"In Remembrance" sale...?
McGyver
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I really, really, really hope that I'm interpreting that wrong and it has nothing to do with what thousands of New Yorker's are at this moment solemnly remembering... I really hope this day kinda has more meaning to some people then to attach it's date and significance to a sale... It's not Arbor Day...
Just saying...
Think sometimes.
There are 2,996 people and their loved ones who might not appreciate the use of this date as a sales tag line.
If I'm wrong, I'm sorry... If the reference is correct... Way cheesier than words can express.
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I agree. At the very least it was a very poor choice of a title for a sale on today's date.
There was that mattress store that closed "indefinitely" over their increadibly poor taste commercial tying in with 9/11.
I'm no prude, I don't believe in "sacred ground" nonsense, but the mattress store commercial was offensive and over the line. The attacks are still very much an open wound in American culture. Retailers should be extremely cautious about references or tying ANYTHING to do with such a huge tragedy into a marketing campaign.
I'm with you 100% on the "no sacred ground" philosophy. Which is why I DON'T have a problem with this sale, neither as a customer, nor an American. While I also believe in sensitive timing, I also believe that there also has to be "move on" time at some point. However, this will ALWAYS be an open wound for many people, though, not even just Americans. Hell, just this morning I read a DA journal from this UK teenager who was born post 2001 who said they were "in tears over learning about such a tragedy".
I don't see why it would be in poor taste. It's not like the sale features explosions or buildings or airplanes or whatnot.
I mean, frankly, having sales on Labor day strikes me as in worse taste.
I hope you're wrong too. That I should honour the memory of all those people who died so horrifically by grabbing up to 75% off of thousands of Genesis 1 & 2 products is just plain insulting. Far more appropriate to suspend sales and shut the store for a day as a mark of respect, which Daz would never do. I'm not saying that they should either - they should just leave remembering to all of those who don't see those poor people and their families as a sales opportunity. I honestly can't think what else most people would be remembering together today though.
Would it have been better or worse for them to have a sale and not acknowledge today?
And yeah--a lot more people died horribly and are honored on what we call Memorial and Labor Day. But to most retailers those are just the beginning and end of summer sales.
I'm not a believer in sacred ground, but I know people who died that day and families whose lives were shattered... Using certain dates as a sale event is no better than a "Vicitims of DWI" sale... Or "Domestic Violence Day Extravaganza!"... I hate that I bring these things up... I hate being a whiny stick in the mud, I look at many of my posts and say "why the hell did I write that?"... Even this one I'm sure is not endearing me to anyone and most people don't really care... But the sale title... It's just... I don't know... Lame...
I hope it really is just misinterpretation, but the eagles kinda sums it up...
I really think I need to stop commenting here, stop reading the forums...
I think this anneversary will just end up like the others (Memorial Day, Labor Day, etc.) where the meaning has pretty much all been lost and is now simply a day of big sales, time off work, and bar-b-q's :(
Like many people, I was shaken by the attacks on 9/11.
I wondered who we were supposed to remember with this sale. I don't hold September 11 any more "holy" than any other date. I don't hold any date "holy!" I've never bothered with the significance of "holiday" sales. But if this is a "9/11" sale, it's a weird idea. Just doesn't make sense to me. I have no desire to be involved in a lengthy debate over this matter. I've said my peace, and will walk away.
I understand how certain sales can be upsetting to some people, but not to others. I became very upset with another site that was celebrating its new wild animal launch in a "Jungle Love" sale and was selling shotgun models in the same sale and as a person who has done artwork for two charities that are anti-poaching charities, and worked in the film biz on an anti-poaching film/TV project, I found this extremely upsetting, but others who claimed to be animal lovers didn't mind. It's easy to become very emotional over these types of things. Although I grew up in NYC and actually had a relative running from the rubble on 9/11, this sale didn't bother me, but I can see how someone can take these things to heart... They probably should have had two separate banners, one just honoring the day/victims and a separate one for the sale as just a Big Sunday sale or something or maybe not bring up 9/11 at all...
It is common to have sales for various memorial holidays. If they did mention sacred ground well it's not really is it? It's religious or more truthfully a nationlist advertisement. Now there are religious businesses and other businesses such as sellers of flags that are able to use such advertising effectively with people that are of the same religion or nationality but in this case it seems that being an 'American' is being equated with being religious about this event. In high school I lost an advertising competion at the state level after winning second place at the regional level and it was probably for using a religious theme in my ad because while there was no doubt the ad copy was the best in the competition but more mundane ad copy won. It was the product that needed to be featured and taking advantage of holiday event verbally or visually detracted from the product being sold. The product should be featured and it's merits is what is being sold.
