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What irritates me is people coming up with a bunch of excuses so that their characterization of strong women... oh hey, look at that, just HAPPENS to be a scantily clad, young, buxom woman. What an odd coincidence.
And then they earnestly explain how she's actually an alien where floatation is important and it's very warm, so that's their traditional dress or whatever.
That made me chuckle. Thanks!
I certainly would explain a lot though.
I used the excuse that my character is subconsciously using her shape changing abilities to make herself look like she wants to. But then I actually plan to have her face her body image issues and restore her less buxom more plain faced form afterwards.
Scantily clad is only a side effect of channeling more power than her clothing can stand. Fixing that is high on her priorities.
I like messing with the common tropes.
LMAO, well it's not quite as bad as the many of the real life rail thin teenager girls who still manage to find clothing tight enough and small enough to look like a can of burst pop-n-fresh dough.
However in the DAZ world, I think it really has a lot to do with the clothing available isn't up to par to matching the realism of the skin and lots of times the hair too as you'll notice often the promo art forsakes the hair. If you cloth them, then you are tasked with a much more demanding job of convincingly introducing wrinkles, fabric draping, and the appropriate textures and shading to the promo art for the clothing as well as other putting them in an environment appropriate to the cloths. That's a week's job in itself to get that right but one a professional should expect to do.
I have to agree with the OP, even as I agree with the many who stated what makes a woman "strong" is not what clothes she wears. But as a marketing ploy, it just seems advertising NEW Strong Female Characters, etc., should give us something else to choose from than the standard fare of the perfect female form and skimpwear.
Want an example? New female character; tailored suit with interchangable knee length skirt and slacks, simple blouse and low-heeled dress shoes; Judge's robes for either male or female; Detailed courtroom set. There, she's an attorney/solicitor. Or she's the judge. Of course, a nice suit like that can be used for just about any professional career woman. (I know, there's one available already: Business Suit for Genesis 3 Female(s), but some variety would be nice. And I'd love to see what IH Kang would come up with...)
Exactly L'Adair! That was what made me post. The combination of the wording and the products just doesn't work. It's like running an advertisement about fireproof building material and selling plain straw. Doesn't mean straw is bad and I never want to have straw or never use straw. I'd just not build my home out of untreated straw, but instead go for at least straw that's treated so it really is fireproof.
And btw. seeing what is on offer today just puts another nail in this... MMA clothes and poses for the guys... why not for women? Has nobody ever heard about the women who are MMA fighters? They're badass. But there's next to no stuff for that.
That said: even though I would love a product for the 'girls' to accompany today's release, that does not mean that only physically fighting women are strong women. Quite the opposite. Like many in this topic said it's about more than clothes.
Still... if your choice of job related clothes mostly consits of things that you'd find in the halloween-costume-section (sexy female firefighter, sexy policewoman, sexy whatever), you'll have a hard time to be taken seriously.
But my real point with this topic wasn't to change what's in the store (even though I'd love to have some more choice for female characters, male characters too!), but to ask DAZ to not use such wording in advertising these items. DAZ isn't VW after all :)
I do though love the discussion that came out of it and how all of you go about it.
so would facial features count you know still attractive but they have that tough look like they could beat the crap out of you like Lucy Lawless, Claudia Black, Milla Jovovich, Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Jodi Foster, Kate Beckinsale, Michelle Rodriguez and so on? Then there's Gia 6 and 7 as well as Heroine she has a strong tough girl look in her face
I do own Gia and some great morphs by zevo and handspan studios ... that's not the problem. I can create women with strong features with what I have and with posing myself and many a clothes I have bought since V4 for exactly the reason that they're not just sexy version of mens cloths or even sexier versions of already sexy female clothes...
I just don't see how what was sold fit with the description. As someone who works with women in a men-dominated business-line I have very often had to deal with how words can diminish a womans position in that line of work. So I am a bit sensitive to these things... and I know that for someone who has no trouble with that it sounds crazy to be aware of every word... I thought so too when I started out. But after 'living' this job since 1998 my views have changed through experience. The thing is, that every little thing counts. Even something that seems so remote as DAZ is to my job. Because the problem exists not only in my job, but kind of everywhere.
It's an important cause for me, that is why I posted it, not becaus I had trouble creating a character with a specific trait :)
(that doesn't mean though, that I wouldn't be happy to see more stuff that would make that easier for me in the store ;) )
And your question and hints are of course very welcome and sure will help, Angelreaper1972!
edit: and I really should learn to spellcheck before I send the posting *sigh*