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A new system breaking many things without adding significant improvements would be a poor choice indeed. Let's hope they go with an improved 4.10 then!
Or a 5.0 with proper dynamics and soft body control, that would be worth a little pain to get.
Staying with 4.8. I don't use Studio for straigh up renders (just as props for drawing painting reference). While I do like the abilities of IRay in 4.8, there is little that 4.9 will do to improve my workflow and the down side is it comes with a lot of other things with overhead that are useless to me (like Connect and the looming dawn of encrypted products). If at some point some features are introduced that may make me want to upgrade to a higher version of Studio, I'll just upgrade, ignore Connect and won't buy any encrypted products.
Adobe shouldn't be held up as a model by anyone. A lot of professional artists that use Photoshop and Illustrator have moved away from Adobe because of that "extortionist" rental approach they implemented. I sincerely hope DAZ does not move in that direction. When you buy brushes and paint you dont have to pay rent on them-- artistic software (including 3D software) should be the same. If I buy it--it's mine to use as long as I like without having to worry that I have to make a payment. I stopped using Adobe products because I will not support their moronic money grab. Hopefully DAZ is not thinking of going anywhere near that model (they are already seeing enough fallout from encryption).
"A lot of professional artists that use Photoshop and Illustrator have moved away from Adobe because of that "extortionist" rental approach they implemented." While at the same time opening up use of the program to scores of people who wouldn't have been able to afford the price of admission without the low cost rental.
...where I do see the subscrtiption model Adobe has working is for those intuitive souls (like myself) who want to learn the software in their spare time (without having attend and pay tuition at a college or art school, or shell out 700$ - 2,000$ up front) with the intent of putting it on the resume and building a portfolio to get employed.
I do understand the affordability angle with Adobe products, but Adobe didn't introduce that business model to help people who couldn't afford it (as noble as that makes them sound). They did it to stabilize their revenue stream and cut down on promotion costs for new versions (while holding artists and organizations heavily invested in their product hostage). I have Photoshop CS6 and that will be the last version my machine will ever see. In any case--this is off topic as at this point there is no indication Studio is going in that direction (at least I hope not). Like I've said elsewhere on these forums before--I tend not to debate these things at length, I vote with my wallet.
...oh I know. Just that this is a good way for some of us to take advantage of it who could never afford to before. Personally, I would still rather have a perpetual licence.
Aa to off topic, I still think it relates as PS/CS in the cloud is a model I for one hope not to see here at for Daz since the base application it does not cost hundreds.
Whilst I can see why professionals may need access to this software, and so will pay out 50$ a month for PS, I am confused why a private individual does. Gimp (and other graphic packages) is free, and does largely the same things as PS. I can only assume many people are used to the PS interface, and have no wish to learn another one.
Hear that banging sound? That is the sound of my head banging against a desk as for the umpteenth time someone/s brings up this "model" as even nominally possible in a store like this. Where I need I remind you the company owns less than half the product and the rest is owned by 300 other individuals. Nor are the prices/products even nominally standardized. It wouldn't be just going to a new model it would mean investing a small fortune in new accounting concepts and reorganizing everything in the store for some level of continuity as far as product size and pricing. And a very high risk that they and PA's would make less money over all with a subscription service.
PS only costs around $10 a month. That's not much more than PC+ for what is still the standard graphics program (and needed to run the many brushes, patterns, etc. out there afaik.) I'm pretty sure it's less than most of us spend at the Daz Store per month, too. It's less than going to the cinema once for 2 hours. If you really enjoy creating/editing 2D content and like using Photoshop, even as entertainment only budgeting that's a good deal.
GIMP does do almost everything that Photoshop does (all of the other graphic packages fell short that I tested) but personally I found that while I could do almost all of the same things, nearly all of them took considerably more steps and effort, whereas PS just had the right commands and actions happening by itself. GIMP is still an amazing thing for us to have, but it's not nearly as refined as PS.
Can we drop the Adobe discussion please? it bears no resemblance to what Daz is doing and serves only to confuse the issue.
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