I make it a habit now to avoid buying products that say they are 'donating' a portion of the proceeds of each sale to some charity too. It's really unseemly that they want to manipulate me as a customer into buying their products by trying to shame me into feeling selfish and uncaring if I don't buy their products. Wearing your heart on your sleeve for profit is a no-no.
DAZ could have had a 'Patriot's Day' sale just like there might be Memorial Day or Labor Day sales; but to imply the sale is "In Rememberance" is bit different and somewhat insensitive.
Not commenting on the presumed theme of the Daz Sale but I agree with your principle here.
What is even more bothersome is when a commercial entity like Hollywood tries to use nationalists sentiment to sell you a craptastic product like that Bloody awful "comedy" about Assassinating the North Korean leader.
To be honest, when I saw "In Remembrance," I thought it was referring to the pre-Genesis 3 figures and characters in the Mega Fast Grab... I didn't see any correlation to a tragic event 15 years ago.
I wish I still didn't.
People from outside of America might look at that tag line and read: "In Rememberance..." "Of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2."
Same here.
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I am okay with the sale personally with whatever connotation intended. It seems tasteful enough to me. I tend to not be easily offended.
I'm not offended. I'm grabbing some really nice G2 stuff for ridiculous prices. It's just that, after seeing this thread, memories of where I was and what I saw, (on tv, I wasn't there,) have come flooding back. Makes me want to cry all over again.
I agree because it also seems to me that September 11 is used as a selling point. I hope to be wrong because otherwise it would be tasteless.
I am not American but I know what happened on September 11th because the attacks were an international tragedy. Well...
I can't speak for most people, but I can tell you that you're not alone.
Freedom was attacked that day, and it remains to be seen whether freedom will be successfully defended by those who enjoy it. But for now, DAZ is free to hold an "In Remembrance" sale on September the 11th; and I fully support their freedom to do so. I shall exercise my freedom by not buying anything today, despite otherwise tempting opportunities. This free expression shall likely be extended...
As my fellow Britons in Scotland say so well: "get tae".
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I'm not American either, but the shock of that day really was felt around the world and it's not a day that's just going to slip from memory and stay slipped. I put a couple of things in my cart too, but the sight of 'September 11 Mega Fast Grab' in the browser tag left little doubt as to what I was supposed to be remembering and why I was being offered these prices. The feeling that I was being given the chance to gain a few dollars from one of the biggest and most heartbreaking atrocities of this century just left me feeling too uneasy, and so I cleared my cart. I haven't forgotten and I won't. I remember particularly the newspaper photos of people clinging to the building just below the flames, thousands of feet above the ground, all desperately hoping for help that would never come. I can't help feeling that welcoming a few cut-price G2 outfits into my runtime by way of remembrance would be short-changing the memory of them rather than honouring it. This sale is just not for me.
One of the reasons I don't support selling weapons or war machines of any kind here or anywhere else, real or digital. Killing, PERIOD, is just insane to me. As for the sale title... yea, I do believe in sacred ground and I do believe that whomever thought that one up should change it to something else. DAZ always has sales, like every day so why did that title have to be used at all?
I moved out of the US to live with my fiancee in Russia in 2002 so wasn't around for 9/11 but seen it on the news, I thought the ad was referring to older generations until i seen this thread, i seem to remember a mattress company trying a twin towers themed sales event, didn't go over to well for them, but of course, this isn't being seen on millions of tv screens either guess it just depends on the individual
I didn't immediately realise what they were referring to, thought it was about Gen 1 and Gen 2, then figured some would be offended.
The thing is, Daz has a sale every day, do they ignore it; not have a sale as a sign of respect, do what they did, or something else: no matter what I would expect someone to be offended. All a company can try and do is be subtle and tasteful, and hope everyone agrees that they are being.
The image is very unDaz-like, so I think they managed it.
Does everything have to be monetized?
I went back and checked. Yesterday's browser tag said, "September 10 Mega Fast Grab" and the day before it said, "September 9 Mega Fast Grab" and I'm pretty sure tomorrow's will say, "September 12 Mega Fast Grab" ... While it is possible, perhaps likely, the "In Remembrance" theme is due to the anniversary of 9/11, I suspect the wording in the browser tag, (the page "title,") had everything to do with the date of the sales event and nothing to do with the events happening on the same date 15 years ago.
+1
Incredibly poor taste, imho.
People died. That's never an excuse for a sale. Never.
Memorial Day has lots of sales.