New Pixologic software coming - Zbrush Core for entry level artists
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...so I wonder what it will cost (and if the Daz GoZ bridge will work with it)?
More affordable creative tools are always welcome.
Apparently Wacom let the cat somewhat out of the bag by announcing a new 3D Intuos tablet with Zbrush Core software for $200 (farther down in that thread about the software).
Laurie
...tablets are no good for me because of my arthritis which is why I had to give up drawing and painting.
Well, I just mentioned it because the tablet is probably 120 or 130 bucks alone. Hopefully Zbrush Core is a hundred bucks or less. I don't think Pixelogic would have made a separate announcement about it if you could ONLY get it if you bought a Wacom tablet.
Laurie
Interesting.
I tried Sculptris but turns out, I am not that good at sculpting : )
Will keep an eye on this one! : )
If Core isn't free, then I hope they end up doing a cheaper upgrade to the the full version is someone wishes to some time after getting Core
(I don't know the prices exactly, this is just for explination)
say zbrush-full is $500
core is $75
then hopefully they will have an upgrade core to full for $425 or something (even cheaper would be great but I doubt that because then everyone would just buy core, then the upgrade and get the full version cheaper than buying the full outright.
I think Zbrush full version is up to $800 dollars now :( One of the main reasons I got 3D Coat (got it during sale this summer for less than 300 dollars). I can't afford nearly a grand for one piece of software anymore *sigh*. Maybe if I quit buying Daz stuff for a few months. LOL.
Laurie
Hmmm... I'm pretty happy with 3D Coat but it certainly wouldn't hurt to have an extra set of tools available if the price for zCore isn't that high. Since it's bundled with a Wacom for $200 I can't imagine it being all that expensive.
I bought 4R2 at $700. Not a single day of regret, in spite of initial battles with seemingly illogical UI. ZBrushCore is supposedly drastically simplified for easier entry...so good news for beginners.
Every update since, 4R4, 4R5, 4R6, had been substantial and free of charge. 4R7 is so meaty, ZModeler is like a whole new software! Free!
Since ZModeler, ZBrush has stop being "just a sculpting tool". Check out the architectural visualization uses...
LOL. And then you may start mulling, hmmm now what I can make to sell...hmmm.
Yep.. $800 tool is an overkill for hobbyists, and 3Dcoat is good value. But ZBrush is a steal when you look at it as a pocket money making opportunity (and for those looking for CG studio jobs)
Daz store may look crowded and repetitious, but in a broader sence it has not even covered 5% of the range of products possible in the story telling universe!
I already have an Intuous pro but now I'm curious too with this absurdly good value sounding Wacom ZBrushCore package...
As to GoZ... It would be smart to make it work for ZBcore from the get go...
I think one of the smartest thing about Daz3D is "ZBrush synchronization". Not just with DS but also Carrara (I paid for Carrara GoZ unblinking)
Come to think of it - DS is 4.9, and Pixologic has said somewhere that 4R7 is the last iteration of ZBrush 4 before 5.0!
Anyway there're still so many skilled and talented ZBrushers that Daz3D has yet to "capitalize on" lol
Especially now that DS is entering into dynamic, animation focus pipeline, where more "standardized" modeling skills are called for?
I'm currently mulling on the details on an upgrade to DS-ZBrush GoZ (polygroup to surface/face/selectionsubset dialog option...applink-ish behavior...etc)
Now it probably make sense to have GoZcore, and GoZ X!
Oh, one minor correction: it's PixOlogic, not pixElogic...
(Pixol is actually a thing... a 2.5D thing...in the scheme of ZBrush CG speak)
Wait, what...."Especially now that DS is entering into dynamic, animation focus pipeline..." Is Daz moving more focus into Dynamics and Animation?
Seems that way, no?
In a space of a few months... How to miss the A word? lol
Keeping on topic...
Animation focus means more animation-friendly, well-optimized, proper-topology 3D ASSETS !
More dynamic plugins will be arriving, which means the vast potential of even more diverse, more demanding content types!
ZBrushCore, 3Dcoat, Blender...pick your fav modeling tool...for soon, there will be lower and lower cost hurdles, what really count will be one's talent!
But no doubt, compared to 3Dcoat or Maya/Max or Blender, ZBrushers do enjoy a more direct relationship with Daz Studio...
So yes, ZBrush is a good investment in one's time, for future Daz3D vendors or for pro studio employment.
