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Question for vendors: what Daz figure's products sell better these days?

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    With Genesis 1&2, I can have humanoid cats, bulls, various serpents and reptilian creatures, demons, various aquatic creatures, things with hooves, horns, tails, wings, multiple arms, eyes, robotic bits, and more.

    I have aging and youth morphs, plus the core morph bundles, ethnic bundles, skin packs, skin builder/overlay, etc.

    All told, that's probably a buy-in of several hundred dollars or more, assuming anyone actually gets around to making any of it for Genesis3.

     

     

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,574
    timmins.william said:

    With Genesis 1&2, I can have humanoid cats, bulls, various serpents and reptilian creatures, demons, various aquatic creatures, things with hooves, horns, tails, wings, multiple arms, eyes, robotic bits, and more.

    I have aging and youth morphs, plus the core morph bundles, ethnic bundles, skin packs, skin builder/overlay, etc.

    All told, that's probably a buy-in of several hundred dollars or more, assuming anyone actually gets around to making any of it for Genesis3.

     

     

    For creatures, clearly G3 is a long way off Genesis 2 (although RawArt has added a fair few G3 creatures). However, I assume the extra realism of Genesis 3 is of less importance for non-humans anyway.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,353

    Added my 2 cents, here's 2 more.  I was pretty tempted recently to pick up the G3 characters. but...

    wolf359: Like you, I'm a dial-spinner.  I buy characters for their skin and create my own morphs.  I love that flexibility.  With G2's asymmetrical morphs, I can make them more realistic.  Genesis still looks pretty good and many of my characters are Genesis.  I found that starting from M5/V5 made some very nice characters after all.  I'm this way with technology: I don't scream in ecstasy and stand in line for 2 days every time a new iPhone comes out, so why should I trash my perfectly usable Genesis characters?  Besides, I waited a year before starting to purchase G2 - because it took that long for the PA's to create all the utilities I wanted.  If I want a contortionist, I'll use G2, or maybe the G3 starter essentials characters with something I pick up cheap or free (like Linsey).

    tl155180: Dial-spinning is how I create my own faerie characters.  They don't look like human actors with ear prosthetics - their face shape is different and their eyes are large and slanted.  I have something in mind and I create it myself. 

    Havos: I, too, was pretty disappointed to find that there are no bundle morphs for G3.  I was ready to buy that only, because honestly, I don't use Michael or Victoria skins - I always change them out.  However, to my dismay, I found that G3 had only one third the body morphs available to G2.  That's a deal-killer for me.  I would have to wait for a third party to create the body morphs and frankly, I don't want to spend the money. 

    timmins.william:  Yep, I'll wait for Genesis 4 - provided their is a significant improvement over Genesis 2. 

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,574
    dracorn said:

    Added my 2 cents, here's 2 more.  I was pretty tempted recently to pick up the G3 characters. but...

    wolf359: Like you, I'm a dial-spinner.  I buy characters for their skin and create my own morphs.  I love that flexibility.  With G2's asymmetrical morphs, I can make them more realistic.  Genesis still looks pretty good and many of my characters are Genesis.  I found that starting from M5/V5 made some very nice characters after all.  I'm this way with technology: I don't scream in ecstasy and stand in line for 2 days every time a new iPhone comes out, so why should I trash my perfectly usable Genesis characters?  Besides, I waited a year before starting to purchase G2 - because it took that long for the PA's to create all the utilities I wanted.  If I want a contortionist, I'll use G2, or maybe the G3 starter essentials characters with something I pick up cheap or free (like Linsey).

    tl155180: Dial-spinning is how I create my own faerie characters.  They don't look like human actors with ear prosthetics - their face shape is different and their eyes are large and slanted.  I have something in mind and I create it myself. 

    Havos: I, too, was pretty disappointed to find that there are no bundle morphs for G3.  I was ready to buy that only, because honestly, I don't use Michael or Victoria skins - I always change them out.  However, to my dismay, I found that G3 had only one third the body morphs available to G2.  That's a deal-killer for me.  I would have to wait for a third party to create the body morphs and frankly, I don't want to spend the money. 

    timmins.william:  Yep, I'll wait for Genesis 4 - provided their is a significant improvement over Genesis 2. 

