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  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631

    dim is dead at the moment

    downloading manually goes quick

     

  • SyphonapteraSyphonaptera Posts: 190

    Is it just me or are all renders now way too slow after 4.9 beta went official ? Iray is ridiculous slow!! Anyone , help please, what is going on? I changed nothing.....only Daz 4.9 64 bit was installed through DIM.....

    :(

    I really do not like this , it is not a beta version anymore so it has to be an overall improvement...not just a change.....

     

    :(

  • adzanadzan Posts: 268

    My goodness how many clicks to find items with the new connected smart content thingy - and it doesn't seem overly smart - it's a man only show me man stuff! grrr

    And I'm certainly missing a fare chunk of meta data with the connecty version, seems I lost around a 1000 products, they're definatley in my product history? lol

    oh how joyous - blaaah

  • DigiDotzDigiDotz Posts: 515

    My 4.9 64bit install seems stuck on "installing content management service" -how long should it take?

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,376
    RAMWolff said:
    RAMWolff said:
    DAZ_Spooky said:

     

    When I get home from work should I file a bug report on my situation Spooky?  Or do you have some solid advice for me surrounding the CMS connectivity issue?

    **AHEM**

    Please report it, and also state your OS, firewall, etc.

  • DAZ_JonDAZ_Jon Posts: 582
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:

    I am also going to point out that, while this is not an outright lie, it is pretty disingenuous.  From the FAQ Page: 

    "I use my content on multiple computers. Can I still do that?

    Products can be installed and used on an unlimited number of computers, but you can only be actively connected with a limited number of computers at the same time. In fact, using Daz Connect makes this easier than before, as any computer you log into will have access to your purchased products directly within Daz Studio. There is no need to carry around your installation files—simply login and download your products on any machine."

     

    Now, if you've been following along what was said on the page you actually have to jump through an extra hoop to get to, it says something slightly different: Specifically, it says, "Products can be installed and used on multiple computers, but you can only be actively logged in on one computer at a time. In fact, using Daz Connect makes this easier than before, as any computer you log into will have access to your purchased products directly within Daz Studio. There is no need to carry around your installation files—simply login and download your products on any machine."

     

    Interesting, that.  I suppose it's fair to say that you are only allowed to actively use content on a "limited number" of machines at the same time- one is, after all, a VERY limited number.  And, sorry, anybody who wants to use one computer to pose an image and another to render an image at the same time- you're S.O.L.

    The FAQ page is actually wrong (it was written for the first public beta, most of it is correct but there is some quesitons that still need to be updated). You can be logged in simultaneously to multiple computers but there is a limit. Its somewhere between 1 and 10, I can't recall exactly what the number is though (would have to dig through the relevant sections of server code which, those servers are under some pretty heavy load at the moment so don't want to mess around there right now). 

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,376
    barbult said:

    This seems like a long tedious process, because I don't want to install everything I own. I'll have to sort through it all again.

    I'm installing new releases via Connect, and older products as and when I need\want them.

  • stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 Posts: 88
    DAZ_Jon said:
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:

    I am also going to point out that, while this is not an outright lie, it is pretty disingenuous.  From the FAQ Page: 

    "I use my content on multiple computers. Can I still do that?

    Products can be installed and used on an unlimited number of computers, but you can only be actively connected with a limited number of computers at the same time. In fact, using Daz Connect makes this easier than before, as any computer you log into will have access to your purchased products directly within Daz Studio. There is no need to carry around your installation files—simply login and download your products on any machine."

     

    Now, if you've been following along what was said on the page you actually have to jump through an extra hoop to get to, it says something slightly different: Specifically, it says, "Products can be installed and used on multiple computers, but you can only be actively logged in on one computer at a time. In fact, using Daz Connect makes this easier than before, as any computer you log into will have access to your purchased products directly within Daz Studio. There is no need to carry around your installation files—simply login and download your products on any machine."

     

    Interesting, that.  I suppose it's fair to say that you are only allowed to actively use content on a "limited number" of machines at the same time- one is, after all, a VERY limited number.  And, sorry, anybody who wants to use one computer to pose an image and another to render an image at the same time- you're S.O.L.

    The FAQ page is actually wrong (it was written for the first public beta, most of it is correct but there is some quesitons that still need to be updated). You can be logged in simultaneously to multiple computers but there is a limit. Its somewhere between 1 and 10, I can't recall exactly what the number is though (would have to dig through the relevant sections of server code which, those servers are under some pretty heavy load at the moment so don't want to mess around there right now). 

