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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048
    edited July 4

    ditto

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  • QuasarQuasar Posts: 679

    joanna said:

    I have no problem falling asleep in the evening. But I do wake up in the middle of the night (usually around 3 am), and then can't go back to sleep. Reason? Just like Gordig's, "Brain just won't shut up."

    This is what happens to me too. I fall asleep fast, so why can't I get back to sleep quickly? Sometimes, reading a book (fiction) on my phone helps quiet my thoughts enough to get sleepy again. I don't know how/why though.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    edited July 4

    ...a number of similar things (save for cats) 

    The foremost is what Oso3D mentioned. it's more just the personal worry and  concern about what's happening as coupled with my "sense of duty" of being a "concerned citizen" this has pretty much become a full time job in an of itself . My advocacy work used to take just the mornings but then stretched to the afternoons and as of ;late into the early evening.  I can get upwards of 75 - 100 emails (with more constantly dropping in) by the time I sit down at the computer with my morning tea and brekkie to read the latest news stories, newsletters, perform, research compose commentaries, and submitting letters.  

    Many times  I have trouble trying to sleep as I my mind  is still busy formulating lresponse etters and  commentaries before the next morning's "barrage",  It used to be my stories that kept me awake but those have since been relegated to "temporary" archives in some dusty corner of my mind.

    Saturdays and Sundays and the occasional holiday are about the only times the "carpet bombing" of my inbox subsides enough to engage in other activities. Since retiring I feel I have been working harder and sleeping less than when I worked 40 - 50 hours a week pulling in a monthly paycheque (and spending nearly 4 hours commuting round trip).  Wednesday night I was up until the sun rose, working on character development and design in Daz to try and relax a bit from the day's events. 

    One of other situations that sometimes keeps me awake at times are living costs that keep going up faster than my pension does. Even simple pleasures like meeting with friends for an afternoon over a couple cups of coffee or pints of cheap beer is becoming a "luxury".. 

    Finally yes pain is also a matter as my "head to toe" arthritis makes it difficult to find a comfortable sleeping position. There is really no cure, just mitigating the pain and stiffness to get through the day and night.

    Being in my 7th decade doesn't make any of this easier

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  • NewGuyNewGuy Posts: 261

    I'll tell you, right now @Herschel Hoffmeyer is keeping me awake at night with items like this: HH Huskbane and this: HH Demon.  

    All kidding aside, I'm also one of the wakes at 3 am to go to bathroom, can't get back to sleep.  My mistake is I check DAZ3d.com to see the new updates and end up having trouble getting back to sleep.  The dangers of being a DAZaholic.

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,603

    NewGuy said:

    I'll tell you, right now @Herschel Hoffmeyer is keeping me awake at night with items like this: HH Huskbane and this: HH Demon.  

    All kidding aside, I'm also one of the wakes at 3 am to go to bathroom, can't get back to sleep.  My mistake is I check DAZ3d.com to see the new updates and end up having trouble getting back to sleep.  The dangers of being a DAZaholic.

    I'm getting serious Crawler from Fable III vibes with Huskbane. It's absolutely horrifying. I'd say that's a good thing. But I still get nightmares about The Crawler, so maybe not. 

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 2,203
    A friend of mine had a lightning strike some years ago. At that time, she had water coming out of a ceiling fan with lights.
  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113
    In 1947 in our last house there was a lightning issue. It was a Victorian house, built at the end of the 1890's. The lady of the house was cooking something on the kitchen range. She had just turned away to the sink when lightning followed the ionised smoke down to the chimney (which detonated and several tons of bricks came crashing down) then continued into the range. At this point the range exploded all over the kitchen, scattering hot coals and ash everywhere. So far as we're aware the lady of the house wasn't badly injured, but was terrified of thunderstorms for the rest of her life. She died in 1990. She had a gas stove after that, and that was still the newest innovation in the house when we bought it in 1992. Regards, Richard
  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,822

    richardandtracy said:

    In 1947 in our last house there was a lightning issue. It was a Victorian house, built at the end of the 1890's. The lady of the house was cooking something on the kitchen range. She had just turned away to the sink when lightning followed the ionised smoke down to the chimney (which detonated and several tons of bricks came crashing down) then continued into the range. At this point the range exploded all over the kitchen, scattering hot coals and ash everywhere. So far as we're aware the lady of the house wasn't badly injured, but was terrified of thunderstorms for the rest of her life. She died in 1990. She had a gas stove after that, and that was still the newest innovation in the house when we bought it in 1992. Regards, Richard