    Interesting, I confess I had not spotted the difference in the number of morphs in the base packs comparing Genesis 2 and 3. For body morphs they are near identical, but for head morphs, it is as you say, a lot more for Genesis 2. Also odd that there are no asymmetric morphs in the Genesis 3 set, nor are there any in the add on resource kits supplied by Thorne. More reason to want Generation X for genesis 3, I think.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Genesis 3 doesn't need asymetrical morphs really because of all the extra facial bones.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,574
    Fisty said:

    Genesis 3 doesn't need asymetrical morphs really because of all the extra facial bones.

    I thought the bones where for expressions, not morphs. So someone with an asymetrical face (eg one eye is slightly higher), I would have thought this was better done with morphs, that way the asymmetry is maintained after applying an expression.

  • tl155180tl155180 Posts: 994
    dracorn said:
    tl155180: Dial-spinning is how I create my own faerie characters.  They don't look like human actors with ear prosthetics - their face shape is different and their eyes are large and slanted.  I have something in mind and I create it myself. 
     

    I do try that because I have Thorne's head and body morph packages for G3F, but they never come out as good as the pre-made characters because no matter how much you fiddle with the dials they will never achieve the same perfect results as a hand-crafted character model with its own purpose built morphs and textures. They'll always look a tiny bit off. For example, the eye dials stretch the eyelids too much and make them look a bit disconnected from the eyeball. What can I say? I'm a perfectionist.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,448
    Havos said:
    Fisty said:

    Genesis 3 doesn't need asymetrical morphs really because of all the extra facial bones.

    I thought the bones where for expressions, not morphs. So someone with an asymetrical face (eg one eye is slightly higher), I would have thought this was better done with morphs, that way the asymmetry is maintained after applying an expression.

    As long as you're doing them for your own use, you can resave morphs as morph assets after you play with the face bones to do asymmetry.  For distribution or sale, you'd have to export and bring in with MLP using reverse deformation.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    Havos said:

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    There's such a thing as a G2F for G3F UV? surprise

    Personally, I haven't bought half as much in the past couple of months than I bought before. Yes, I do buy the occasional G3 item, or male character, but... I haven't even bought all the base figures for G3. I like the bending and all, it's just that that entire generation looks... too artificial, way too botoxed. That's also going for the HD morphed ones, which would've usually brought the needed details. For my purposes, they are not what I am looking for in characters. That doesn't mean that they are badly made, just not what I am looking for.

    In consequence, this means that I am spending significantly less here in general at the moment.

     

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,574
    BeeMKay said:
    Havos said:

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    There's such a thing as a G2F for G3F UV? surprise

    There is, go over to renderosity and search for vendor Cayman Studios. It is not quite as convienent as the alternate UV sets you get from products here, in so much that it uses geografts to get the round the problem that the edge loops for Genesis 3 are in significantly different locations than for Genesis 1/2/M4/V4. This means there are a couple more clicks involved to get them loaded, but once set up they work well, with no visible seamlines.

  • tl155180tl155180 Posts: 994
    Havos said:
    BeeMKay said:
    Havos said:

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    There's such a thing as a G2F for G3F UV? surprise

    There is, go over to renderosity and search for vendor Cayman Studios. It is not quite as convienent as the alternate UV sets you get from products here, in so much that it uses geografts to get the round the problem that the edge loops for Genesis 3 are in significantly different locations than for Genesis 1/2/M4/V4. This means there are a couple more clicks involved to get them loaded, but once set up they work well, with no visible seamlines.

    That sounds great! Is there also a product to migrate character shaping from G2F to G3F aswell?

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,574
    tl155180 said:
    Havos said:
    BeeMKay said:
    Havos said:

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    There's such a thing as a G2F for G3F UV? surprise

    There is, go over to renderosity and search for vendor Cayman Studios. It is not quite as convienent as the alternate UV sets you get from products here, in so much that it uses geografts to get the round the problem that the edge loops for Genesis 3 are in significantly different locations than for Genesis 1/2/M4/V4. This means there are a couple more clicks involved to get them loaded, but once set up they work well, with no visible seamlines.

