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that's for sure and they will be .. but for more than $1200
with more cores they will have to lower the clock speed to avoid overheating ( bad choice ) or increase the power to 2 x 8 pins and create better air cooling ( not what planned ) bad choice in both directions , founder editions sucks in rendering anyway , I see not even a sense to release this card the way they did , a big waste of the name ...they should call it 1080ti and give the full chip to Titan XP
Looks like the latest Quadro will beat the new Titan X. News update:
http://techgage.com/article/siggraph-2016-a-look-at-nvidias-upcoming-pascal-gp102-quadros/
of course it beat it 24GB and more cudas , I was hoping it will be the new Titan X but sadly they cut it down .. maybe better it bother me less lol and to buy the 24GB for use with DS ? not really it would chock on the scene with this size anyway .
I've had vintage guitars that cost less,
and unlike computer HW guitars can actually increase in price as times goes on.
A Quadro could not be used in the same box as your Titans, as far as I am aware.
Couple of my friends do use them together , but you can't couple them together for the same task , you can use both for different display monitors in the same motherboard ,but not games or rendering together.
I would not even want it as I don't have a space my all 8 sloths are busy , what I can do with one little card like that not even have 4K cudas if I did then multiple and at last 2 to begin with .. for now my 12K Cudas is all I need and not even use it all everyday just for big tasks .. in the next 2-3 years we will have better stuff and then I will be ready for big upgrade again
for cards like that you need proper app and PC to handle all the data if you want to use it with PC .. as it would be really monster rig . and if I load 40 million poly DS Open GL will hang on me and shut down before I switch the viewport to iray .. it barely handle 17 millions poly at once ( iray handle it better btw and no problem with camera rotation once it is loaded to the cards ) but to get there the process is not quick for that reason 24GB is not what you need for now .
Got a question to submit, i'm currently running x3 Titans 6gb (old gen ^^), i was waiting impatiently the Pascal gen to replace 2 of my current Titan but i'm wondering what is the best deal 2 1080 ? Or 2 Titan X (Pascal) ? Money is not a problem as i have anticipated the cost. I'm afraid (wrongly ?) about the 8Gb of Vram of the 1080 wasn't enough for scenes i'm doing.
I'm looking for some fresh blood as my current cards are not able to render more than 2 characters, i just have to add a 3rd characters to crash DS :) & yes i haven't yet searched a way to render multiple chars in Iray :(.
EDIT: i've noticed on the Nvidia's website that the CUDA toolkit 8.0 is already available for download is that mean that Iray will support very soon the new architecture (if it's not already the case) ?
...see below.
...that's all fine but again what does it do for rendering?
...sadly that leaves people like myself out in the cold having to pay a higher price for either generation. Sometimes, I really really hate the tech curve.
...+1.
I'm thinking of just giving up in Iray altogether myself.
..I would have thought at least the Quadros would get HBM memory.
Nearly $4000 more expensive; I'd sure as hell hope it was better for something. Other than enriching Nvidia ofc.
Cycles (Blender) is starting to get AMD support; still some features to impliment, and about five years behind Nvidia. I waited three years for them to solve it, then gave up and bought from the green team.
Soon, and hopefully not Daz-soon.
If the money is no issue of course go for 2 x Titan X Pascal, you will have more freedom , I paid last year the same price for Titan X
iray need to be upgraded to support new architecture , and not just driver or tool kit so you have to wait a little longer
Alright now i know where i will go.
A little longer ? Octane support already (in part) the new architecture, i'm almost sure before the end of the summer Octane will support in it integrality before the end of summer, why Daz/Iray would be more longer ?
I guess it comes down to company practice:
- Otoy does not mind releasing OctaneRender test versions with support for new technology like Pascal in alpha state so customers can get a first impression how this will work.
Custumers understand and agree that there might be some issues by using this versions but in the end people are happy because they have early access. In addition some errors are detected and resolved quicker because a larger test audience is participating. The risk is that some custumers judge the product by the unfinished state and draw early conclusions.