    Holy cow, what are the odds?? I'm glad things weren't worse, but I can only imagine how terrifying that must have been in the moment.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113
    Yep, a terrifying experience. But it's also worth remembering that smoke in a thunderstorm is similar to US President Franklin's 'Flying a kite with a copper wire experiment' in a thunderstorm. Both the smoke trail and copper wire are conductors straight down to earth, giving the lightning an easy, ready conductive path to follow. Being near a fire in a thunderstorm is NOT a good place to be. Regards, Richard.
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,461
    edited July 6

    richardandtracy said:

    Yep, a terrifying experience. But it's also worth remembering that smoke in a thunderstorm is similar to US President Franklin's 'Flying a kite with a copper wire experiment' in a thunderstorm. Both the smoke trail and copper wire are conductors straight down to earth, giving the lightning an easy, ready conductive path to follow. Being near a fire in a thunderstorm is NOT a good place to be. Regards, Richard.

    Wild story! We've just had some severe thunderstorms where I live last week, and several houses got struck. I'm seriously contemplating getting a lightning rod installed, though they are quite expensive. But then, roofs are, too ...

    To add to the original subject, last night, I actually slept quite okay for once. Had a good cry and then long talk with my wife about my frustrations with my illness, especially how modern sources tell you to relax and stop worrying because this is making it worse - and I often can't, at least not without some distraction - and so it must be all my fault that it's not getting better ... Oof. My wife reminded me very gently that we're all different, and relax in different ways, and that an illness is not a challenge to succeed in, but just an unfortunate event to endure and manage as best as possible.

    know all of this, of course; but hearing somebody else say it once more really helped a ton somehow. So if possible at all, I can highly recommend talking. Novel idea, I know ... wink But does really work. We develop such skewed images of ourselves and our lives inside if left unchecked by reality every once in a while.

    After that talk, I spend the evening happily playing Sims 3 ... laugh

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048

    tsroemi said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Yep, a terrifying experience. But it's also worth remembering that smoke in a thunderstorm is similar to US President Franklin's 'Flying a kite with a copper wire experiment' in a thunderstorm. Both the smoke trail and copper wire are conductors straight down to earth, giving the lightning an easy, ready conductive path to follow. Being near a fire in a thunderstorm is NOT a good place to be. Regards, Richard.

    Wild story! We've just had some severe thunderstorms where I live last week, and several houses got struck. I'm seriously contemplating getting a lightning rod installed, though they are quite expensive. But then, roofs are, too ...

    I remember Mr Ballen doing a story on this guy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan 

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,822

    tsroemi said:

    To add to the original subject, last night, I actually slept quite okay for once. Had a good cry and then long talk with my wife about my frustrations with my illness, especially how modern sources tell you to relax and stop worrying because this is making it worse - and I often can't, at least not without some distraction - and so it must be all my fault that it's not getting better ... Oof. My wife reminded me very gently that we're all different, and relax in different ways, and that an illness is not a challenge to succeed in, but just an unfortunate event to endure and manage as best as possible.

    know all of this, of course; but hearing somebody else say it once more really helped a ton somehow. So if possible at all, I can highly recommend talking. Novel idea, I know ... wink But does really work. We develop such skewed images of ourselves and our lives inside if left unchecked by reality every once in a while.

    After that talk, I spend the evening happily playing Sims 3 ... laugh

    I'm glad the talk helped. Our society places such an emphasis on the virtues of going on no matter what, and not letting anything slow you down, and how you've failed when something that is a disability actually... y'know... disables you. Please be as kind to yourself as you can. And know that in this day and age, telling ANYONE to relax and not worry is patently absurd.

    (If it makes you feel any better, when I was in nursing school we had several huge lectures on the importance of sleep, stress management, and self-care, and how if we were not checking those boxes we were horrible examples to our patients and society. The healthcare ethics book even said there was no viable reason not to eat right, exercise, and get enough sleep. Meanwhile the only way to actually accomplish all the assignments and reading on top of required class, lab, and clinicals was to literally fold time. So healthcare workers are horrible to their trainees, too. And I learned I am too old to regularly go 40+ hours without sleep and not pay the price.)