    That sounds great! Is there also a product to migrate character shaping from G2F to G3F aswell?

    Not automatically no, at least not yet. Many of us are waiting for Generation X to get an update for Genesis 3 so this will be possible, but we do not even have an ETA for when (or if) this will appear. In the meantime it is possible to use the transfer utility to move morphs across from G2F but this is more difficult, and the results are mixed. Body morphs transfer over reasonably well, but with head morphs there often issues, particularly with the eyes. Hopefully Generation X will help with these.

  • DAZ_Steve_2154153DAZ_Steve_2154153 Posts: 565
    Havos said:

    I fully appreciate that everyone has different reason for sticking with Genesis 2, but Genesis 3, in my opinion, does not have that big an entrance price in order to make it a useful addition to your character pool. In my mind, the only must haves, are the Head and Body morphs, and the expression pack. These are 20$ each, and there is no bundle, so with G3M and G3F together that adds up to a hefty $120. However if you are in the PC club, and buy during a 60% off sale they are much cheaper. Using PC coupons I think I picked up all 6 for around $20 dollars in total, so that it a very reasonable entry price.

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    Okay, so how about I help you a bit with your sticker shock :)

    For the rest of the day today and tomorrow, if you buy any Newly Mad or Still Mad item (along with any of the stuff listed below) and use the coupon code: TRYING-G3 you'll get 90% off of the following items (Oh, and if you're PC+, this will stack with your PC+ discount.  Want one better?  Let's make the coupon code WANNA-B-PLAT give you 30% off of a PC+ annual membership too!)(If you do all the math and find all of the loopholes today, there are some CRAZY savings to be had with this deal)

    Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7

    Genesis 3 female head morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-head-morphs

    Genesis 3 female body morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-body-morphs

    Feel it! Mix and Match Expressions for Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/feel-it-mix-and-match-expressions-for-victoria-7

    Victoria 7 expression set http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-expression-set

     

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

    From a customer standpoint, I like to build character "dna", so anything that will contribute, I'll get.  Character packs with unique features, yes.  Pretty girls with a bunch of make-up options, nope - got plenty of those and know how to make my own or kit bash the stuff I already bought.  Same goes for texture packs for hair and clothes.  I buy clothes that add something new (shape, morphs) to my runtime.  Things I can mix & match. I really like when garments have a Wear-Over kind of morph.  I support characters that have lots of products available.  e.g. I like the Anastasia GND morph for Alyson2 (a Poser character if you're not familiar with her)  but there really isn't much support for her, so I tend to buy stuff for my DAZ characters.  And I'm a sucker for falling in love with a character.  I still haven't gotten over Michael 5 yet - he's my go-to male.  And I caved in on Aiko 6 because of one her add-on characters from a PA.

  • tl155180tl155180 Posts: 994
    DAZ_Steve said:
    Havos said:

    I fully appreciate that everyone has different reason for sticking with Genesis 2, but Genesis 3, in my opinion, does not have that big an entrance price in order to make it a useful addition to your character pool. In my mind, the only must haves, are the Head and Body morphs, and the expression pack. These are 20$ each, and there is no bundle, so with G3M and G3F together that adds up to a hefty $120. However if you are in the PC club, and buy during a 60% off sale they are much cheaper. Using PC coupons I think I picked up all 6 for around $20 dollars in total, so that it a very reasonable entry price.