Otoy will make announcements what they plan to do in the next two years.
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- Nvidia seems to prefer the more guarded approach. First they make sure that everything works inhouse and only when they are comfortable with the results they share it with the outside.
In general Nvidia has the tendency not to share specific plans but actually keep developments as secret as possible.
Nvidia makes announcements what they have been working on in the last months and then release the good news when products are ready to buy and use.
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Both of those ways of dealing with things have their positive and negative side effects.
Did you see the AMD announcement regarding open sourcing the FireRender engine and other graphics software libraries? Wow! nVidia will now have competition with iRay!
Clearly HBM production is just not there yet. Neither Nvidia nor AMD have shown a card with the latest HBM on board.
Little longer can be tomorrow, next week or next month , it all depends of DAZ and they did not released any statement about it yet
Octane programmers have more job to do to make Pascal working , Iray engine is delivered ready by Nvidia and not need huge internal programing from DAZ to run Pascal it is all ready .
You should ask the question in DAZ Studio software forum as only DAZ can give you the correct answer when iray 2016.2 will we available in Daz Studio .. I wish I know
They already released it and the job is done.. iray2016.2 .. now time for all programs that support iray to upgrade the engine , forgot one thing ..since the new iray build have new cameras, DAZ may working on the new function so it may take extra time for coding and testing before releasing next beta build with Pascal support ..as the build has more new updates than just support for the new cards.
and daz may save stretch out the new iray update release so they can include other new features for their program too
I'd be hard pressed to buy a computer for $1200
You missed the announcement that AMD is open sourcing their FireRender, now ProRender engine and while they are still charging a lot for their video cards, the prices I'm seeing on Amazon are about on par for what they were charging in the early 2000s, not that that those were not expensive but they are not the ridiculous nVidia prices.
And this winter they are supposed to have a video card that makes a huge step forward.
Hopefully this means Pascal support for Iray is coming soon. Seems like a card like this has doesn't have too many gamers buying them and more for rendering use.
Nvidia's site still says 1.5 GHz and claims a 60% performance increase over a Maxwell Titan X. Why are some of you saying it's not that much over a Maxwell Titan X? Counting against over clocked Maxwells?
I dunno, I've been in IT for like 20 years. Gaming cards have always been expensive, and workstation cards even more expensive. Competitors have priced their cards closely with each other based on their performance.
Isn't gonna change.
And I've been in IT for 25 years, lol, and AMD cards are going for 1/2 to 1/4 the price of nVidia cards and Intels' 3D graphics HW capabilities aren't exactly standing still. If these businesses are going to earn money via the masses such as they claim then the best tech has to become commoditized and a $1500 video card is not a commodity. Intel and AMD HW is much closer to being commotities the nVidia HW. Just in the last 5 years I've watched Unity Pro features go free and high-end HW graphics features be included in a $50 Android tablets.
Gamers and early-adaptor Apple types willingly overpay but most homes have indoor plumbing and electricity now. I am confident, HW & SW that is affordably priced as entry level HW will become availble in the next 5 years that will blow away the current nVidia high-end offerings, lol, at least if you use marketing speak as your primary lingo.
This is for games so 60% better perfomance in games than stock Titan X , you have different versions of Titan X with different bios that run the clock at different speed , my Titan X can run easy at 1500Mhz the same as Pascal Titan X but becouse you have little more cores it will be maybe 15-20% faster than my Titan X that is faster as stock 1080 .. Pascal Titan X is only 24% faster in games than 1080 ..the math is simple
unless there are a real official iray benchmarks using Pascal cards ( may be less than in 2 weeks ) you will have the chance to see the true perfomance of all stock cards and decide what is the best for the money . Still getting 2 x1080 is better for the money than simple stock Pascal Titan X , same price but 2x1080 will give you 70% extra perfomance for free than just 1 Pascal Titan X