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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,452

    Well, I expect the easiest way would be to track down a hand goods store and see if they have classes that you could take pictures at? Or if there were magazines of 'How to ...' but the way you sit is also important. I have seen poses for handling objects that are just wrong for long-term work, or would put your back out immediately. I just had a flash image of Mabel sitting properly in a wing-back chair. That basic pose is a good one. My systems are down for the night, I will need to look it up. But it is the arms and hands that would need to be modified. Hand quilting in a hoop is different, you have to brace the hoop which is large and awkward, generally on a knee or something. On a large free-standing frame, you scoot your chair up, so one hand is under and the other is on top. The hand under would have a leather/metal thimble on it to push the needle back. And of course at a machine, depends on the machine: Commerical or home. Embroidery hoops vary, but again, one hand is holding, other plying the needle and thread. Or course you have the splitting the floss being split, threading the different needles, pulling a knot into a quilt batt, etc... Crochet hooks, require the thread or yarn to loop around the fingers on one hand, and tension kept by the other (?) if I remember correctly. And the hooks themselves are needed and vary in size from fine (numbers) for thread to thick (letters) for yarns. (I was taught with 00 size and thread and told by my grandmother if I stuck the hook into my arm, hand or finger, they would have to push it through. Can't pull it out, because it would pull out parts of my body. I was really careful.) Sewing at a machine at home, I don't think there are poses for that either. The machine might sit on top of, or be recessed into a table. The only modern sewing machine in the store is one for clothes and sits on top of the table. It is harder to work accurately on them. I prefer my desk models. But sewing machines are computerized now. So who knows. And there is also a need to be able to handle scissors to cut fabric and thread. We have those items in the store. Not sure if they can be put on fingers/hands.

    Richard, not sure if I scared you off or what. The ideas just kept coming.

    Thanks

    Mary

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,335

    I wasn't sure I could link the Renderosity crochet product but searching it should find it easily enough 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,301
    edited January 20

    Maybe I need to do what I know. Crossstitch...

    Here's one I started a few years ago & to my embarrasment I've largely stopped, only done a few hundred stitches in the last year. It's 52,000 stitches in out of 98,000, doing it on a roller frame:

    The photo isn't up-to date, as I've now finished chart pages 3-6, 10-12, 16-18 and am working on 9.

    It's a photo of our Maine Coon Gryff as a 6 month old kitten, who died in 2012 age just under 3. 

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,301
    edited January 20

    Would this sort of thing be of interest? Will need to model some fabric for it. Also needs tex mapping, for which I need a different machine.

    For the any embroidery that needs more than a 6" hoop, I tend to go for a frame. Can I ask, how do you embroider with a hoop? With the stitches in the well of the hoop, with the fabric coming up between the hoop rings, or with the fabric on the top surface diving down between the hoop rings? I do the latter, but know not everyone does.

    Modelling/representing the stitching on the fabric may be quite interesting. Possibly need a geoshell and normal map. Will have to play.

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • 4mm crochet hook obj file, not tex mapped, so just apply a plastic or metallic shader.

    Regards

    Richard

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  • DiscipleDisciple Posts: 178

    richardandtracy said:

    It's a photo of our Maine Coon Gryff as a 6 month old kitten, who died in 2012 age just under 3. 

    Sympathies regarding the untimely loss of your beautiful pet.

    Whenever a shadow crosses my peripheral vision at ground level, one of my neurons still signals, "Here comes kitty!" ...for over 40 years now.

    Hallelujah!
    Disciple

  • Thanks all for the crochet suggestions & the models

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    richardandtracy said:

    Would this sort of thing be of interest? Will need to model some fabric for it. Also needs tex mapping, for which I need a different machine.

    For the any embroidery that needs more than a 6" hoop, I tend to go for a frame. Can I ask, how do you embroider with a hoop? With the stitches in the well of the hoop, with the fabric coming up between the hoop rings, or with the fabric on the top surface diving down between the hoop rings? I do the latter, but know not everyone does.

    Modelling/representing the stitching on the fabric may be quite interesting. Possibly need a geoshell and normal map. Will have to play.

    Regards,

    Richard

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    Disciple said:

    richardandtracy said:

    It's a photo of our Maine Coon Gryff as a 6 month old kitten, who died in 2012 age just under 3. 

    Sympathies regarding the untimely loss of your beautiful pet.

    Whenever a shadow crosses my peripheral vision at ground level, one of my neurons still signals, "Here comes kitty!" ...for over 40 years now.

    Hallelujah!
    Disciple

    I think they come back across the Rainbow Bridge to visit us sometimes. :) 

    I was at a friend's house once, and I kept seeing a cat lurking around corners. I figured it was just shy. 

