The I Wanted Mousse But Got A Moose Instead Complaint Thread.

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:

    watching witcher playthrough here.  running around a swamp, silver sword out, killing kikimoors
    run into bandits, switch to steel sword, 

    Bandits aren't worth the fine dinnerware?   laugh

    Dana

    silver swords are more of an undead thing, you wouldn't expect the. to work on the living :)

    I don't know...being pierced with a sharp sword would hurt no matter what it's made of.  You mean if a silver sword pierced your heart or lung, it wouldn't kill you because it's silver?

    Dana

    Yeah. but bandits would want to steal the silver swords but they wouldn't steal the steel swords.  By the seashore.

    undead usually aren't armoured but bandits might be so you use the steel sword on them, assuming they don't steal it first :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:

    watching witcher playthrough here.  running around a swamp, silver sword out, killing kikimoors
    run into bandits, switch to steel sword, 

    Bandits aren't worth the fine dinnerware?   laugh

    Dana

    silver swords are more of an undead thing, you wouldn't expect the. to work on the living :)

    I don't know...being pierced with a sharp sword would hurt no matter what it's made of.  You mean if a silver sword pierced your heart or lung, it wouldn't kill you because it's silver?

    Dana

    Yeah. but bandits would want to steal the silver swords but they wouldn't steal the steel swords.  By the seashore.

    undead usually aren't armoured but bandits might be so you use the steel sword on them, assuming they don't steal it first :)

     

    +10 armour piercing :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    I am trying to write an urban fantasy novel but it is hard to write it with DS.  I want to play in DS instead of write.

     

    edit: there is a naked girl on my screen as I am having difficulty getting the CMS to work right.

     

    make it a graphic novel?

    with naked girls smiley

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited June 2016

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    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

    Post edited by ps1borg on
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    saying nuh-uh to watching fallout4 playthroughs!!!!!!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

    digital tv is still free here, not that I can see it where I am we haz to use a sattelite dish the past 20 years or so :)

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,638
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

    digital tv is still free here, not that I can see it where I am we haz to use a sattelite dish the past 20 years or so :)

    Still free, but no longer analog here.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,303
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    ...looks like everyone else is gettng the rain we usually do.  Hoping Annie and Ed are OK.

    She was on Facebook early this morning.  I haven'g been on, but got a notice she shared something that I posted.  This was around 8:45 this am...probably my time, so maybe an hour earlier in Texas.  Strangely they are one hour behind us in time zone somehow.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,303
    Tjohn said:
    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:

    watching witcher playthrough here.  running around a swamp, silver sword out, killing kikimoors
    run into bandits, switch to steel sword, 

    Bandits aren't worth the fine dinnerware?   laugh

    Dana

    silver swords are more of an undead thing, you wouldn't expect the. to work on the living :)

    I don't know...being pierced with a sharp sword would hurt no matter what it's made of.  You mean if a silver sword pierced your heart or lung, it wouldn't kill you because it's silver?

    Dana

    Yeah. but bandits would want to steal the silver swords but they wouldn't steal the steel swords.  By the seashore.

    I wonder if that hurt when he did that?  laugh

    Dana

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,305
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,893
    edited June 2016

    Complaint:  I had ordered a new 2TB hard drive to replace a 1TB drive in one of my external enclosures.  Everything was hunky-dory until I plugged the new drive into my 7-port USB hub.  It should have worked.  But didn't.  Then I discovered that none of the 6 (yes, six) drives plugged into that USB hub were now working.  After crawling under the desk, checking cables, and power I started methodical diagnosis.  I determined that if each of the six drives were one-by-one plugged into one of the front panel USB ports the drives each worked OK.  (whew !!) So it had to be either the USB hub or the up-connection cable. or the backside USB port on my computer, which meant more crawling under the desk.  I was almost about to brave the dust and spiders again but decided to test the hub itself a little more carefully.  I eventually determined that I could get three drives and the up-connection to work and then reasoned that inside the USB hub there must be two chips each driving four ports (7-downports and 1 up-port) and sure enough the four ports that are functional are all grouped together at one end of the hub.  So I guess I blew a chip.  I suppose that's OK, the hub is about 8 years old.  However, I'd have expected Belkin products to be a little hardier based on the price I had to pay for it.  Then I had to explain why, at one point, none of the drives were working.  I suspect that if a drive is plugged into one of the bad ports, it boogers up and jams the data bus in the hub.  But if those ports are empty then the other four work?.  Good enough explanation.  But I'm happy because I can continue my work because I don't need all 6 external drives active at one time much anymore, it just saves playing musical cables,  but I really should start looking for another 7-port hub.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

    digital tv is still free here, not that I can see it where I am we haz to use a sattelite dish the past 20 years or so :)

    Still free, but no longer analog here.

