Feng mobile home

davesodaveso Posts: 8,170

https://www.daz3d.com/retro-mobile-home

This product leaves me with a few questions on its desgn. I like it, let me say that first. I live in the USA. I'm old. I have ever seen a mobile home with a second floor like this one has, or the jutting out portion portion whih is a higher than the overall home. They are usually straight from front to back with no changes in elevation, especially the ones that you can call retro. 
What are your thoughts about that? 
 

Overall, it probably doesn't matter all that much, I guess, but maybe it would be possible to hide those elevated areas or something. 

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 27,284

    I'm also in the USA. I'm also old. I've also never seen any mobile home that had such features. It looked real strange to me, too. 

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 864

    Mobile homes have come a long way; you might be surprised at some of the current designs. There's also a bit of a cross-over with modular homes, which are sometimes even more advanced in design. That still leaves the "retro" part of the title of Feng's asset. I really like it as well; I'm just going to call it a modular house. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,304
    edited July 26

    it could be one of those assembled from several sections brought to the site on different trucks or multiple trips

    I have been caught behind a convoy of bits of a house, temporary classroom,  on multiple trucks

    they are not really mobile more modular prefabs that can be removed later on and resold/purposed, but sometimes the terms get used interchangeably 

    I am Australian though

    Googling prefab homes shows images that look similar to that house too

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,170
    edited July 26

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    it could be one of those assembled from several sections brought to the site on different trucks or multiple trips

    I have been caught behind a convoy of bits of a house, temporary classroom,  on multiple trucks

    they are not really mobile more modular prefabs that can be removed later on and resold/purposed, but sometimes the terms get used interchangeably 

    I am Australian though

    Googling prefab homes shows images that look similar to that house too

    thats probably it. modular. We have mobile home parks all over the place, and nothing that looks like this, even the newer ones. What also is strange, I'm not sure those elevations and jut out are evident from the inside. anyone have it yet?

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  • garrett_3dgarrett_3d Posts: 687

    Even mobile homes can have extensions. Who is to say that the original home wasn't just the right hand section and the left side and upper level were added at a later date?

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770
    edited July 26

    The key word in the name here is "retro".  Yes, two story trailers of a sort DID exist in the U.S. as far back as the 1950's, the most famous line of which were the Ventoura Loft Liners, which were manufactured from the early 50s through the 1960's, and, as the name suggests, had a secondary loft section on one side.  There are still examples of these surviving out there, but they have always been rather rare and were never very practical as they were very difficult to transport as they were taller than most bridges.  I even found a facebook posting from someone who was planning on restoring a Loft Liner that they had recently acquired https://www.facebook.com/groups/418966948126570/posts/25132845166312072/   and, looking at Feng's product, their design appears to be based around that general concept.

     

    Edit - Corrected name of Trailer line from "Ventura" to "Ventoura".    

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 111,002

    Depending on how retroit is meant to be the satellite dish might also be odd.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770
    edited July 27

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Depending on how retroit is meant to be the satellite dish might also be odd.

    Not really.  It's only the style or date of manufacture of the home itself that's retro, and as I noted in a previous post, there are still models out there in the wild today.  If one was in a modern trailer park or somewhere in the mountains, a satellite dish would certainly be a likely addition.

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,170

    well, so be it on design. I've never seen anything like it in my entire life and I know people from way back in the 50  and 60s that lived in trailers.... and surely enough people that lived in mobile home parks, and have never seen one. But maybe I've lived a sheltered life or something. OK then. thanks for info. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770
    edited July 27

    Found this ad and a cutaway illustration of one of the 1955 Ventouras, which makes Feng's version look quaint and tiny.  Two stories, three bedrooms, and double axels!  No idea how many of these monsters were actually sold... but as you can see by how house-like the model illustrated in the ad appears, it would be difficult to recognize this as a trailer at all at a casual glance.  

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  • I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,506

    That looks to be 10 foot wide at the small end and 12 or 14 foot wide at the large end. I livde in Elkhart County, Indiana - considered at  one time to be the MHRV capital of the world - and frame and axle assemblies  just aren't built that way. It's like someone took a 10 by 20 camper and a salvaged 40 or 60 by 12 mobile home and grafted them together. Standard sizes would normally be 12 or 14 feet wide and 40 to 65 feet long, with multiple modules combined side by side or stacked.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    daveso said:

    What are your thoughts about that? 

    I wonder where the "mobile" part of it is? Of course it's probably hidden right there on the lower part, but how would I for example render it as being in transport? 

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,690

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

    It is not the only new release with mismatched sockets. I would have expected this one: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-british-country-house-hotel to have British sockets, but it does not.

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,839

    maikdecker said:

    daveso said:

    What are your thoughts about that? 

    I wonder where the "mobile" part of it is? Of course it's probably hidden right there on the lower part, but how would I for example render it as being in transport? 