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,289

    SilverGirl said:

    tsroemi said:

    To add to the original subject, last night, I actually slept quite okay for once. Had a good cry and then long talk with my wife about my frustrations with my illness, especially how modern sources tell you to relax and stop worrying because this is making it worse - and I often can't, at least not without some distraction - and so it must be all my fault that it's not getting better ... Oof. My wife reminded me very gently that we're all different, and relax in different ways, and that an illness is not a challenge to succeed in, but just an unfortunate event to endure and manage as best as possible.

    know all of this, of course; but hearing somebody else say it once more really helped a ton somehow. So if possible at all, I can highly recommend talking. Novel idea, I know ... wink But does really work. We develop such skewed images of ourselves and our lives inside if left unchecked by reality every once in a while.

    After that talk, I spend the evening happily playing Sims 3 ... laugh

    I'm glad the talk helped. Our society places such an emphasis on the virtues of going on no matter what, and not letting anything slow you down, and how you've failed when something that is a disability actually... y'know... disables you. Please be as kind to yourself as you can. And know that in this day and age, telling ANYONE to relax and not worry is patently absurd.

    (If it makes you feel any better, when I was in nursing school we had several huge lectures on the importance of sleep, stress management, and self-care, and how if we were not checking those boxes we were horrible examples to our patients and society. The healthcare ethics book even said there was no viable reason not to eat right, exercise, and get enough sleep. Meanwhile the only way to actually accomplish all the assignments and reading on top of required class, lab, and clinicals was to literally fold time. So healthcare workers are horrible to their trainees, too. And I learned I am too old to regularly go 40+ hours without sleep and not pay the price.)

    @tsroemi, your partner is more right than you know. My case was managed by a PA at the clinic at RAF Bentwaters under the supervision of an Internal Medicine Doctor at RAF Lakenheath who never saw me. He was told to not explain what was going on in my body, let me discover them as I went. After my thyroid was oblated and I shifted from very hyperthroid to hypothyroid faster than they expected, I was crawling the walls at all hours, my mind going into weird nooks and crannies of worry, my appetite was nuts, and I withdrew from the best friend I had in the military and my family. I am a single mother and my son was in 6th and 7th grade and at a loss. I then I felt suicidal. That is when one morning I went to the clinics ER and asked for help. They got me to Mental Health and a psychologist explained for the first time to me what the chemical imbalances were doing in my body and what to expect. We had a series of meetings. I obviously survived, but it was his explanations that helped me through this. My PA was a good man and relieved someone else had spoken to me of this, because he had been under orders not to tell me what was happening to me. Things got better. But when I transferred back to the USA, I did have to be more outspoken about what I was observing in my own body and that has continued to this day with my retirement. I have to pay attention to all the minor symptoms of Graves Disease and my TSH going out of balance and push my doctor to order the tests. The only thing I can't do having Graves is donate blood or body parts anymore. And that really bites.

    And the cat struck again this morning. But I went back to sleep, but he persisted until he got both me and my flatmate up. On Sunday. By 5am. He is now sleeping on my pillow. With his older brother. Perfectly happy.

    Thoughts running through my mind, Forum rules keep me from elaborating. But enough to say I have broken off communication with my son's family until 2029 to keep them safe from retaliation.

    Mary

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,461

    memcneil70 said:

    SilverGirl said:

    tsroemi said:

    To add to the original subject, last night, I actually slept quite okay for once. Had a good cry and then long talk with my wife about my frustrations with my illness, especially how modern sources tell you to relax and stop worrying because this is making it worse - and I often can't, at least not without some distraction - and so it must be all my fault that it's not getting better ... Oof. My wife reminded me very gently that we're all different, and relax in different ways, and that an illness is not a challenge to succeed in, but just an unfortunate event to endure and manage as best as possible.

    know all of this, of course; but hearing somebody else say it once more really helped a ton somehow. So if possible at all, I can highly recommend talking. Novel idea, I know ... wink But does really work. We develop such skewed images of ourselves and our lives inside if left unchecked by reality every once in a while.

