No encrypted for me.
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It's the first listing in the "Content Directory Manager" settings in Studio. Press F2 or "Edit>Preferences" in the main toolbar. Click the "Content Library" tab.Then click the big button on the bottom labeled "Content Directory Manager"
Sorry to see you go Ivy
I am a tad more passive in my objections and try to make lemonade from lemons where I can
certainly a lot of what I post disappears too
is sad because a forum is the place to discuss software and products not facebook or worse youtube but sometimes those options the only ones left
#%^@$&*&*%$@54@%&*$&*@%$
The C: drive? AGAIN?
This is the kind of information that DAZ SHOULD BE PUBLISHING IN A USER'S MANUAL!
Now I know why my test computer went to #$^&#&^$& pot.
I don't think so. Why wouldn't meta data for each product trigger like products to show in suggestions? The products and their metadata are in your studio, DAZ isn't accessing them to analyze them, the meta data's job is to identify what that product has. (Meta data can vary, so frankly I am guessing here. It can only be the author, or it can be wht the product is, such as plant, tree, African, etc) The Studio probably has a script to read the meta data of items in your scene. That's it.
For me, when an employee says "Very purposefully" then I have no reason to doubt his sincerity or his honesty. I know you weren't insinuating anything about either of those, just questioning how this works, which is understandable. My guess is meta data. Perhaps one of the folks in the know could answer that for both of us
Go to Products in Content Library for Lyndsey. In my Art Studio thread, I discussed how the Medieval Storage product DIDN'T show up in Content Library's Products (Connect items do, even encrypted) so this image will show you where I found it in Smart Content. (look at image, near the end of the post, after where I wrote "Edit") There's also some renders of Lynsey. (And with Uma.) And I rendered the Medieval Storage Room too.
I'm glad someone brought this up.
Actually you may notice when you first open the store tab that it takes a while go get loaded. This is the little web browser for the store tab downloading a bunch of javascript data in order to be able to filter inside of the little tab instead of sending requests off to the server. We spent a decent amount of extra time building this system so it could filter the categories down without transmitting any data because our user's privacy is more important than possibly getting some better suggestions in there. The one caveat to that is if you type something in to the search box there and search it does make a request to the server to fetch that data.
I do hope that people are seeing a pattern in the responses we have here, where the truth is far less scary than the wild guesses and assumptions that people are making.
Now that my rage has subsided...
What happens if I change the location of the Cloud directory? Is that going to move the files to the new location (you know, like somewhere it won't crash my system?) or do I now need to do a complete uninstall and reinstall?
You're correct that this is going to be more difficult with DAZ Connect installed products. I guess you could set up a texture directory which has a link to each texture dir in the connect hierarchy, and then browse through that
And to explain why I am so pissed off right now... SINCE DAZ DOESN'T SEEM TO GET IT...
My C drive is part of a partitioned 500 GB SSD. The only things installed on it are my operating system and some essential files that I need to have backed up regularly.
Filling this drive up causes my system to crash. I really wish DAZ would understand that an option to PICK A $##^$& DRIVE would be preferable to indescriminately installing to the C drive.
Well my cloud folder is on my E drive in my documents
so it is doable
I am not keen on connect and cannot use it with my softwares Carrara and Poser but for what it is worth you do not have to have it on your C drive
This how I move content libraries
1) move the Connect directory from it's current location to the location you want it to live in.
2) Start Studio and edit the path to the new location in the CDM settings.
3) re-import metadata. (This step may no longer be needed, but I do it anyway.)
4) restart Studio to refresh the UI.
Okay folks, please read this post (don't want to duplicate in various threads) as my custom categories all went POOF after being there ever since I installed this version. (NOT the beta, the regular release.) So now I can not in good faith recommend this for people with custom categories.
IMO, 4.9 has made it easier for piracy. Once they crack the program itself, it would be easy to make it think you own everything.
Step #3 and #4 shouldn't be necessary, there is a little reload icon in smart content that will let it refresh without restarting and Daz Connect can find files in any of your mapped paths.