    That's interesting.  I'd be curious what that number is, since, at present, my beast computer is what I use for rendering and I'd like to be able to use my other computer to build scenes while it works, yeah?  If the number is greater than 1, all good (although I may never encounter any real issues with this since, until and unless the DRM content becomes entirely optional, I really have no use for 4.9.)

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    sooo....is something going on with the DIM at the moment? It's completely unresponsive, not downloading anything at all. Would it be connected to the new 4.9 etc?

  • stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 Posts: 88
    jakiblue said:

    sooo....is something going on with the DIM at the moment? It's completely unresponsive, not downloading anything at all. Would it be connected to the new 4.9 etc?

    At a guess, DAZ's servers are a bit overloaded by the 4.9 update.

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    Still? I would have thought it would have died down by now. 

    Can't download via DIM, and downloading via the product library onsite is SUPER SLOW. Getting about 20kbs at the moment. :sigh: 

    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:
    jakiblue said:

    sooo....is something going on with the DIM at the moment? It's completely unresponsive, not downloading anything at all. Would it be connected to the new 4.9 etc?

    At a guess, DAZ's servers are a bit overloaded by the 4.9 update.

     

  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589

    Be wary of support people and answers to troubleshooting incidents with the phrase"you are a unique situation"
    Same phrase was used two separate times by two separate individuals.

    Might be reading off a card, like in India

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:

    I am also going to point out that, while this is not an outright lie, it is pretty disingenuous.  From the FAQ Page: 

    "I use my content on multiple computers. Can I still do that?

    Products can be installed and used on an unlimited number of computers, but you can only be actively connected with a limited number of computers at the same time. In fact, using Daz Connect makes this easier than before, as any computer you log into will have access to your purchased products directly within Daz Studio. There is no need to carry around your installation files—simply login and download your products on any machine."

     

    Now, if you've been following along what was said on the page you actually have to jump through an extra hoop to get to, it says something slightly different: Specifically, it says, "Products can be installed and used on multiple computers, but you can only be actively logged in on one computer at a time. In fact, using Daz Connect makes this easier than before, as any computer you log into will have access to your purchased products directly within Daz Studio. There is no need to carry around your installation files—simply login and download your products on any machine."

     

    Interesting, that.  I suppose it's fair to say that you are only allowed to actively use content on a "limited number" of machines at the same time- one is, after all, a VERY limited number.  And, sorry, anybody who wants to use one computer to pose an image and another to render an image at the same time- you're S.O.L.

    You are only allowed to be LOGGED IN on a limited number of machines, you can both render and use content without being logged in.  You only need to be logged in to install or update content with Daz Connect, not to use it once it's been installed.

  • stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 Posts: 88
    edited January 2016
    Fixmypcmike said:
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:
     

    You are only allowed to be LOGGED IN on a limited number of machines, you can both render and use content without being logged in.  You only need to be logged in to install or update content with Daz Connect, not to use it once it's been installed. 

    I sincerely hope you are correct; however, the way I read what they wrote was that you could not use any of the Smart-Connect content unless you were logged in when you loaded it.  You might be able to work with it once it's in a scene, but you could not then transfer that scene unless you were also logged in on the other computer.  I may be misreading this- I sincerely hope I am- but until DAZ3D clarifies it for certain, I am going to assume that is the case.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:
    Fixmypcmike said:
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:
    You are only allowed to be LOGGED IN on a limited number of machines, you can both render and use content without being logged in.  You only need to be logged in to install or update content with Daz Connect, not to use it once it's been installed.

    I sincerely hope you are correct; however, the way I read what they wrote was that you could not use any of the Smart-Connect content unless you were logged in when you loaded it.  You might be able to work with it once it's in a scene, but you could not then transfer that scene unless you were also logged in on the other computer.  I may be misreading this- I sincerely hope I am- but until DAZ3D clarifies it for certain, I am going to assume that is the case.

    No, it is stated clearly in the FAQ, you do not need to be logged in to use the content once you've installed it:  http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/941109/#Comment_941109

  • stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 Posts: 88
    edited January 2016
    Fixmypcmike said:
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:
    Fixmypcmike said:
    stmercy2020_9aea6b9c04 said:
     

    No, it is stated clearly in the FAQ, you do not need to be logged in to use the content once you've installed it:  http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/941109/#Comment_941109 

    Ah.  Thank you for the clarification- so the caveat that you have to be logged in to use Smart-Connect exclusive material does not automatically exclude me from using it; it simply requires me to load it to both machines.  That's considerably more reasonable than what I was reading.  I will admit that I'm still not in love with DRM- I probably never will be, since I lived through the blow-ups with the MPAA and the RIAA- but if the artists are behind it and it is actually protecting them (and not merely lining some fat cat's pockets), then I really can't complain.

