Who here is good at html tables? {SOLVED - thanks, guys}
WillowRaven
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I am formating an ebook that required the use of a table to give me two columns. However, I don't know enough about html or tables to effectively alter the code so the text isn't altered on me. I want to be able to also controle the font family and size of the words in the table. Here is the code as it is now:
<table align="left" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" dir="ltr" style="width:500px;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>Abha na Sionainne</td>
<td>OW-wa nuh SHUN-in-nah</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ailill Mac Máta</td>
<td>AHL-il mak MAWta</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>An trua (the unfortunate)</td>
<td>an TROO-uh</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ard-Righ (High King)</td>
<td>AWRD-ree</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ard-Righan (High Queen)</td>
<td>AWRD-ree-an</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Aedh Ruad</td>
<td>EE-th ROO-uh</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Aengus Ruad</td>
<td>ENG-yus ROO-uh</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Aes sídhe </td>
<td>ASH shee</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Áine</td>
<td>AW-nya</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p> </p>
</body>
</html>
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As a web developer, I can only advise you to learn HTML and CSS stylesheets. It is not something that can be explained in a couple of sentences (otherwise I would not make a living consulting about it
).
B.t.w., tables for layout are a big, huge no-no.
To control the font as well you just need to add font and font-size tags to the style css of the table so it looks like this:
Alter the font and px as needed.
Where do I add this?
You already have the style tag in your initial table tag. Just add the two font tags to it.
will turn into
I'm using Sigil to edit the html converted PDF layout to epub. I like the software because normally, I don't need to know code. It wasn't until I had to create two 2-column sections to the layout that I needed a quick fix. I had no idea Adobe wouldn't translate the column information when it converted the PDF to code. I found all kinds of half-fixes online, but nothing than allowed me to maintain font style and size.
The rest of the ebook is done except for these two sections that need columns. Are you familiar with Sigil?
I did it, but the table didn't change.
I would've adivsed the same, except this isn't for a website, this is for an epub.
In that case, you'll have to do the old fashioned way because whatever you're using isn't reading the CSS properly. You'll have to use <font face="arial"> and <font size="14px">.
As an e-reader user, aren't users generally able to choose their own font/size based on their preference without needing it to be forced by the author? I can do it on my Kindle Paperwhite, and know that my Nook Tablet has that capability as well.
I'm using Sigil to create the epub. And for whatever reason, there's no easy tool for font changes. I know many readers allow the user to alter the text, but not all do, and I want it to look good even for those that don't. And since the rest of the book is in one font, and it only changes in the table, I'm hoping to at least look consistant.
It appears sigil didn't like that soulution, either.
I found this page regarding using style sheets in Sigil.
http://web.sigil.googlecode.com/git/files/OEBPS/Text/tutorial_stylesheets.html
Thanks :D I have had a heck of a time finding much help from Sigil since their website changed.
That link wasn't any help. Anyone else know how to write html for a two-column ebook?
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R.Scot Johns ebook "How to Make Kindle Comics and Children's Books" has templates, for fixed layout, which is what I will be using whenever I get started in formatting. I'm wondering if you can't create text boxes and put the information in them. If you use relative positioning (with flowable, I only used fixed format) would that work? To set up those areas you use CSS and things like position:(whatever, say relative;) with the top: x%; left: x%; width:X%; with the data inside that area. It's been awhile since I messed with CSS and formatting so I'm going to have to relearn from last year. And I don't do flowable as I want my text and images to be controlled.
A simple way, for static HTML pages (No Java, flash, etc), I don't really know the HTML code all that well myself. However I do have a Program that lets me make simple number charts (what I've used HTML tables for the most). I have discovered that the humble table can be very good for some simple things.
So, in any case, is the attached toss together in a few seconds close to what your looking for?
I picked up Nvu a very long time ago, and I don't know if it is still around. For my needs of simple static HTML, it works well for me.
I agree, though generally not recommended, they're can be quite useful for some things. It's just about knowing when to use them and when not to use them.
Perhaps there is something in these links that will help.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&q=sigil+changing+font+size+in+tables&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
I haven't used tables in a long while and have never used Sigil. I changed all my website to CSS and HTML and I have no idea how an ebook uses it or is laid out.
The table is fine for my needs other than the particular code doesn't allow me to alter the font family or size.That's all I need to know.
Since adding them to the main table tag didn't work, try adding the style attribute to each of your <td> tags, so they look like this:
Don't add it to the </td> tags though, only the opening tags.
Grrr ... That didn't work, either.
In this screenshot, you can see the code on the left and the result on the right. As you can see, so far, anything I add isn't altering the first row of the table. The font is still weird.
So far as I am aware 'native' HTML tables do not permit you to specify the font to use. However, as mentioned above the 'style=' option can be used to specify CSS elements so if the device itself supports that you should be good to go.
I threw together a quick check using Notepad, and:
Worked for me, using Firefox to render the html.
The font in the table is clearly different from the rest of the stuff above the table. So close, and the font wont switch to what you want it to be in the table? Dose the "font-size" change when you change that number? Case sensitive text font name?
Also, I keep getting it in a 'span style' not in the 'td style'. I'm not sure that makes a dif or not, it may, posibly.
That worked! It seams as though I had to have the '-family' after the word 'font', and it finally worked. :D
Thanks, guys :D
Happy to help :)