    "What's the kitty's name?" I asked.

    He gave me a sort of puzzled look. "What's it look like?"

    I figured maybe he had more than one, and described it.

    Turns out there were exactly zero cats living with him at the time, and the calico I described exactly matched a beloved who had crossed the Bridge years before. I had no idea about any of that. All I knew was I saw a cat. 

  • @Disciple, I tend to have the same. We've had rather a lot of cats over the years and I tend to think of most quite regularly and something moving at the edge of my vision makes me look for them.

    @SilverGirl, What you do is the same as I do, but I've seen others stitch with the fabric across the bottom of the inner ring. They said it protected the stitching while it was work in progress. I tried with a small one and found it more of a nuisance than a help, in all honesty.

    As for the cat.. Wow. My wife's had a few events a bit like that, but with people she loved who died in the last hour or so and lived miles away. It's disconcerting to get an inkling over how little we really know.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    richardandtracy said:

    As for the cat.. Wow. My wife's had a few events a bit like that, but with people she loved who died in the last hour or so and lived miles away. It's disconcerting to get an inkling over how little we really know.

    Another one of the odd-cool things I've experienced, pet related, that really could not be written off as anything else...

    My dad used to put plastic weatherproofing on the inside of the front window because it was so drafty. Well, childhood dog (about the size of a sheltie) had a habit of getting over-enthusiastic when the delivery truck came and he'd lunge at the window, feet up, ripping triangular holes in it. Drove my dad crazy because he kept having to patch it. Well, a year or so after our dog crossed the Bridge, there was a lot of road work in front of the house... and one day we came home after a family outing to discover two triangular holes in the sheeting, just as he'd always made. 

    I convinced Dad to put up a new sheet and give me that one to keep. Thirty years later, I still have it.

    ...and now, in this house, I have things nowhere near the edge of a counter or table go zipping off and falling to the floor when no one's anywhere near it. Teen Kiddo and I are both convinced it's our kitty who crossed two years ago. After all, why should being a spirit stop a cat from knocking things off the table?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,855

    SilverGirl said:

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

    That's how I do it too if I use a hoop.

  • edited January 21

    Leana said:

    SilverGirl said:

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

    That's how I do it too if I use a hoop.

    Me too (or 3). I've never thought of using a frame. I doubt I'd have room for it. The dogs take up most of the floor space. It's a small home

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  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Leana said:

    SilverGirl said:

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

    That's how I do it too if I use a hoop.

    Me too (or 3). I've never thought of using a frame. I doubt I'd have room for it. The dogs take up most of the floor space. It's a small home

    Mine isn't a large at all; it fits comfortably on my lap while sitting in an armchair. If I had to guess, maybe two feet across and one foot from top to bottom? No floor stand to support it; I can't imagine my back or neck would put up with that LOL. If you look up laptop scroll frames, there are various options, all much nicer than mine (purchased in the early 90's, it looks like something that came out of an 8th grade shop class and got a B-, but it gets the job done).

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,452

    SilverGirl said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Leana said:

    SilverGirl said:

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

    That's how I do it too if I use a hoop.

    Me too (or 3). I've never thought of using a frame. I doubt I'd have room for it. The dogs take up most of the floor space. It's a small home

    Mine isn't a large at all; it fits comfortably on my lap while sitting in an armchair. If I had to guess, maybe two feet across and one foot from top to bottom? No floor stand to support it; I can't imagine my back or neck would put up with that LOL. If you look up laptop scroll frames, there are various options, all much nicer than mine (purchased in the early 90's, it looks like something that came out of an 8th grade shop class and got a B-, but it gets the job done).

    The frame reference is more for a quilting frame that has legs, where a group of women might gather round, say at a church room, or any large common room, to hand quilt a pieced or appliqued top, batt, and bottom fabric together for one of them or for a charity project gift. For my smaller hand quilted items I used a round hoop upto 18" to 24" in diameter to keep the layers together. Machine quilted at home, well, large safety pins and my hands did the job. Of course there are commercial quilting machines now that can do all this too. Embroidery, I did as all of you do. 

  • I hold an 18" x 12" roller frame in my left hand and do the stitching with my right, flipping the frame over only when I need to start or stop a thread. After a hundred odd stitches in a day, my left shoulder really feels it. Using the number of colours I use, the mat on the back can get up to 2mm thick where I go from one stitch of the colour to another but I try to keep it under 1.5" when moving across to another location for the same colour. As most of the threads are blended (two different thread colours to fool the eye into seeing a third more accurate colour), I generally can't do loop starts, but the mat is usually thick enough to do an 'under 3, back over 1 and under 2' type start into the mat only.