    After that talk, I spend the evening happily playing Sims 3 ... laugh

    I'm glad the talk helped. Our society places such an emphasis on the virtues of going on no matter what, and not letting anything slow you down, and how you've failed when something that is a disability actually... y'know... disables you. Please be as kind to yourself as you can. And know that in this day and age, telling ANYONE to relax and not worry is patently absurd.

    (If it makes you feel any better, when I was in nursing school we had several huge lectures on the importance of sleep, stress management, and self-care, and how if we were not checking those boxes we were horrible examples to our patients and society. The healthcare ethics book even said there was no viable reason not to eat right, exercise, and get enough sleep. Meanwhile the only way to actually accomplish all the assignments and reading on top of required class, lab, and clinicals was to literally fold time. So healthcare workers are horrible to their trainees, too. And I learned I am too old to regularly go 40+ hours without sleep and not pay the price.)

    @tsroemi, your partner is more right than you know. My case was managed by a PA at the clinic at RAF Bentwaters under the supervision of an Internal Medicine Doctor at RAF Lakenheath who never saw me. He was told to not explain what was going on in my body, let me discover them as I went. After my thyroid was oblated and I shifted from very hyperthroid to hypothyroid faster than they expected, I was crawling the walls at all hours, my mind going into weird nooks and crannies of worry, my appetite was nuts, and I withdrew from the best friend I had in the military and my family. I am a single mother and my son was in 6th and 7th grade and at a loss. I then I felt suicidal. That is when one morning I went to the clinics ER and asked for help. They got me to Mental Health and a psychologist explained for the first time to me what the chemical imbalances were doing in my body and what to expect. We had a series of meetings. I obviously survived, but it was his explanations that helped me through this. My PA was a good man and relieved someone else had spoken to me of this, because he had been under orders not to tell me what was happening to me. Things got better. But when I transferred back to the USA, I did have to be more outspoken about what I was observing in my own body and that has continued to this day with my retirement. I have to pay attention to all the minor symptoms of Graves Disease and my TSH going out of balance and push my doctor to order the tests. The only thing I can't do having Graves is donate blood or body parts anymore. And that really bites.

    And the cat struck again this morning. But I went back to sleep, but he persisted until he got both me and my flatmate up. On Sunday. By 5am. He is now sleeping on my pillow. With his older brother. Perfectly happy.

    Thoughts running through my mind, Forum rules keep me from elaborating. But enough to say I have broken off communication with my son's family until 2029 to keep them safe from retaliation.

    Mary

    Thank you both so much for your comments and encouragement! @SilverGirl, what a horrible story about your nurse training, this is so sick. I bet it hasn't changed much since. And Mary, it's really so true, this illness messes incredibly with one's feelings, and one has to always keep pushing the doctors to do stuff. I never understand why they're so often so unwilling. It's not like they have to pay for the blood tests themselves, no? - Thanks for alerting me also that I cannot donate anymore, I didn't know that. Seriously, nobody tells me anything here ...angry 

    Hope everyone is in for a better night today than usual, the universe can be kind sometimes, out of nowhere. 

     

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,707

    Quasar said:

    For me, it's sleep apnea. I have a bi-pap machine, but it seems to have gotten weaker over time. I keep waking up, and I know I'm not getting deep, sound sleep. I hope the doctor can get things back on track at my appointment next week. It may be time for a new sleep study.

    I also use a bi-pap machine. I have complex sleep apnea and very severe central sleep apnea. Cleveland Clinic Dr said it's the worst case that she has seen in her career. Because of it being so severe, if I fall asleep on accident without it or forget to turn it on, I have a very high likelihood of being catatonic most or all day due to hypoxia. It's a long-standing statement that all the mods and wife tell me to "put your mask on" before logging off for the night. It's gotten so bad that we had to install security cameras in all the rooms of the house so I can be monitored and if something occurs the wife intercoms through the cameras to wake me or to say something else. My worry is forgetting to wear or turn on at night and not waking.

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,822
    edited July 7

    @Frank0314 -Yipes... I'm glad you've figured out and instituted some precautions. That sounds nerve-wracking.

     

    ...tonight I am awake courtesy of the fact that it is summer, and summer means sweat, and sweat means diaper rash for my little dude because pull-ups are not breathable, and chafe along the non-absorbant parts (like along the hips). But we can't very well go without the pull-ups, and he won't put up with rash cream, so he's airing his derrière while he plays in a dishpan of water in the bath tub. Thank goodness I have a decent cushion to sit on.