    EDIT: Actually, I lie; I can still complain because the fact that material is provisionally still usable does not change the fact that they have two versions of their FAQ available and no one has clarified which one is accurate.  Further, assuming what you've stated is true, the one that is most easily available- and therefore, most likely to be used by customers when deciding whether or not to switch platforms- is the one that is least clear and most likely to mislead customers.  That is unacceptable.

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  • Mage 13X13Mage 13X13 Posts: 433

    Wow! this is the most negative thread I've ever seen here concerning a new version of DAZ Studio! It has me completely worried concerning whether I should go for it or not. If I go for it and it does not work satisfactorily, returning to 4.8 will be difficult at best, as all new downloads of DAZ Studio will be of the version 4.9! I would do a backup of my 4.8, if I could get a good tutorial on how to do that, and have it possible to reinstall if I should want to do so, but I tried with an earlier version, 4.1 I think and it was not being allowed, even though I still have the old installer! As I understand, all versions of 4.x are supposed to use the same activation code I have, which is the very one that 4.1 was installed and validated with. So going back to earlier versions might not work even though you do a proper backup job. Maybe the code become invalid for all earlier versions one it is used for the latest version you install? Yes that is a question, and I do wish to know the answer to it and to the other questions concerning making a backup. If I cannot get good instructions that work for backing up DS 4.8, I will just let DS 4.9 sit in my DIM until such time as I am confident that it is going to benefit me, and not hinder my workflow! Also I want to be sure I will be able to use all the content I have from 3rd party sources like I have been doing for years. I do not wish to lose the ability to do so, because quite frankly, a lot of it is as good or better than comparable products sold in the DAZ 3D store! If this offends any content creators reading this, my apologies, as it is not intended that way. All I am doing is putting forth something we all know to be true in many cases. To prevent the use of 3rd party content would set me back a long way, and would be a definite deal breaker for me. I would no longer deal with the DAZ 3D store, or upgrade anything from DAZ 3D. I would continue to use what I have already, and buy  from 3rd party content creators exclusively.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    Mage 13X13 said:

    Wow! this is the most negative thread I've ever seen here concerning a new version of DAZ Studio! It has me completely worried concerning whether I should go for it or not. If I go for it and it does not work satisfactorily, returning to 4.8 will be difficult at best, as all new downloads of DAZ Studio will be of the version 4.9! I would do a backup of my 4.8, if I could get a good tutorial on how to do that, and have it possible to reinstall if I should want to do so, but I tried with an earlier version, 4.1 I think and it was not being allowed, even though I still have the old installer! As I understand, all versions of 4.x are supposed to use the same activation code I have, which is the very one that 4.1 was installed and validated with. So going back to earlier versions might not work even though you do a proper backup job. Maybe the code become invalid for all earlier versions one it is used for the latest version you install? Yes that is a question, and I do wish to know the answer to it and to the other questions concerning making a backup. If I cannot get good instructions that work for backing up DS 4.8, I will just let DS 4.9 sit in my DIM until such time as I am confident that it is going to benefit me, and not hinder my workflow! Also I want to be sure I will be able to use all the content I have from 3rd party sources like I have been doing for years. I do not wish to lose the ability to do so, because quite frankly, a lot of it is as good or better than comparable products sold in the DAZ 3D store! If this offends any content creators reading this, my apologies, as it is not intended that way. All I am doing is putting forth something we all know to be true in many cases. To prevent the use of 3rd party content would set me back a long way, and would be a definite deal breaker for me. I would no longer deal with the DAZ 3D store, or upgrade anything from DAZ 3D. I would continue to use what I have already, and buy  from 3rd party content creators exclusively.

    You can contnue to use 3rd party content, as well as Daz content you installed with DIM or manually.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,157
    DoctorJellybean said:
    RAMWolff said:
    RAMWolff said:
    DAZ_Spooky said:

     

    When I get home from work should I file a bug report on my situation Spooky?  Or do you have some solid advice for me surrounding the CMS connectivity issue?

    **AHEM**

    Please report it, and also state your OS, firewall, etc.

    Thanks.  Will do!

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,991
    edited January 2016

    Request #210048

    DS 4.9.0.63 Smart Content sort by Product ID and Release Date do not work correctly. I have attached screenshots showing the problems.

    In the case of Product ID Lowest First, it put a product ID 14812 first. That is crazy. I have products with 4 digit numbers.

    In the case of Release Date Oldest First, the database has incorrect release dates. It says Fit Control for Genesis 3 Females was released in 1969! Without good data, the sorting is worthless.