    I've tried multiple needles, one for each colour, and then work down a chart column (say 10 stitches wide) but.. I can't cope with the numbers of colours at the same time and loose track of which needle has which colour. Instead I try to do half a chart page at a time.

    I've never used a stand - it's a bit of an admission that I'm serious about it, and that would really never do.

    I've also never done 'real' embroidery. There is a real history in England of it, to the extent Mediaeval work has its own name, 'Opus Anglicanum' or 'English Work'. My great aunt did her City & Guilds in it in 1918 and I have the work even today. Stunning, she embroidered some areas in hair as silk wasn't fine enough.

    Anyway. I think I have talked myself into something to do this weekend.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    memcneil70 said:

    SilverGirl said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Leana said:

    SilverGirl said:

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

    That's how I do it too if I use a hoop.

    Me too (or 3). I've never thought of using a frame. I doubt I'd have room for it. The dogs take up most of the floor space. It's a small home

    Mine isn't a large at all; it fits comfortably on my lap while sitting in an armchair. If I had to guess, maybe two feet across and one foot from top to bottom? No floor stand to support it; I can't imagine my back or neck would put up with that LOL. If you look up laptop scroll frames, there are various options, all much nicer than mine (purchased in the early 90's, it looks like something that came out of an 8th grade shop class and got a B-, but it gets the job done).

    The frame reference is more for a quilting frame that has legs, where a group of women might gather round, say at a church room, or any large common room, to hand quilt a pieced or appliqued top, batt, and bottom fabric together for one of them or for a charity project gift. 

    Fair! I actually worked on one of those a couple times at a little historic farm about 15 minutes from my parents' place... it took up the entire parlor. The era of 1800's American homesteading isn't really my groove, but I was 13 and it was the one historical recreation my parents were willing to drive me to and drop me off at. I'm not sure that'd fly these days but I guess since that was babysitting age (and then some) nobody really blinked about it back then. 

    I forget how many years that thing had been in progress as a demonstration, but it was neat to think I'd left a little of my love in there too. 

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,452

    SilverGirl said:

    memcneil70 said:

    SilverGirl said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Leana said:

    SilverGirl said:

    I was taught to put the inner ring on the underside of the fabric and to put the outer ring on the top, so the extra fabric hangs down. I tend to use a frame more than a hoop, though, because it doesn't squish/deform (and possibly stain) the fabric and stitches. (Full disclosure that I haven't done needlework of any sort in years.)

    That's how I do it too if I use a hoop.

    Me too (or 3). I've never thought of using a frame. I doubt I'd have room for it. The dogs take up most of the floor space. It's a small home

    Mine isn't a large at all; it fits comfortably on my lap while sitting in an armchair. If I had to guess, maybe two feet across and one foot from top to bottom? No floor stand to support it; I can't imagine my back or neck would put up with that LOL. If you look up laptop scroll frames, there are various options, all much nicer than mine (purchased in the early 90's, it looks like something that came out of an 8th grade shop class and got a B-, but it gets the job done).

    The frame reference is more for a quilting frame that has legs, where a group of women might gather round, say at a church room, or any large common room, to hand quilt a pieced or appliqued top, batt, and bottom fabric together for one of them or for a charity project gift. 

    Fair! I actually worked on one of those a couple times at a little historic farm about 15 minutes from my parents' place... it took up the entire parlor. The era of 1800's American homesteading isn't really my groove, but I was 13 and it was the one historical recreation my parents were willing to drive me to and drop me off at. I'm not sure that'd fly these days but I guess since that was babysitting age (and then some) nobody really blinked about it back then. 

    I forget how many years that thing had been in progress as a demonstration, but it was neat to think I'd left a little of my love in there too. 

    This is an example of how generations of 'whatever' stretch in weird ways. My mother's mother married at age 14 in 1904, had 12 children never seeing a hospital, but giving birth in her home of the time, and making do with whatever she had. Burying two babies before they were a year old. 1800's homesteading was still going strong her region of both sides of the Arkansas River and later in southern New Mexico where they moved in the late 1930s. Think cabins and growing, raising, hunting, and fishing for food. Quilts made from old clothes too worn out to hand down to younger children. Polio, scarlett fever, and all the diseases we fought against since and they had no defenses for then. Yet many in my mother's generation, the greatest generation, turned away from quilting and went for 'store bought linens'. It was their children who had to turn to grandparents, or books in my case, to recover lost skills. It was my father's mother, who was a half-generation younger and from a well-off family who taught me what was considered 'fancy work for ladies', embroidery, crochet, knitting (never took to it), needlepoint, and rughooking (know theory). My mother did teach me sewing, how to make a mouse house and gave me free access to her book collection! Screw the Public Library who said I was too young to read those books.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,403

    Trying not to disrupt the animated discussion of needle point technique, but today's 30% off offer does indeed make OS irresistable. 