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,461

    frank0314 said:

    Quasar said:

    For me, it's sleep apnea. I have a bi-pap machine, but it seems to have gotten weaker over time. I keep waking up, and I know I'm not getting deep, sound sleep. I hope the doctor can get things back on track at my appointment next week. It may be time for a new sleep study.

    I also use a bi-pap machine. I have complex sleep apnea and very severe central sleep apnea. Cleveland Clinic Dr said it's the worst case that she has seen in her career. Because of it being so severe, if I fall asleep on accident without it or forget to turn it on, I have a very high likelihood of being catatonic most or all day due to hypoxia. It's a long-standing statement that all the mods and wife tell me to "put your mask on" before logging off for the night. It's gotten so bad that we had to install security cameras in all the rooms of the house so I can be monitored and if something occurs the wife intercoms through the cameras to wake me or to say something else. My worry is forgetting to wear or turn on at night and not waking.

    That sounds horrible, I'm very sorry that you have to try and sleep under such conditions. It's amazing really that you manage to get up and do things (and even patrol us naughty forummers) at all! You must be permanently exhausted. 

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,942

    Today started with me thinking about ants because when I did fall asleep last night, I dreamt about them. This afternoon I had to battle an invasion of ants in my outdoor aviary. Who lnew they loved romaine lettuce! I tracked the ants and found they were bombarding a nesting house. Some bird decided romaine lettuce was softer than the nesting material I had provided. An army of ants were invading that bird house.  I was thinking I was thinking how much I hated ants until . . . I killed two mosquitos — but not before they got me several times. Vinegar helps with the itching but doesn't obliterate it and certainly does nothing for smooth soft skin. Yes somethings are far worse than ants. I will be awake all night scratching/clawing at my legs.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,461

    ArtAngel said:

    Today started with me thinking about ants because when I did fall asleep last night, I dreamt about them. This afternoon I had to battle an invasion of ants in my outdoor aviary. Who lnew they loved romaine lettuce! I tracked the ants and found they were bombarding a nesting house. Some bird decided romaine lettuce was softer than the nesting material I had provided. An army of ants were invading that bird house.  I was thinking I was thinking how much I hated ants until . . . I killed two mosquitos — but not before they got me several times. Vinegar helps with the itching but doesn't obliterate it and certainly does nothing for smooth soft skin. Yes somethings are far worse than ants. I will be awake all night scratching/clawing at my legs.

    You can try to scatter cinnamon where they're entering, or lime powder (the building material, not the fruit). They really don't like either, but with cinnamon, it's kinda hard to make the line thick enough.

    Hope the itching will be less this night! Maybe fresh onions help, or a heated spoon? 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048

    I use Borax Powder but that's likely no good around birds

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,822

    ArtAngel said:

    Today started with me thinking about ants because when I did fall asleep last night, I dreamt about them. This afternoon I had to battle an invasion of ants in my outdoor aviary. Who lnew they loved romaine lettuce! I tracked the ants and found they were bombarding a nesting house. Some bird decided romaine lettuce was softer than the nesting material I had provided. An army of ants were invading that bird house.  I was thinking I was thinking how much I hated ants until . . . I killed two mosquitos — but not before they got me several times. Vinegar helps with the itching but doesn't obliterate it and certainly does nothing for smooth soft skin. Yes somethings are far worse than ants. I will be awake all night scratching/clawing at my legs.

    I've heard that powdered sugar and baking soda mixture can non-toxic take out ants, but I'm not sure how safe it is around birds? Too weird about the lettuce... I'd never think of building a nest out of that.

    Massive sympathy on the mosquito bites. The one and only reason I possess a hair dryer is for mosquito season, not my hair. If you put it on high and aim it at the bites as long as you can tolerate, then let the skin cool and repeat an extra time or two, I've found it kills the itching.

    I can't remember how I figured that one out, but the topical stuff does nothing for me, and it really saved my sanity when I was pregnant and a magnet for the stinking things. I was at an event in a long skirt at one point, and a few got up there and did their worst to both my legs... and, insult to injury, I was far enough along I couldn't even reach some of them to scratch. Hair dryer nuked the issue from a distance. :)

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,289

    I am really allergic to mosquito bites. When I was stationed in Taiwan it was terrible until one of the local employees saw my swollen face and brought me a mosquito coil to burn in my dorm room. It worked. I think they are here in the States now. But I would use calamine lotion on the bites. Yeah I was a pink walking mess but it was better than scratching my face, arms, legs raw and bloody. Thankfully my blood chemistry seems to have changed and they ignor me now. Good thing, Denver now has cases of West Nile this year.