    We're surrounded by office and apartment towers that bend the free-to-air channels out of shape, especially when you try to record and time shift a program, the satellite works fine so long as it doesn't rain much XD

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    DanaTA said:
    kyoto kid said:
    MistyMist said:

    ...looks like everyone else is gettng the rain we usually do.  Hoping Annie and Ed are OK.

    She was on Facebook early this morning.  I haven'g been on, but got a notice she shared something that I posted.  This was around 8:45 this am...probably my time, so maybe an hour earlier in Texas.  Strangely they are one hour behind us in time zone somehow.

    Dana

    Is always tomorrow here, relative to you

     

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

     

    If you think about it attenuation might sound like a skateboard moving on a concrete slope, doppler and all ?

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    MistyMist said:

    I am trying to write an urban fantasy novel but it is hard to write it with DS.  I want to play in DS instead of write.

     

    edit: there is a naked girl on my screen as I am having difficulty getting the CMS to work right.

     

    make it a graphic novel?

    with naked girls smiley

    Graphic like WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES OF ... ?

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,893
    edited June 2016

    'Nother complaint:  I've decided to take my Vista machine and convert it to a Win7 machine.  But I don't want to lose my Vista configuration.  So I completely removed my Vista hard drive temporarily and replaced it with a brand new 1TB empty hard drive and used my remaining unactivated Windows7 OEM installation disk to install Win7-SP1.  Worked great, installed quickly without problems except it doesn't yet recognize my video board and has defaulted to a basic video setup but I can get 1440x900 resolution so it's workable for now.  HOWEVER, after checking that it had access to the internet I told it to start performing Windows updates and it just sits there saying it's checking for updates.  the performance meter shows one processor 95-100% busy and the other processor about 5-10% busy.  I've left the machine on hoping that it will eventually do some downloading but now it just sits there being quietly busy without any visible results.  Is this normal? 

    PS: after virgin installation of Win7 it had InternetExplorer8 installed.  I couldn't get WindowsUpdate to work so I manually went to the Microsoft site and downloaded InternetExplorer11 which installed along with a bunch of needed updates and is working fine but I still can't seem to get a reasonable behavior out of WindowsUpdate..  I checked on the Internet and there are reports of similar behavior and some things to try but nothing definitive and the one patch that was suggested refused to run on my machine (says: "not for my machine").  Some people said they just waited it out.  So that's what I'm going to do. 

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

     

    If you think about it attenuation might sound like a skateboard moving on a concrete slope, doppler and all ?

     

    tee hee
    so if the train leaves its station and the other train leaves its station
    and the trains meet,
    then how fast were they moving?
     

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,893
    edited June 2016
    ps1borg said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

    digital tv is still free here, not that I can see it where I am we haz to use a sattelite dish the past 20 years or so :)

    Still free, but no longer analog here.

    We're surrounded by office and apartment towers that bend the free-to-air channels out of shape, especially when you try to record and time shift a program, the satellite works fine so long as it doesn't rain much XD

    This little town is 60 miles from Buffalo and down in a valley so the only people who get good broadcast TV are those with VERY tall antennas or those who live on the hills.  When I was a kid (in the '50s & early '60s) we got one channel OK, a second with snow, and a third in a continual blizzard.  Then TV cable came to town, then eventually satellite TV. Nowdays everybody has marvelous HD big screen entertainment.  Analog broadcast is gone but digital broadcast from Buffalo is available but still not practical for this town. 

    But do you remember (or still experience) rapid ghosting and flashing when an airplane bounces the signal as it crosses the path?

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,303
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

     

    If you think about it attenuation might sound like a skateboard moving on a concrete slope, doppler and all ?

     

    tee hee
    so if the train leaves its station and the other train leaves its station
    and the trains meet,
    then how fast were they moving?
     