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    memcneil70 said:

    Screw the Public Library who said I was too young to read those books.

    What the what??? Your public library sucked. Mine had librarians that were entirely enthusiastic about helping kids find whatever "weird" stack of books their heart desired, and order it interlibrary if they didn't have it in.

  • joannajoanna Posts: 2,349

    Torquinox said:

    Trying not to disrupt the animated discussion of needle point technique, but today's 30% off offer does indeed make OS irresistable. 

    I actually resisted. :D But it was a close call, I admit. The offer is good. I'm just not in the super-spending mood, so I'll be just grabbing the few QG items that are sitting in my cart since Monday, and will probably wait to be checked out on Sunday anyway.

    Buuut, since you mention it... Maybe I'll give OS another look? 

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 689

    Torquinox said:

    Trying not to disrupt the animated discussion of needle point technique, but today's 30% off offer does indeed make OS irresistable. 

     Thanks for mentioning this!  I almost missed it.

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    joanna said:

    Torquinox said:

    Trying not to disrupt the animated discussion of needle point technique, but today's 30% off offer does indeed make OS irresistable. 

    I actually resisted. :D But it was a close call, I admit. The offer is good. I'm just not in the super-spending mood, so I'll be just grabbing the few QG items that are sitting in my cart since Monday, and will probably wait to be checked out on Sunday anyway.

    Buuut, since you mention it... Maybe I'll give OS another look? 

    I resisted. The buy-in wasn't cancelled out by the savings, so no point. Glad for those who got a good bargain though. :) 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,403

    I haven't committed to a cart yet. I know there are enough items for me to have a party, but I'd also end up spending $50 with the membership to make the numbers work. Not sure I want to, pretty sure I don't!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,335

    I actually just joined DAZ+ monthly  because I wanted a new hair and 3 outlet things on my wishlist surprise

    it works out a bit cheaper 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,524
    edited January 24

    Most interesting handicraft discussions here! And I loved your stories about your ghostly pets, @SilverGirl. Had two beautiful German Giant rabbits dying just before and after New Year, so could use some comfort in that area.

    Concerning the outlet sale, I've kept a cart sitting for some time now as well, as I much like the curly 'Princess Petra' hair that came out a few days ago (https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-princess-series-roman-curl ), and I now want to use it for the Outlet sale. But I'm not as enthusiastic as I thought I'd be, so much stuff is just so samey, I feel. Like, there's probably dozens of 'hacker hideout rooms', and they all have they same take on the matter. Same with clothes (just how many 'sexy (welll...) maid uniforms' do we have now?) and hair. There seems to be a lot of variety to choose from, but when you take a closer look, much of it isn't really that different, and you find that you own one form or another of 80% of it anyway.

    It's kinda sad, I keep thinking of the amazing stuff people with the abilities of our PAs could create if only they ... would. And I keep chugging stuff out of the cart a minute after I put it in. 

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  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,132

    tsroemi said:

    And I loved your stories about your ghostly pets, @SilverGirl. Had two beautiful German Giant rabbits dying just before and after New Year, so could use some comfort in that area.

     

    I'm so sorry. There's never an easy time for that heartbreak.

    Also for what it's worth, in addition to all the stuff leaping off tables, and other occasional such things with no reasonable earthly explanation... I made sure my Little Dude didn't witness our beloved cat's crossing (it happened at home naturally and was clear when it was time) nor the final journey of his physical form out of the house in his favorite box. I thought it would just be too traumatic for him to see that. I was braced to have to explain it to him as best I could.

    ....but I never had to. For all I can tell, he hasn't noticed an interruption in service, which is saying something for a small person who's extremely dependent on routines and sameness. He still says the cat's name when he's telling me about things (often the cat's name is the only word I can pick out as identifiable, so no idea what the rest of it is about, except that it seems amused/happy) or will look at one of the cat's favorite spots to hang out and laugh, though there's nothing there I can see. He has so many extra struggles, but I think that ability to see all of the world as it is, and not just the parts we have been trained to allow ourselves to notice, is truly a gift. 

    I've no doubt your rabbits are similarly present, and glad for the extra time with you. heart Maybe ask them to visit in dreams so you can see them better? 

  • joannajoanna Posts: 2,349

    I decided to pick up a few of Outlet items before the month ends, and it's still cheaper to just get them than use the coupon and cheapest new release. But I can see how someone who wants to go on an Outlet shopping spree could get a really good deal out of that offer.

  • jjoynerjjoyner Posts: 765
    edited January 25

    The least expensive New Release item over $1 is $5.  With a 30% discount, you’d need to spend $16.67 in the Outlet store to cover the $5 that you spent.

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