If you move DIM installed content between paths you do have to reimport all the metadata and restart Studio though, but as long as it is Daz Connect stuff only it won't be a problem and you shouldn't need those extra steps.
In the future could you PLEASE not default to the C drive?
In early betas it would install to whatever was your first listed path in content library, we added this to be a little more clear about what path the cloud stuff is going to install to. I'll see if I can talk to the right people to get that added to the upgrade notes to verify that path, I think that portion of the documentation didn't get updated with this bit of info. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
They need to understand the impact. It was brought to my attention due to repeated blue screens of death. And I am lucky I caught it before I completely ran out of hard drive space. I have no idea what impact it would have had to my OS if no space was available.
Pretty much every piece of software does this. If you're concerned about a program using space, you should be checking during the install process and in options once installed to make sure all of the paths go to places you want to store things. This is true with any program.
Agreed, which is why that I have now finished doing what I was, I will try it out. I can reinstall my OS from an image and have a few backups of Daz, so returning to before 4.9 is easy enough.
I wasn't going to even try, but spiteing myself isn't something I normally do.
IIRC, there was a fix to adjust the shader for 4.8/4.9 variances, now I need to find it.
I copied the text, and here it is:
So to render something in 4.8, that was set for 4.9, what would we do with a shader designed for 4.9?
Wrong.
My DS is installed on my E drive. My Content Directories are all on my F drive. All of those items are still there.
4.9 choose to add items to "Cloud" on my C drive. Without permission, being told to install there, or giving me an option to put somewhere else. It happened automatically at 4.9 start up.
Programs from DAZ are the only ones that seem to choose to install items on C, even when I expressly point them to other directories.
Some of the models (V7 M7 Josie 7 at the least) have product updates for the shader fix waiting on my DIM. I was going to upgrade and test but I'm not interested in using Connect and I don't really want a library full of products in which some are fixed but many are not, and there were promises that future product updates would no longer be coming to DIM at some point.
From what I understand it's basically adjusting a translucency colour setting from blue to a redder colour in the Iray shader for the character.
OK, I'm not sure what to do. I wanted to try 4.9 for the IRay improvements, but I know my download allowance won't withstand a flood of metadata. Does the metadata have to be installed?
And will 4.9 try to re-install every product I've ever bought at DAZ? That's 10 years worth of stuff.
I also don't want my library re-organized. But I've never re-organized it, in any special way. I do have external runtimes that 4.8 accesses. Will 4.9 try to incorporate everything into one library?
About the encryption -- all I know about that is the little I've read. I have no idea how the basic system works, so can't speak for or against that.
I'm of the market sector that is leery of 4.9 because I honestly do not know what it will or won't do. Is there a post somewhere that explains how it works, so people like me could figure out if we should try it or not?
Yeh, I found it and posted it in my post above.
Nice try at backpedalling, but it's still DRM. Light compared to other means currently in use, but still DRM. And if history is any indication, once a company has invested in a means of DRM, they tend to get more and more restrictive in a futile attempt to try to justify the investment. Eventually some DRM gets bad enough to push legit users into cracking the program just to be able to use it after being locked out by mistake. (for a fairly recent example, the games released with the Games For Windows Live DRM system after the system was shut down. While some publishers removed the system themselves, other games did not causing all manner of trouble for their legit users.) And given how many flip flops we've seen on this issue, is it any wonder that some of us have trouble trusting ambiguous assurances about how DAZ doesn't intend to take steps to make things even more locked into a walled garden.
Hi Jan,
I just installed 4.9, and it started up almost immediately (after the login). All of my external poser runtimes were still available, and everything else seems normal, a nothing was downloaded. You should definitely back up your user data first. I do have the 4.9 beta installed, and as I recall it did quite a bit of metadata updating when I installed it, so the 4.9 public version may use that info as well. In theory, updating your metadata shouldn't be that data (bandwidth) intensive since it is mostly text, not images. IMHO the Iray improvements are worth it, your milage may vary.