    Just fast enough!  laugh

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,303

    Complaint:  I had ordered a new 2TB hard drive to replace a 1TB drive in one of my external enclosures.  Everything was hunky-dory until I plugged the new drive into my 7-port USB hub.  It should have worked.  But didn't.  Then I discovered that none of the 6 (yes, six) drives plugged into that USB hub were now working.  After crawling under the desk, checking cables, and power I started methodical diagnosis.  I determined that if each of the six drives were one-by-one plugged into one of the front panel USB ports the drives each worked OK.  (whew !!) So it had to be either the USB hub or the up-connection cable. or the backside USB port on my computer, which meant more crawling under the desk.  I was almost about to brave the dust and spiders again but decided to test the hub itself a little more carefully.  I eventually determined that I could get three drives and the up-connection to work and then reasoned that inside the USB hub there must be two chips each driving four ports (7-downports and 1 up-port) and sure enough the four ports that are functional are all grouped together at one end of the hub.  So I guess I blew a chip.  I suppose that's OK, the hub is about 8 years old.  However, I'd have expected Belkin products to be a little hardier based on the price I had to pay for it.  Then I had to explain why, at one point, none of the drives were working.  I suspect that if a drive is plugged into one of the bad ports, it boogers up and jams the data bus in the hub.  But if those ports are empty then the other four work?.  Good enough explanation.  But I'm happy because I can continue my work because I don't need all 6 external drives active at one time much anymore, it just saves playing musical cables,  but I really should start looking for another 7-port hub.

    Do you have USB 3.0?  New stuff is usually built on the USB 3.0 spec, these days.  I think I still have USB 2.0 in my box.  3 is supposed to be much faster, something you'd want especially with a hard drive.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,303
    ps1borg said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

    digital tv is still free here, not that I can see it where I am we haz to use a sattelite dish the past 20 years or so :)

    Still free, but no longer analog here.

    We're surrounded by office and apartment towers that bend the free-to-air channels out of shape, especially when you try to record and time shift a program, the satellite works fine so long as it doesn't rain much XD

    This little town is 60 miles from Buffalo and down in a valley so the only people who get good broadcast TV are those with VERY tall antennas or those who live on the hills.  When I was a kid (in the '50s & early '60s) we got one channel OK, a second with snow, and a third in a continual blizzard.  Then TV cable came to town, then eventually satellite TV. Nowdays everybody has marvelous HD big screen entertainment.  Analog broadcast is gone but digital broadcast from Buffalo is available but still not practical for this town. 

    But do you remember (or still experience) rapid ghosting and flashing when an airplane bounces the signal as it crosses the path?

     

    Oh, yeah.  I remember that!  I remember seeing the ghost of a different channel overlaid on the channel I was watching, too.  I think that happened more with UHF in the early days, but not sure...it's been a long time.

    Dana

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

     

    If you think about it attenuation might sound like a skateboard moving on a concrete slope, doppler and all ?

     

    tee hee
    so if the train leaves its station and the other train leaves its station
    and the trains meet,
    then how fast were they moving?
     

     

    Was that a scene in The Matrix ?

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited June 2016
    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

    digital tv is still free here, not that I can see it where I am we haz to use a sattelite dish the past 20 years or so :)

    Still free, but no longer analog here.

    We're surrounded by office and apartment towers that bend the free-to-air channels out of shape, especially when you try to record and time shift a program, the satellite works fine so long as it doesn't rain much XD

    This little town is 60 miles from Buffalo and down in a valley so the only people who get good broadcast TV are those with VERY tall antennas or those who live on the hills.  When I was a kid (in the '50s & early '60s) we got one channel OK, a second with snow, and a third in a continual blizzard.  Then TV cable came to town, then eventually satellite TV. Nowdays everybody has marvelous HD big screen entertainment.  Analog broadcast is gone but digital broadcast from Buffalo is available but still not practical for this town. 

    But do you remember (or still experience) rapid ghosting and flashing when an airplane bounces the signal as it crosses the path?

     

    Oh, yeah.  I remember that!  I remember seeing the ghost of a different channel overlaid on the channel I was watching, too.  I think that happened more with UHF in the early days, but not sure...it's been a long time.

