toe-MAY-toes, not toe-MAH-toes.  devil

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  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,634
    isidorn said:

    ...

    I'm also curious. Why does a body temperature thermometer has a scale that goes down to -20F? laugh

    It's for lawyers, bank reposession managers, and one's ex.

    You forgot politicians 

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I was actually going to do a render with a thermometer and a sick person so this set came in handy.

    Maclean has a thermometer in this set: https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-household-items

    It is one of the old-school kind. I'm not sure what system it uses, but you might check it out.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,634
    bailaowai said:

    ...  If you ask someone in the US what a normal human body temp reading is, I imagine you'd get 98.6F as an answer.  ...

     

    I always thought it was 98.4  Are Americans hotter or were we just cool over here in the 60s? 

    I was taught 98.4 in all my medical classes as being normal with a range of plus or minus 2

  • NathNath Posts: 2,995

    I was actually going to do a render with a thermometer and a sick person so this set came in handy.

    Maclean has a thermometer in this set: https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-household-items

    It is one of the old-school kind. I'm not sure what system it uses, but you might check it out.

    Looks like it's Celsius - standard household thermometer

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited August 2017
    wsterdan said:
    ebergerly said:
    Nath said:

    But why would I want to know whether I have a 38,54 degree fever, rather than a 38,52 one?

    Okay, that's another thing....

    The commas instead of periods for decimals. 

    Commas are for thousands, not decimals. If you see "38,54", how do you know it's not intended to be 38,540, and someone missed a zero? You write a check for $38,54 and the bank thinks you meant $38,540. 

    Dude, commas are dangerous. smiley

    Well, every cheque I've ever written or seen has the amount written in words as well, so not that dangerous. wink

    -- Walt Sterdan

    You still use cheques? I don't remember the last time I wrote or received one - several years ago probably. I was banking electronically in the UK before I emigrated and it is even slicker here in New Zealand. 

    As for temperature, it took me a while to adjust from F but once I did, C made much more sense. And, no, I never hear anyone say it is 18.34 degrees. 18 would do just fine.

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  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    marble said:

     18 would do just fine.

    Given that it's August, an occasional 23 or 25 would be nice. But no, the UK spends another week below 20. With frost in Scotland. In August.

  • macleanmaclean Posts: 2,438

    I was actually going to do a render with a thermometer and a sick person so this set came in handy.

    Maclean has a thermometer in this set: https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-household-items

    It is one of the old-school kind. I'm not sure what system it uses, but you might check it out.

    Yes, my 2 thermometers are in centigrade.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    marble said:

     18 would do just fine.

    Given that it's August, an occasional 23 or 25 would be nice. But no, the UK spends another week below 20. With frost in Scotland. In August.

    and Hail stones in Wales (in August)

  • ButchButch Posts: 800

    The easy way to remember celsius is -

    Stinking hot - over 40

    Bloody hot - 30 -40

    Nice day - 20-30

    Bloody cold - 15-20

    F******* freezing - below 15

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