No encrypted for me.
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And what if your system is hacked? Files stolen and you as user don't even known about the backdoor?
You realise of course that they have given their word than no base meshes for major character releases will be encrypted only content. Wait a minute, I think they actually said... "no plans to..." LOL. We shall see.
Made me smile too.
Maybe
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As you're reading this thread some; how about making hair more useful and hair-like.
Would have been more welcome than what you've done.
I said they'd have an idea (not conclusive proof) if they acted on every one time case then of course that'd be blind and extreme. Better than locking down everyone's content just in case?
Also seconding properly integrated new hair system to match the quality of the figures. I don't particularly like the way conforming clothing works in most cases but it seems work for people but hair is just ..not up to date.
So can we now expect DAZ DO's and even maybe Platinum club releases to be 'DAZ Connect Only' downloads.??, from now on.??
S.K.
[sarcasm font]And that would be fine with me - saving money in a big way. Now if Platinum Club would only go Connect only as well, yay, even more savings! [/sarcasm font]
I didn't know that Daz Originals were sold at Rendo. Encrypted only products are all DOs.
DO's still list the artist
Actually 1) has already been partially true for a while for some products. A lot of DS scripts are encrypted, and all dynamic clothing uses a .daz format, which, although I do not think it is encrypted, it does use a completely undocumented binary format. Given that those scripts and dynamic items could only be used in DS, then few probably cared about their level of protection, however some of the stuff being encrypted now, could in theory be used in Poser or Carrara, for example http://www.daz3d.com/troubadour-for-genesis-2-male-s.
Yes, but they belong to DAZ once they become DOs, so the original artist is not the one who chose to use encryption it's DAZ. If you want to boycott vendors who use encryption then it's your decision, but don't punish them for something they didn't choose.
Please remember that the PA's involved in those encrypted products had no say whatsoever in the fact that they were encrypted (at least that is what we have been told). I am no fan of encyption but we should not start any vendettas against any PA that gets dragged into this, complaints should be levelled against DAZ alone.
You can expect at least some DOs to be Connect Only, since DAZ_Steve said they would release some to see how well they sell. I guess they'll decide after having seen the numbers...
Daz may have bought the product from the artist before Daz Connect even existed. How is it the artist's responsibility if Daz bought something from them and months later decided to release it this way?
Not agreeing or disagreeing with the deecision to boycott. Just pointing out that the artist is still named.
I wasn't addressing you specifically, that was a general statement for all those who choose to boycott. Sorry if that didn't come over well.
Maybe a public library is a better analogy, with all the books permanently chained to the front desk. I can see it makes things better for the library, not so sure dragging the chains home makes things better for the customer.
With an extensively customised content library format I don't really see myself ever switching to this. It would be easier to switch vendor than library format.
I disagree, if someone feels that way; any reversal of any aspect wont be from our whining on the forums, but via sales.
I understand Daz and PAs want to protect what they create and sell. I'd be p****d myself, and have been.
I'm not getting much reciprocity; a considerable number of people don't trust the method encryption/DRM (call it what you will - it is restrictive) and have negative experiences of it; I see little that addresses our concerns.
Yea, I know it says that, but up until the very last BETA they had strong warnings to backup your content dir before upgrades. For me, that does not use iRAY...its not a worthwhile risk. In the end, it means that I am prevented from buying DazConnect Only items, which is fine. As a buyer, our power to instigate change is to "not buy". So, I'll sit and wait. I've got a ton of content I haven't toyed with, so its a good thing :)
I agree. Money speaks.
It's hard to know what sales are like, but I'd imagine reversal is unlikely.
Although the thread started by DAZ_Someone about how download speeds are slow due to huge demand struck me as rather disingenuous and conveniently timed, as if to make detractors think "well if everyone else is on board, I might as well not lose out."
I think this shows that DAZ is dragging the PAs' brand through the mud in addition to their own. Not every consumer goes to the forums to read about the minutia of the legal agreements between DAZ and a PA.
Not your content, your content database (categories and so on) as 4.9 needs to modify the basic structure and that obviously carries a degree of risk.
I have a question. All my content has thus far been installed by dim. Why does it say install when I right click on my stuff? All this content is already installed. When I click on install it installs but where? I already have a runtime on my e drive. Where is this going now? I hope not c drive as I have little space there....
Well I do actually agree with you there, my main point was holding things against the PA's, rather than the best way to register a protest. Most buyers do not frequent the forums, so DAZ can only judge their opinion on all this through the sales figures.
I will point out, as someone who plans to avoid any encrypted-only stuff (which is easy given the 600 or so items on my wishlist that predate encryption that I still have to get through), that Encryption and Connect are two distinct things.
Connect, and related features in 4.9, seem useful to me in the same way I find DIM useful. I find the bug fixes in 4.9 useful, along with speed improvements.
Refusing encryption doesn't require you to avoid 4.9.
The Connect content goes to \Data\Cloud\1_##### (where ##### is the SKU). If the product is already installed, and the files match those from the Connect service (same version, compressed) then Connect will use them and not download a fresh copy. 4.9 will use the Connect install, if present, rather than a DIM/manual install.
Note that the location of the Data\Cloud folder iss et separately from the main content directories, and defaults to the \DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library location - if you don't usualy use that you may want to change it in the Content Directory Manager and manaully move the Data\Cloud folder in to your preferred location.
Cris Palomino's distinction of encryption vs DRM is quite valid. I think Daz did themselves no favors by using fashionable but alarming tech buzzwords like "cloud" and "DRM" to describe the Connect facility. Because, you know, it's not. Mercifully.
Nevertheless, another round of Connect-only products this weekend (never mind encryption for the moment) is disappointing. "Upgrade or die."
Can I turn off the new features? Can connect be fully disabled? My content is already installed I would like to be able to use it like I used to without reinstalling the new way. It is too confusing to have connect and dim. I do not understand why 4.9 does not know stuff is already installed when it is? Why is it updating my meta data when dim says nothing needs an update?
Excuse me, but where is this "Cloud" directory? I want to make sure its not going to a Drive that is going to be a problem.