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Oh, OK. Sorry to derail, still the same tools. I was thinking there was new beta/discussion about a future release tools or something. Back to the topic! Exciting news on the modeller if it budget freindly! With a bridge be awesome. I get aggravated at Hex sometimes these days, when I google a new feature that these more advanced modellers have. ;-)
It's the same tool, as in Pixologic's ZBrush the sculptor modeler tool.
Recent announcement: ZBrushCore, basically a "junior" version with (yet to be announced) student friendly pricing.
Like Maya "Lt" vs Maya "super duper" :)
...as I have Hexagon and got ot running pretty stable now, a good basic simpler to use sculpting tool at a more affordable price would be a nice addition to the toolbox., especially if there is a "sidegrade" deal to the full blown programme as one becomes more experienced..
Wow, that's a lot of new tutorial videos on Youtube!
I suppose this would be much better than Sculptris, although the pricing would have to be decent before I even consider it.
Also, sculpting is amazing for morphs.
I'm not much interested in morphs as such but would be interested if it did the sort of surface stuff that is done in zbrush. Be interesting to see either way.
was considering gettin zbrush for awhile now costs $795 US in my money that's $1200+ soooo if they're releasing a cheaper alternative soon might hold off since I don't have that much money left now and if this new one allows me to create my own monsters and other bit and pieces well no brainer there yet to look at the link just going by everyones comments here
ok read it and comments maybe new version of sculptris the free version of a sort of version of zbrush?
Sculptris is a program by Tomas Pettersson. It was acquired by Pixologic. Pettersson was with Pixologic from 2010 to 2014. I have seen no further development for it. It works in a different manner than ZBrush. For use with Daz models, there are things to be mindful of, but it's a very nice sculpting program.
Seems like an Adobe-like cloud licence. You will pay maybe a 200-300$ yearly licence or monthly (30-40) to use ZBrush but at the end it will cost more than a 800$ lifetime licence.
The Wacom Intuos 3D package page mentioned ZbrushCore as a downloadable. Pixologic has no past policy of cloud, not even for full version.
Wacom has known to bundle self-contained "light" version of Corel, Artrage, as well as Smithmicro's Anime Studio. Very smart strategy for both software hardware parties. The budding artists get a solid preview and usage familiarity before deciding if they wish to upgrade to the professional/ full fledge version.
I think one of my Photoshop Element came packaged with Wacom too. Served me well before my upgrade to CS.
Wacom has already officially announced this Wacom Intuos 3D + ZBrushCore more than a week ago.
To date it remains unclear what ZBrush features are/aren't included. My estimate based on Wacom package - IF the ZBrushCore is available as a standalone ZBrush LT, anywhere $99 to $129.
Considering that ZBrush is also a top modeler choice for pro 3D printing output....
3Dcoat LT (Steam) version was going for $99 I seem to recall. ZBrushCore priced lower than $149 is a steal.
I use Intuos for Daz Studio weight painting, works well too.
I think those mulling on getting serious with hard or soft modeling and Daz rigging should consider the Wacom Intuos 3D package.
Greetings,
Mild threadjack: Can you give me some more info on how you use the Intuos for DAZ stuff, including weightmap painting?
I have a Wacom tablet (my wife, amazing woman that she is, bought it for me for Christmas last year), and it's frickin' GORGEOUS and super-responsive, but it's not one of the ones that has a screen built-in (we're not that flush! ;) ) so I'm never sure...exactly where I am, and I feel like I'd mess things up if I tried to do anything in 3D with it...
I'd very much love to hear folks talk about how they use Wacom tablets with 3D tools, even if it's just for things like weight-map painting, etc... Maybe I'd learn a thing or two that'd help me.
-- Morgan
Normally one just needs to hover the pen over the tablet slightly and the cursor will show and move....
If you can get used to doing this, you can see where the cursor is without adding pressure and only touch the pen to the tablet when the cursor is where you want it ;).
As for screen tablets: I have my eye on one at Monoprice (their brand). Supposedly the third gen is getting REALLY good - good enough to rival Centiq. They cost between 600-700 dollars less as well. Next year I'm getting one ;).
Laurie
I haven't used a tablet for years. But at the time I got reasonably good at it.
Tablets use absolute positioning rather than the relative positioning of most mice. So you have to mentally map the tablet screen to the computer screen. It gets fairly easy with practice.
As a non-ZBrush user...could one rig in ZBrush and that comes over to DS? ...or do you still rig in DS?