    You wouldn't render in transport because that only happens once. Immobile mobile home parks are a "normal" part of the US. The mobile home is parked at a spot with zero intention to ever move it again. This prop is exactly what a mobile home from the 70s or 80s would look like. (Aside from the power receptacles.) I can drive past 2 of these style neighborhoods with dozens and dozens of these "mobile" homes with 5 miles of my home. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770

    Havos said:

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

    It is not the only new release with mismatched sockets. I would have expected this one: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-british-country-house-hotel to have British sockets, but it does not.

    On the other hand, at least it HAS sockets.  So many of the sets sold here are lacking them, as well as things like wall switches, etc..  Fortunately there are a couple of accessory sets that allow you to add or replace them like https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-cables ,

    https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-create-a-room-base-set , and https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/133803/atoz-electric-outlets-plus-v1 at Rendo to fix the issue... though, to be honest, I tend to just do it in Photoshop myself these days.  

  • LorraineLorraine Posts: 1,031

    Cybersox said:

    Havos said:

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

    It is not the only new release with mismatched sockets. I would have expected this one: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-british-country-house-hotel to have British sockets, but it does not.

    On the other hand, at least it HAS sockets.  So many of the sets sold here are lacking them, as well as things like wall switches, etc..  Fortunately there are a couple of accessory sets that allow you to add or replace them like https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-cables ,

    https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-create-a-room-base-set , and https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/133803/atoz-electric-outlets-plus-v1 at Rendo to fix the issue... though, to be honest, I tend to just do it in Photoshop myself these days.  

    Try getting NZ/AU plugs and sockets...I've managed to find one double socket on Sketchfab, no plugs, no light switches, no power boards. It's enough to make you think you've been forgotten at the bottom of the world...oh, wait

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,839

    Cybersox said:

    Havos said:

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

    It is not the only new release with mismatched sockets. I would have expected this one: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-british-country-house-hotel to have British sockets, but it does not.

    On the other hand, at least it HAS sockets.  So many of the sets sold here are lacking them, as well as things like wall switches, etc.. 

    And doors. There are assets that lack doors into the space. There are restaurant assets with no place to put a bathroom. Not asking for the bathroom, just a door to the space. Being able to imagine people living in the space isn't always part of the design calculus used by some who make these assets.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,856

    my immediate thought was that it was just this concept from dekogon with some nonsensical tweaks

     

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  • donniekeidicdonniekeidic Posts: 59

    The biggest problem is that nothing is rigged but the front door, its basically one big prop. The GeeSee3D mobile home is much better in every regard. Every single thing in the GeeSee3D Mobile home is rigged. I was hoping to have some variety for a mobile home park, but I'm really dissapointed with this and requested a refund already. Even for $2.99 its just not worth it imo. Its too bad because its kind of interesting at first glance. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770

    lilweep said:

    my immediate thought was that it was just this concept from dekogon with some nonsensical tweaks

     

    Try googling "double decker mobile home" or "Ventoura Loft Trailer".  I was surprised by what a wide variety of similar models were actually manufactured, and from the images I've seen they seem to have often had pointed roofs, porches, decks, etc., added on to to make them look more house-like.  During my searches I even found a ready-to-use "O" scale model railroad prop being released for sale pre-made by Woodland Scenics https://mrmuffinstrains.com/products/woodland-scenics-br5862-double-decker-trailer-o-scale .   

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,839

    donniekeidic said:

    The biggest problem is that nothing is rigged but the front door, its basically one big prop.

    That is always a big problem. Too many assets aren't designed for anything but fixed camera location shots.

  • Cybersox said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Depending on how retroit is meant to be the satellite dish might also be odd.

    Not really.  It's only the style or date of manufacture of the home itself that's retro, and as I noted in a previous post, there are still models out there in the wild today.  If one was in a modern trailer park or somewhere in the mountains, a satellite dish would certainly be a likely addition.

    My grandparents used to live in a trailer, and I remember some of their neighbors in the trailer park had satellite dishes back when I used to visit. They were the old massive kind though.

    The interior of their trailer looked a lot like this, btw. Right down to the pattern of the plastic "wallpaper". It wasn't nearly this spacious, though, but their trailer had actually been mobile when my dad was a boy. I would have said the layout of this one is fanciful, but according to that ad, this sort of design actually existed? Wild. Definitely not the norm though. Most are actually designed to be pulled behind a truck, even if for many that's more of a legal formality to justify not needing a foundation.

  • Lorraine said:

    Cybersox said:

    Havos said:

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

    It is not the only new release with mismatched sockets. I would have expected this one: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-british-country-house-hotel to have British sockets, but it does not.