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    Okay, so how about I help you a bit with your sticker shock :)

    For the rest of the day today and tomorrow, if you buy any Newly Mad or Still Mad item (along with any of the stuff listed below) and use the coupon code: TRYING-G3 you'll get 90% off of the following items (Oh, and if you're PC+, this will stack with your PC+ discount.  Want one better?  Let's make the coupon code WANNA-B-PLAT give you 30% off of a PC+ annual membership too!)(If you do all the math and find all of the loopholes today, there are some CRAZY savings to be had with this deal)

    Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7

    Genesis 3 female head morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-head-morphs

    Genesis 3 female body morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-body-morphs

    Feel it! Mix and Match Expressions for Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/feel-it-mix-and-match-expressions-for-victoria-7

    Victoria 7 expression set http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-expression-set

     

    Dayum son! Those are some pretty awesome deals!! If I didn't already have all but one of those items then I'd be jumping all over dat! wink Kinda regretting buying them at the wrong time now, lol

    30% off annual PC+ membership.... trying... to... resist.... GAH!!! You got me!

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    The lack of compatablility on the skins is the deal killer for me for Genesis 3. Clothing, thanks to autofit, I can work with.  Morphs - I'm fine with spinning dials - But skin textures... I don't have the resources to invest in a new library of skins, or even, at the moment, the UV converters.  (Not to mention the number of characters for G3M seems to be even more sparse than the ones for G2M ... but there are no G2M to G3M skin converters out there yet.)  Which is too bad, because I like Genesis 3, but they showed up at a time when I don't have the resources to invest in starting over (especially since Genesis 4 will probably be arriving in about a year and a half at this point) and I just feel that continuing to invest in Genesis/Genesis 2 is the better use of my money at this time.

    That said, the vendor's attentions being on Genesis 3 means that I can work my way through my backlog of Genesis 2 stuff without a ton of "more stuff I can't afford to get right now" showing up in the store.  :) 

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

     

    DAZ_Steve said:
    Havos said:

    I fully appreciate that everyone has different reason for sticking with Genesis 2, but Genesis 3, in my opinion, does not have that big an entrance price in order to make it a useful addition to your character pool. In my mind, the only must haves, are the Head and Body morphs, and the expression pack. These are 20$ each, and there is no bundle, so with G3M and G3F together that adds up to a hefty $120. However if you are in the PC club, and buy during a 60% off sale they are much cheaper. Using PC coupons I think I picked up all 6 for around $20 dollars in total, so that it a very reasonable entry price.

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    Okay, so how about I help you a bit with your sticker shock :)

    For the rest of the day today and tomorrow, if you buy any Newly Mad or Still Mad item (along with any of the stuff listed below) and use the coupon code: TRYING-G3 you'll get 90% off of the following items (Oh, and if you're PC+, this will stack with your PC+ discount.  Want one better?  Let's make the coupon code WANNA-B-PLAT give you 30% off of a PC+ annual membership too!)(If you do all the math and find all of the loopholes today, there are some CRAZY savings to be had with this deal)

    Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7

    Genesis 3 female head morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-head-morphs

    Genesis 3 female body morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-body-morphs

    Feel it! Mix and Match Expressions for Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/feel-it-mix-and-match-expressions-for-victoria-7

    Victoria 7 expression set http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-expression-set

     

    And you HAD to bring this up now? REALLY??  When I doing so good on the temptation front.... bad DAZ_Steve, bad... must resist temptation... but i don't have some of these... must resist... RESISTENCE IS FUTILE... YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED...

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    edited March 2016

    For the most part I agree with the consensus here, with the exception that my G2/G3 clones for Genesis have done about as well as my templates for Genesis 3 (I am now planning to do templates for G1 and G2 as well).  Some customers don't upgrade (as they've noted in this thread), and conversion facilitators never go out of style.  I don't need everybody in our market to buy every product, just a significant minority, and the minority of G1/G2 users that buy conversion utilities has turned out to be bigger than I originally assumed, so I'll probably always facilitate conversion in between doing products for the newest figures.

     

    And Fisty is very correct.  G3 is a BEAR to rig for compared to G2.

    Post edited by SickleYield on
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,714
    sandman_max said:

     

    DAZ_Steve said:
    Havos said:

    I fully appreciate that everyone has different reason for sticking with Genesis 2, but Genesis 3, in my opinion, does not have that big an entrance price in order to make it a useful addition to your character pool. In my mind, the only must haves, are the Head and Body morphs, and the expression pack. These are 20$ each, and there is no bundle, so with G3M and G3F together that adds up to a hefty $120. However if you are in the PC club, and buy during a 60% off sale they are much cheaper. Using PC coupons I think I picked up all 6 for around $20 dollars in total, so that it a very reasonable entry price.