    Ants, well I used Raid in Taiwan when I rescued a dormmate who was screaming because she had been sleeping due to the flu and woke covered in ants biting her. The wall next to her bed and the floor was black with ants. I had been in the gang latrine taking a shower and ran to her room. I sent her there to use my stuff to clean up while I grab shorts and tee and then cleaned her room fast. Raid for the room and the access point.

    Insects are going to inherit the earth.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,942

    I have read thru this thread and learned a lot. Also @richardandtracy no clue about smoke attracting lightning. Thanks everybody. The problem with powdery bait is the breeze does hit the backyard most days especially about 3-4pm. And anything powdery would end up ieverywhere . . . in the aviary and the dog run. I have tried every ant "destroys queen and colony" product and they keep coming back. I actually (bent over staring at the sidewalk cracks, looked like an idiot) traced ants down the road two houses away and just thought what the heck? I have also traced them across the fence into the neighbors yard on the other side. Two years ago I bought lavendar foot spa salt, a case of beer and 4 large cheap mouth wash because I read I could mix it all and spray as a mosquito deterrant (all items still unused). I guess there is no mosquito queen. But I try all of these tips you guys shared for the outdoor catios I am planning to built, so thank you.

    tsroemi said:

    You can try to scatter cinnamon where they're entering ...

    I might try taping down cinnamon sticks if I trace some to a closer spot. I never heard of Graves disease until now. It's so cool that we can share and find better ways to cope with issues. Society seems bent on appearing flawless when us humans are all so inperfect and all of us have issues that keep us awake and overthinking. My hubby seemed to be the only one I met that had no problems . . . until 15 years ago, after a failed simple surgery that grew into a nightmare. Eventually we all get or have burdens to carry, which at times seem so overwhelming and unfair. It's good to find people who will share solutions to ants and much bigger problems.

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I use Borax Powder but that's likely no good around birds

    Hmmm. I thought that was a detergent thingy. Bet that would be affective. I have found the only safe thing to use is and inch of dawn soap in a quart spray bottle of water. Luckily the aviary has concrete floor with a few drains Kills everything on the spot especially ants but I have to rinse with a hose immediately and the ones hiking to the avairy just find another route or wait until it dries. What if I mixed borax with water and sprayed it outside the aviary. I may test that out front first. I need a true Queen killer.

    SilverGirl said:

    powdered sugar and baking soda mixture can non-toxic take out ants but I'm not sure how safe it is around birds?

    I bet they would love that! So I googled it and apparently birds hate the texture so it deters them. In small amounts (like cinnamon) would be okay but the avairy is 24 foot long 7+ feet deep with a .5 inch gap at the bottom. Some birds when ill hang out at the bottom near floor lamps so I took three and put them in a cage on a stand within the aviary the next morning one of the three were gone cover in ants, They other two are inside recovering. And I put two Terro in a bowl in the cage. Killed a ton of ants but that queen still lives. How many Terros does it take to kill her. I have bought 3 12-packs and have only 3 baits left! Obviously it does not work or there are multiple Queens. Hope baby's butt is getting better!

    memcneil70 said:

    Insects are going to inherit the earth.

    I can't imagine being that allergic to mosquitoes. Remined me instantly of Pure Luck movie with Short & Glover (32 years ago) except  the movie was a comedy.  I'll googling coil burn. I bought the purple lit mosquito Zappers but do I want to cover/attract mosquitoes from 1/4 acre away? A month ago the fedex gal dropped a packet over the gate (not ours). I walked it next door and the neighbors had a ton of mosquitoes around an old xmas-tree-tub filled with algae water from a nearby sprinkler. Too far away to discreetely kick over. I left the packet by their door, came home and took the bait from the zapper. I am antiant but respect their work etchics. Mosquitoes are useless horrible mini-vampires. They really bother me, not so much my hubby. I wonder if they prefer Rh-Negative group AB blood. His is O Negative. Rh-negative is derived from the Rhesus monkey (mosquitoes love monkeys and primates) named due to similar antigens found in monkeys and other Primates. Right now my legs look like I'm a drug addict. 