     

    EDIT I know what's up with the sort by product ID. They split the sort between installed and uninstalled. It is only alphabetical within each section, not all together.
    Sort by product ID broken.JPG
    551 x 1253 - 147K
    Product release dates are wrong.JPG
    547 x 1252 - 150K
    Post edited by barbult on
  • PandaB5PandaB5 Posts: 251

    Dear Daz, pretty please can you change the icon of Daz Studio to match your new logo? 

    Your old icon - green on black is almost identical to the logo of some other software I use and your new colourful logo is so much prettier.

    Oh and if you're granting wishes, could you work on time-travel?  Because now Daz has features that I wanted years ago and if you could time-travel then by now all my content would've been smart content and you could go tell my younger self to download and install Daz supported files instead of ... well time-travel would be awesome!

    Thank you.

     

  • bacanjerry_e8db8cccddbacanjerry_e8db8cccdd Posts: 15

    my question is does 4.9 work offline.cause my machine with daz on it is not connected to the internet it's a work station and i just use it for art stuff no internet.in fact it doesn't even have a network card in it

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    PandaB5 said:

    Dear Daz, pretty please can you change the icon of Daz Studio to match your new logo? 

    Your old icon - green on black is almost identical to the logo of some other software I use and your new colourful logo is so much prettier.

    Oh and if you're granting wishes, could you work on time-travel?  Because now Daz has features that I wanted years ago and if you could time-travel then by now all my content would've been smart content and you could go tell my younger self to download and install Daz supported files instead of ... well time-travel would be awesome!

    Thank you.

     

    If you know how to make *.ico files you can create an icon out of the logo and change it yourself. Right click on the *.exe > properties > change icon > browse for the *.ico and select the icon.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Just saw this on Daz's FB:

    "Wow! We are getting SUCH positive feedback about the new Daz Studio 4.9! People are so EXCITED about the new features in this version. What is your favorite new feature of Daz Studio 4.9?"

    Either they're not reading this thread or they're being sarcastic!

    CHEERS!

  • PandaB5PandaB5 Posts: 251
    Pixolygon said:

    If you know how to make *.ico files you can create an icon out of the logo and change it yourself. Right click on the *.exe > properties > change icon > browse for the *.ico and select the icon.

    Thank you! I don't know why I didn't think of that. I made one, it's a bit small as I could only grab a small logo off their website - but I also noticed Daz had different .ico options in their folder.

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Pixolygon said:
    Bejaymac said:

    Popcorn anyone ?

    (sits back and watches the train wreckcheeky}

     

    Scooch over and pass the bucket. :D 

    Don't forget to share. :)

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    PandaB5 said:
    Pixolygon said:

    If you know how to make *.ico files you can create an icon out of the logo and change it yourself. Right click on the *.exe > properties > change icon > browse for the *.ico and select the icon.

    Thank you! I don't know why I didn't think of that. I made one, it's a bit small as I could only grab a small logo off their website - but I also noticed Daz had different .ico options in their folder.

     

    The other icon options in the current *.exe are the icons for the different file types in the library runtimes.

  • Aiijuin GraphicsAiijuin Graphics Posts: 171
    Rogerbee said:

    Just saw this on Daz's FB:

    "Wow! We are getting SUCH positive feedback about the new Daz Studio 4.9! People are so EXCITED about the new features in this version. What is your favorite new feature of Daz Studio 4.9?"

    Either they're not reading this thread or they're being sarcastic!

    CHEERS!

    LOL!  I know, right?!

    I've been reading these highly rigid critiques of 4.9 too as I debate over whether or not I decide to install it on my gateway machine... 

    And from what I've read thus far... um, I'm thinking 'No!' 

    Too many different and horrible issues from what I can tell.  I only render to an offline Workstation Processor Power Horse that never connects to the 'net,' meanwhile my gateway to the net, which uses DIM - NEVER installs the DAZ content unto itself, due to it being an outdated AMD Sempron processor - which is FAR TOO slow for DAZ studio and is only my portal that I use to purchase and download the content.

     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,991
    Rogerbee said:

    Just saw this on Daz's FB:

    "Wow! We are getting SUCH positive feedback about the new Daz Studio 4.9! People are so EXCITED about the new features in this version. What is your favorite new feature of Daz Studio 4.9?"

    Either they're not reading this thread or they're being sarcastic!

    CHEERS!

    There are great new features, but Smart Content improvements are not very helpful after DS 4.9 wipes out all your categories and customer support tells you to reset your database. Still working on recovering from that one. Should be back up and ready to play again soon. FB blurb sounds like something written ahead of time for advertising purposes, unless all this praise is coming via FB, not here.
  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631

    they told you to reset your database ? really

    thats poor mr and mrs daz! really

    really

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