    To use Genesis 3 to represent younger characters you will need Zev0s Growing Up stuff, and for the older generation, the aging morphs (although these are not available yet). Other than that, spending $10-15 over at Rendo to get the G2F UV set for G3F, and you should be able to create a diverse range of Genesis 3 characters all wearing G2F/G2M (or older generations) clothing and hair. 

    Naturally if we ever get Generation X for Genesis 3, then that would make the newest generation even more flexible.

    Okay, so how about I help you a bit with your sticker shock :)

    For the rest of the day today and tomorrow, if you buy any Newly Mad or Still Mad item (along with any of the stuff listed below) and use the coupon code: TRYING-G3 you'll get 90% off of the following items (Oh, and if you're PC+, this will stack with your PC+ discount.  Want one better?  Let's make the coupon code WANNA-B-PLAT give you 30% off of a PC+ annual membership too!)(If you do all the math and find all of the loopholes today, there are some CRAZY savings to be had with this deal)

    Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7

    Genesis 3 female head morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-head-morphs

    Genesis 3 female body morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-body-morphs

    Feel it! Mix and Match Expressions for Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/feel-it-mix-and-match-expressions-for-victoria-7

    Victoria 7 expression set http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-expression-set

     

    And you HAD to bring this up now? REALLY??  When I doing so good on the temptation front.... bad DAZ_Steve, bad... must resist temptation... but i don't have some of these... must resist... RESISTENCE IS FUTILE... YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED...

    LOL, those coupons didn't work for my shopping cart full of keymate, graphmate, castles and diners that i've been keeping patiently waiting for the Zev0 Growing Up Skin Resource to be released...but it is interesting to see what sells in this thread with regards to new products.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    I'm still solidly pre-G3, but that's awfully tempting and cool for those more on the edge. ;)

    Good show, Daz Steve!

     

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    nonesuch00 said:
    sandman_max said:

     

    DAZ_Steve said:

    Okay, so how about I help you a bit with your sticker shock :)

    For the rest of the day today and tomorrow, if you buy any Newly Mad or Still Mad item (along with any of the stuff listed below) and use the coupon code: TRYING-G3 you'll get 90% off of the following items (Oh, and if you're PC+, this will stack with your PC+ discount.  Want one better?  Let's make the coupon code WANNA-B-PLAT give you 30% off of a PC+ annual membership too!)(If you do all the math and find all of the loopholes today, there are some CRAZY savings to be had with this deal)

    Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7

    Genesis 3 female head morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-head-morphs

    Genesis 3 female body morphs http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-female-body-morphs

    Feel it! Mix and Match Expressions for Victoria 7 http://www.daz3d.com/feel-it-mix-and-match-expressions-for-victoria-7

    Victoria 7 expression set http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-expression-set

     

    And you HAD to bring this up now? REALLY??  When I doing so good on the temptation front.... bad DAZ_Steve, bad... must resist temptation... but i don't have some of these... must resist... RESISTENCE IS FUTILE... YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED...

    LOL, those coupons didn't work for my shopping cart full of keymate, graphmate, castles and diners that i've been keeping patiently waiting for the Zev0 Growing Up Skin Resource to be released...but it is interesting to see what sells in this thread with regards to new products.

    Worked for me, with only my two Madness items and the two expression packs I didn't have.  Scored for $1.40 each. 

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,054

    ok Steve you got me with that deal, bought the moon garden and the two morphs for g3f and well they were each at 0.70$  total of 12.87$, now the girl has to show what she can...

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Awesome, thanks Steve!  I always wanted those expressions..

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508

    WUT

    OMG

    *checks items*

    Oops, I own all of those already. I think I have a buying problem :) Thanks Steve :D

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,582
    edited March 2016

    Aaaand... I've already got the things covered by the coupon...  Trying to look through what I need in the way of characters these days... heh. Need a normal guy character for G3M, and at least one of the toon style girl characters for G2F...