PS: like yesterday, downloads are very slow today too
Chris,
While I can agree with some of your points on DRM vs the term "encryption" You are also mistaken on a very important point. DRM is about restrictions, encryption is about PROTECTION of information but not restricting anyone in anyway that is suppose to be able to read it. Encryption when entering credit card information at a online store for example, that is transparent, does not limit anyone in anyway. Or sending a encrypted email so that only the person sending and receiving can read it blocking snoopers. Either party can decrypt and leave it in the clear if they wish. Ether party has complete control
If you want to call it true encryption instead of DRM (and I know you are just trying to give this a positive spin but most of us are not going to fall for it) then it should only be in transmission and not tied to the machine. And once downloaded fully unprotected like always, a plain ole zip file. Encryption is the delivery system, DRM is protection and limiting of users. Sure your DRM scheme is less restrictive than it could be, but that is another thing I have I seen that before from companies too. Start small and it only gets worse as time goes on. DRM ONLY gets worse not better.
I am sorry to say that you have started a war, but not a war against piracy as they will keep going as always. Heck it has been posted here that people have already seen the new "encrypted only" products for free available on download sites. Which says your system isn't going to do anything but drive US, your PAYING customers, away.
You have started a war with your customers, which is never a good idea (ask all the companies in the past that tried it and shortly after went out of business). Maybe you will survive, maybe not. Regardless I wish you the best, and I hope you decide to stop this DRM nonsense before it is too late and you loose too many customers.
Thank you.
I appreciate the reply. All right, since downloads are slow today, I'll wait until things settle down.
I'd forgotten about the initial login.
Thanks again, I really appreciate the info.
I kind of think people are getting worked up over the wrong thing at this point in time.
As Cypherfox recently argued, the whole DRM thing is probably just a side-effect of DAZ trying to force a more streamlined content management. Which sounds mean, but does make a lot of sense for a company. Finding and managing 3D content is hard. Especially for someone new to the hobby. And DAZ is trying to make their application as simple and easy to use as possible, so beginners don't get scared away. And to remove some pressure from their customer support. I mean we live in a day and age where Apple products matter because they look like fisher price toys and are about as hard to use, so they are accessible to everyone. The price for this simplicity is freedom.
And while it makes sense for DAZ, and I understand their point of view, I am not at all happy about this. Because now the people how have proven again and again and again that they are not qualified to organize a content database (from my own personaly view, of course, because everyone has their own preferred way of working, I'm sure their content management all makes sense to them), DAZ and / or their PAs, are forcing their ways on everyone else.
Well forcing is too strong a word. I know, we can still use categories. But really, going through a tedious task like content management, working from within a program not specifically designed for content management, is going to be a big NO for me. Organizing content in DS is slow, sluggish and inconvenient. I'll either work in a tiny tab as opposed to my full screen or keep resizing my 3D workspace which I hate. I cannot use the scripts I have and I'm not sure how many shortcuts work inside DAZ. Drag and drop, copy and paste, creating new folders or renaming old ones, none of that - in my experience - works quite a smoothly in DS as it does in the old, trusty Windows Explorer. And, yes, I'm sure there are still better alternatives that the Explorer.
And if the software buggers up, it's all gone or something (we just need one upgrade that breaks compatibility). And yet, on the bottom level, it will still be the same old chaos. Maybe worse, when they think they don't have to keep any sort of order. What if DAZ goes away and is succeeded by some other 3D program. You may still wanna use your old content, but good luck finding anything in without your now useless categories.
Installing content is a task that I dread already, but now DAZ wants me to do it with a big iron ball around my ankle? Just no.
And all that still has nothing to say about the power DAZ theoretically gains over our content with a system like this. Power they swear they will never use (or rather 'don't currently have plans for...'), but I believe they still should not have. Because they will use it when it they feel they can make a dollar more. Just look at what DAZ and many PAs keep saying on the boards, when they feel they have to defend their decisions. In the end, it all comes down to what makes the most money. Moral questions or convenience for the customer are not the priority. DAZ is not our friend. It's a company. So I would be very careful where I put my trust.