    Dana

     

    That explains a lot :) The old analogue signals would bounce around in atmosphere, and off water, as well so on a cloudy night you could hear radio from China, perhaps you still can

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    Tjohn said:

    poor guy

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,601
    Tjohn said:
    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:

    watching witcher playthrough here.  running around a swamp, silver sword out, killing kikimoors
    run into bandits, switch to steel sword, 

    Bandits aren't worth the fine dinnerware?   laugh

    Dana

    silver swords are more of an undead thing, you wouldn't expect the. to work on the living :)

    I don't know...being pierced with a sharp sword would hurt no matter what it's made of.  You mean if a silver sword pierced your heart or lung, it wouldn't kill you because it's silver?

    Dana

    Yeah. but bandits would want to steal the silver swords but they wouldn't steal the steel swords.  By the seashore.

    ...me after a 12 oz cup of Turkish Coffee. (and yes, I did drink one)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,601
    ps1borg said:
    Tjohn said:

    got rid of that awful roommate and now I got a new roommate but I do not know her yet.   Hopefully the new one will be better.

     

    Having difficulty signing into Word so I can go back to writing my book.  I am either thinking of calling it "new face" or "Zombie lifes matter"

     

    Edit Guess Zombie lives matter already became a meme.  Oh well.

    A little worried that you started with "got rid of that awful roommate" and ended up with zombies.

    Oh guess I rather deal with a zombie apocalypse than that girl.  At least the zombies won't lie that they want to play with your head or eat your brains.

    is easier when all you need iz a few silver bullets and a clove or two of garlic :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,601
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    DanaTA said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the sound of attenuation?

    Diminishing retunes?

    Victor Borge would have asked "What is the sound of aelevenuation?"

     

     

    Is that like the number 11 on Marshall Amp dials?

     

    sound of attenuation not louder than the sound of a generator test run?

    Attenuation is the act of reducing sound.  In other words, turning down the volume!!!  Attenuation in itself makes no sound at all, it has an effect on the sound coming from something.  The term is usually used in electronics, namely amplifiers and mixers.  Sound technicians use the word attenuator where everyday people would say volume control.

    Dana

    Wouldn't that technically be the inverse of a volume control?

    Depends on where your "normal" is.  If the signal being controlled is normally permitted through at functional levels, then you might design your equipment to "attenuate" the signal to achieve a desired effect or to match the levels of other less powerful inputs.  I've seen "Attenuation" in powers of 10 or in decibels implemented as discrete switches.  However, there's nothing to prevent it being a continuous control instead of discrete.

    One could argue that volume/amplification/attenuation are matters of semantics but I'm sure there are experts out there who know the accepted lingo better than I. 

    However if you look at the basic concept of a signal it has three primary controllable aspects; Amplitude, Frequency, and Phase.  Each aspect can be modified separately.  The terms "Attenuation" and "Amplification" would seem to be applicable to the Amplitude but not the Frequency or Phase.  Whereas the Phase is "shifted" and the Frequency is "Increased/Decreased???"

     

    My understanding is attenuation always applies to amplitude, for example when daylight is attenuated by dust it gets darker, when clouds clear it gets lighter, irrespective of any phase or frequency shift   :) So a poesis of amplitude would be dawn, or dusk.

     

    the day analog public   broadcast signal died

     

    If you think about it attenuation might sound like a skateboard moving on a concrete slope, doppler and all ?

     

    tee hee
    so if the train leaves its station and the other train leaves its station
    and the trains meet,
    then how fast were they moving?
     

    ..if they were Amtrak Trains in Ohio, at best 10 - 12 mph.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,601
    edited June 2016

    ...workstation is off for the next couple days, 100° temps not healthy to rendering.

    Not pleased with the city on a couple accounts tonight

    For one, they misprinted the festival schedule schedule.  Apparently the fireworks were last Friday, even though the festival just started today. Went all the way down there for nothing.  I want my bus fare back.

    More seriously though, a school where a friend of mine teaches was found to have dangerous concentrations of lead in it's water system.  Most likely has been like that for decades. Nice they finally told the staff that the other day. 

    Why is it that are people who are supposed to be so smart act so stupid?

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  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    kyoto kid said:
    Petercat said:
    ps1borg said:

    This idea really took off hey

     

    And now we have Amazon Drones. Gonna get awfully crowdwd up there, and ugly. When you can't take a photo of the scenery without drones in the sky, it will be time to leave. Somehow. To somewhere.

    ...you could always get one of these:

     

    But then the scenery would be littered with dead drones. And they aren't biodegradable.

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