     

    And hope of discounts like that for Michael, Leo, and/or Gianni 7? (I'd include Guy 7 but he's the newest of the lot, and I've already got him.)

    Post edited by TesseractSpace on
  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,929
    SickleYield said:

    For the most part I agree with the consensus here, with the exception that my G2/G3 clones for Genesis have done about as well as my templates for Genesis 3 (I am now planning to do templates for G1 and G2 as well).  Some customers don't upgrade (as they've noted in this thread), and conversion facilitators never go out of style.  I don't need everybody in our market to buy every product, just a significant minority, and the minority of G1/G2 users that buy conversion utilities has turned out to be bigger than I originally assumed, so I'll probably always facilitate conversion in between doing products for the newest figures.

     

    And Fisty is very correct.  G3 is a BEAR to rig for compared to G2.

    Try animating G3 using all of the Available tools that retarget motions such as anibloks, poser .PZ2, bvh, or even Iclone 5.5 or mcj's highly useful free scripts. LOL your frustration will send you flying back to Genesis 2. That new " game engine" Ready rigging is useless if creating motion for the figure is a tedious , manual chore.
  • DAZ_Steve_2154153DAZ_Steve_2154153 Posts: 565
    wolf359 said:
    SickleYield said:

    For the most part I agree with the consensus here, with the exception that my G2/G3 clones for Genesis have done about as well as my templates for Genesis 3 (I am now planning to do templates for G1 and G2 as well).  Some customers don't upgrade (as they've noted in this thread), and conversion facilitators never go out of style.  I don't need everybody in our market to buy every product, just a significant minority, and the minority of G1/G2 users that buy conversion utilities has turned out to be bigger than I originally assumed, so I'll probably always facilitate conversion in between doing products for the newest figures.

     

    And Fisty is very correct.  G3 is a BEAR to rig for compared to G2.

     

    Try animating G3 using all of the Available tools that retarget motions such as anibloks, poser .PZ2, bvh, or even Iclone 5.5 or mcj's highly useful free scripts. LOL your frustration will send you flying back to Genesis 2. That new " game engine" Ready rigging is useless if creating motion for the figure is a tedious , manual chore.

    <Spoiler alert>  Look for a bunch of new Genesis 3 stuff from the GoFigure team very soon.

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,582
    DAZ_Steve said:
    wolf359 said:
    SickleYield said:

    For the most part I agree with the consensus here, with the exception that my G2/G3 clones for Genesis have done about as well as my templates for Genesis 3 (I am now planning to do templates for G1 and G2 as well).  Some customers don't upgrade (as they've noted in this thread), and conversion facilitators never go out of style.  I don't need everybody in our market to buy every product, just a significant minority, and the minority of G1/G2 users that buy conversion utilities has turned out to be bigger than I originally assumed, so I'll probably always facilitate conversion in between doing products for the newest figures.

     

    And Fisty is very correct.  G3 is a BEAR to rig for compared to G2.

     

    Try animating G3 using all of the Available tools that retarget motions such as anibloks, poser .PZ2, bvh, or even Iclone 5.5 or mcj's highly useful free scripts. LOL your frustration will send you flying back to Genesis 2. That new " game engine" Ready rigging is useless if creating motion for the figure is a tedious , manual chore.

    <Spoiler alert>  Look for a bunch of new Genesis 3 stuff from the GoFigure team very soon.

    Awesome! Someday I need to learn to animate in Studio I suppose... 

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited March 2016

    there is a gofigure team ?

    why do they no support about all the questions in this forum constantly appearing about their products ?

    their website is dead for years

    really a gofigure team ? ha

    where are they ?

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,738
    Ruphuss said:

    why do they no support about all the questions in this forum constantly appearing about there products ?

    Part of the agreement PAs have with DAZ is that DAZ handles the support for the products, so PAs have no obligation to come to the forums to answer questions. Some PAs choose to be active in the forums on top of regular DAZ support, some don't.

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