    I think you may have a more accurate prediction than Nostradamus. Insects are going to inherit the earth . . . or the aviary. As you can see from the pic, I built it with a hal-inch gap at the bottom, needed for washing out seed. So, anything not bigger and solid, could seep in with wind, or water dripping from the plant watering system (internal & external). Plus I have internal misting system for really hot days. I'm a big believer in there is a silver lining in every dark cloud and I live by the motto "don't sweat the small stuff" with the exceptions mosquitoes & ants.

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048
    edited July 12

    I have read contradictory comments on the safety of borax on Google so cannot make a decision and wouldn't want to endanger your birds.

    How it kills insects is by suffocation as it blocks their breathing holes on their exoskeletons 

    if it wasn't in the aivary I would say sprinkle it around, I do in my pantry and outside all my doorways during ant season but I wouldn't sprinkle it in the aivery itself just in case

    if you are tracking ant trails then use it well away from the aivery to block the trail

    directly from Google's Ai summary 

    • Ant Control: While borax can be used to control ants, it's best to do so in a way that minimizes the risk to birds. For example, using bait stations or barriers around the birdcage is preferable to scattering borax powder. 

       

     

    that's just a snippet

    it gave a lengthy essay indeedsurprise 

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  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,822

    @ArtAngel Kiddo's tush is indeed much better for the moment, thanks. I managed to coax him into wearing a T-shirt and loose pants instead of his polarfleece footie jams, so he's been sweating less. The jams are a sensory comfort thing, so we'll see how long it lasts, but I'll take it while I've got it.

    Total sympathy on the ant problem, though. For me the only thing that worked was getting rid of my ex-. With no more half-eaten and spilled food (and dead mice) all over the basement (I kid you not, the entire room was 4 feet deep in refuse) they had no incentive to stay. Doesn't really work in your situation though. I wish you luck. Maybe they're an autonomous collective who have no queen? Have you tried putting a small sword in a nearby puddle of water and seeing if someone ges cocky?

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 2,203

    What about getting rid of the romaine lettuce?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048
    edited July 13

    SilverGirl NylonGirl I wonder how many other Girls we have, Member search is not great here, you need to know the name 

    I found https://www.daz3d.com/forums/profile/CatGirl

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,461

    SilverGirl said:

    @ArtAngel Kiddo's tush is indeed much better for the moment, thanks. I managed to coax him into wearing a T-shirt and loose pants instead of his polarfleece footie jams, so he's been sweating less. The jams are a sensory comfort thing, so we'll see how long it lasts, but I'll take it while I've got it.

    Total sympathy on the ant problem, though. For me the only thing that worked was getting rid of my ex-. With no more half-eaten and spilled food (and dead mice) all over the basement (I kid you not, the entire room was 4 feet deep in refuse) they had no incentive to stay. Doesn't really work in your situation though. I wish you luck. Maybe they're an autonomous collective who have no queen? Have you tried putting a small sword in a nearby puddle of water and seeing if someone ges cocky?

    Maybe try to shift him over to cotton flannels generally? Fleeces are all made of synthetic fibres as far as I know, I've never seen a natural variant unfortunately. But flannels can be so soft and comfy, maybe he could get used to them. 

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 2,203

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    SilverGirl NylonGirl I wonder how many other Girls we have, Member search is not great here, you need to know the name 

    I found https://www.daz3d.com/forums/profile/CatGirl

    A... fun fact... about me is I put the word "girl" in my screen name because they wouldn't let me use the word I normally use. Maybe a screen name search feature should be added to the Daz Deals browser extension.

    By the way, when I'm sleepless, I'm usually sleepless in... Kansas City.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048

    NylonGirl said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    SilverGirl NylonGirl I wonder how many other Girls we have, Member search is not great here, you need to know the name 

    I found https://www.daz3d.com/forums/profile/CatGirl

    A... fun fact... about me is I put the word "girl" in my screen name because they wouldn't let me use the word I normally use. Maybe a screen name search feature should be added to the Daz Deals browser extension.

    By the way, when I'm sleepless, I'm usually sleepless in... Kansas City.

    the mind boggles

    Nylon Stockings? Pantyhose? 

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