    On the other hand, at least it HAS sockets.  So many of the sets sold here are lacking them, as well as things like wall switches, etc..  Fortunately there are a couple of accessory sets that allow you to add or replace them like https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-cables ,

    https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-create-a-room-base-set , and https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/133803/atoz-electric-outlets-plus-v1 at Rendo to fix the issue... though, to be honest, I tend to just do it in Photoshop myself these days.  

    Try getting NZ/AU plugs and sockets...I've managed to find one double socket on Sketchfab, no plugs, no light switches, no power boards. It's enough to make you think you've been forgotten at the bottom of the world...oh, wait

    A set of international power outlet decals might be nice to have. Not sure if there would be enough of a market for an actual product.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770

    donniekeidic said:

    The biggest problem is that nothing is rigged but the front door, its basically one big prop. The GeeSee3D mobile home is much better in every regard. Every single thing in the GeeSee3D Mobile home is rigged. I was hoping to have some variety for a mobile home park, but I'm really dissapointed with this and requested a refund already. Even for $2.99 its just not worth it imo. Its too bad because its kind of interesting at first glance. 

    100% agreed... well, except for the fact that $2.99 was more than cheap enough for me to keep it.  After all, the thing about mobile homes is that they're usually found in group situations like trailer parks, so it never hurts to have a number of very different designs, even if some are kept in the background.  As it is, not counting obvious travel, food service, and camping trailers, I currently have around a dozen different mobile homes in my collection, but a lot are really ancient things like Meshbox's old series. Fine for background ambience, but not really up to close-up scrutiny, and for all it's wekanesses, this one is, at least, detailed enough on the outside to be featured..         

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,770

    gwalla_2536c3a4a6 said:

    Lorraine said:

    Cybersox said:

    Havos said:

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    I thought it was a little weird as well, but it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something.  The plugs are not their own object or surface, so it's a bit of a pain to retrofit this if it needs to look American.  I always appreciate having both an outside and inside environment like this though.

    It is not the only new release with mismatched sockets. I would have expected this one: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-british-country-house-hotel to have British sockets, but it does not.

    On the other hand, at least it HAS sockets.  So many of the sets sold here are lacking them, as well as things like wall switches, etc..  Fortunately there are a couple of accessory sets that allow you to add or replace them like https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-cables ,

    https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-create-a-room-base-set , and https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/133803/atoz-electric-outlets-plus-v1 at Rendo to fix the issue... though, to be honest, I tend to just do it in Photoshop myself these days.  

    Try getting NZ/AU plugs and sockets...I've managed to find one double socket on Sketchfab, no plugs, no light switches, no power boards. It's enough to make you think you've been forgotten at the bottom of the world...oh, wait

    A set of international power outlet decals might be nice to have. Not sure if there would be enough of a market for an actual product.

    Enough market for the DAZ store?  Maybe not.  But I'd definitely buy it if it was at Rendo.    

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    joshua.r.fletcher said:

    it seems to have non-U.S. electricity plugs so I figured it was some kind of European style or something

    Not easy to see them in the promo, but the ones below the plasma TV (around since the end of the 90s) look quite un-european to me. Like probably the whole product, from the kitchen stove to the general design

    jmucchiello said:

    maikdecker said:

    I wonder where the "mobile" part of it is? Of course it's probably hidden right there on the lower part, but how would I for example render it as being in transport? 

    You wouldn't render in transport because that only happens once. Immobile mobile home parks are a "normal" part of the US. The mobile home is parked at a spot with zero intention to ever move it again. 

    And if I would want to render it getting transported to it's final resting place? And I do recall occasions on TV where a mobile home got transported from one spot to a different spot, because the owner got a new job. So maybe that's exactly what I would want to show in a picture. frown

  • chanurchanur Posts: 60

    daveso said:

    thats probably it. modular. We have mobile home parks all over the place, and nothing that looks like this, even the newer ones. What also is strange, I'm not sure those elevations and jut out are evident from the inside. anyone have it yeft?

    The upper level cannot be accessed from inside. The bedroom has a ceiling with a fan. You can use the Geometry Tool to delete the ceiling, but this will leave the fan hanging in the air. The attic could potentially be used as a storage room, but there is no door to access it. As mentioned before, none of the internal doors are rigged. IMHO, there are much better mobile homes available in the store.

     

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,371
    These types of mobile homes are common in my area. They were moved to the lot once and then made "permanent." To me, what makes it seem "unrealistic" is that it's by itself. It should be either be with other mobile homes or mixed in a regular house neighborhood.
  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,839

    MimicMolly said:

    These types of mobile homes are common in my area. They were moved to the lot once and then made "permanent." To me, what makes it seem "unrealistic" is that it's by itself. It should be either be with other mobile homes or mixed in a regular house neighborhood.

    Or completely surrounded by dense forest, a single dirt road, and a lot of rain as the teenagers are looking for shelter.

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