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  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    Peter Fulford said:
    scatha said:

    I seriously do not get where you folks constantly get the notion from that Intel processors are better for graphics then an AMD. Frankly, stick to base facts and the AMD has just as much power doing graphics as the processor you currently selected, but that intel costs a hell of a lot more. So can we please keep the intel fanboy opinions out of every computer discussion?

     

    The base facts reliably show that for 3D rendering (the type of graphics performance that is relevant here), current Intel CPUs are faster than current AMD CPUs. No amount of fanboyism either way (or accusations thereof) can alter the base facts.

    In this review of the AMD FX-9590 (mentioned above) the 8-core AMD is handily beaten by a 4-core Intel.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8316/amds-5-ghz-turbo-cpu-in-retail-the-fx9590-and-asrock-990fx-extreme9-review/6

    That's just the base fact of floating point grunt. If you can find a review showing any AMD processor anywhere near the Intel Core i7-5820 for 3D rendering, please do link it.

    I would love for AMD to become competitive in this area. Competition is good for the consumer, especially for those with no brand / platform loyalty.

    Peter is correct here.

    But Scatha, good for you, really.  You're on a budget and you spent less and stayed within that budget.  I get that, and I think it's super.

    But they are not the same internally and cannot be compared core-for-core and GHz-for-GHz.  AMD CPUs run hotter and use more electricity at a given clock speed that Intel processors have.  Comparing them like you have done is like comparing apples to puppies.  And finally, AMD is a dead company walking.  They have a cash-burn rate greater than their revenue and they keep laying people off, so I think it may be only a matter of time now.  My only hope is that they can complete a sale of the graphic card business, but I think it's possible that the whole thing is circling the drain.

    I can't recommend them for CPUs.  And please don't insult anybody by calling them a "fan boy".  I was a dual-Opteron user when it wasn't cool, but they had the hypertransport back then which made some sense on a technical basis.  But now, there is no comparison.

    And now for GPUs, AMD still won't take advantage of CUDA, so iray is kind of restricted to your CPU, unless you also have an Nvidia card in your box.  But then why waste a slot on an AMD card instead of just getting another Nvidia card?

    To me, this adds up and subtracts down to "not a good use of my money over the next 3-5 years", which is about how long I keep a system in service.

    I always reassess when I prepare to build a new system.  Maybe the scene will change.  I hope it does, because I think Intel is better when there's a viable competitor.  But today?  AMD, no way.

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    dracorn said:

    Here's my final PC!!

     

    Processor:  Intel Core i7-5820K LGA2011 Unlocked Processor (3.3 GHz, 6 core)
    Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 LGA2011-3 "Thunderbolt Ready" Motherboard (SDI ready if I want to add another graphics card)
    Memory:  Patriot Viper Xtreme Edition DDR4 32GB 4X8GB 2400MHz PX432G240C5QK (x2: Total 64 GB RAM)
    Graphics: EVGA GeForce 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0+ Graphics Card 2816 CUDA Cores, 6GB GDDR5
    SSD: 1TB SAMSUNG 850 Pro Series MZ-7KE1T0BW 2.5" SATA III Internal (10 year warranty)
    HDD: WD Desktop Mainstream 3TB Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit (2 of these)
    Liquid Cooling: Cosair Hydro H110i GT Large 280mm Radiator (Liquid Cooling, dual fan)
    Power Supply: Corsair HX Series HX1050 Power Supply 1050 Watt 80 PLUS Gold Certified Modular PSU
    Blue Ray: ASUS 16X BDRW SATA
    Case: Corsair 760T Mid Tower ATX PC Computer Case [This is an excellent case!  It easily opens to dust].
    Case Fans: Corsair Air Series AF140 Purple LED Case Fan [I know, purple.  But it really looks cool.  I'm going to pick up some custom dust filters]. 
    O.S.: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional OEM 64bit  [Ugh.  Well, it's a clean install and I'm learning to live with it.  At least I can tell it when to upgrade]. 

     

    The total price (including tax and a UPS) was $3,800.00.  I went to Fry's and worked with an expert to pick out all my components, so this is not a package system with some options, but a totally custom one.  They charged me $100 to put it together and I get to keep the rebates. 

     

    How's it run?  SWEET!  It renders very fast.  It's also whisper quiet and cool until I make the processor work, then the radiator fans kick up.  The case also has a 2-speed fan control.  Boy does it heat up the office in the summer!  Windows is relegated to one of the HDD's, which leaves the SSD for DAZ Studio and my other graphics programs exclusively.  Now I have been devoting my time to really learning rendering, lighting, etc. (WOW, lots to learn).   Having fun!

    Nicely done!  That's a bit expensive, but it should last you several years.  Water cooling is so nice and quiet, whoohoo!

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

     

    Subtropic Pixel said:
    dracorn said:

    Here's my final PC!!

     

    Processor:  Intel Core i7-5820K LGA2011 Unlocked Processor (3.3 GHz, 6 core)
    Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 LGA2011-3 "Thunderbolt Ready" Motherboard (SDI ready if I want to add another graphics card)
    Memory:  Patriot Viper Xtreme Edition DDR4 32GB 4X8GB 2400MHz PX432G240C5QK (x2: Total 64 GB RAM)
    Graphics: EVGA GeForce 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0+ Graphics Card 2816 CUDA Cores, 6GB GDDR5
    SSD: 1TB SAMSUNG 850 Pro Series MZ-7KE1T0BW 2.5" SATA III Internal (10 year warranty)
    HDD: WD Desktop Mainstream 3TB Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit (2 of these)
    Liquid Cooling: Cosair Hydro H110i GT Large 280mm Radiator (Liquid Cooling, dual fan)
    Power Supply: Corsair HX Series HX1050 Power Supply 1050 Watt 80 PLUS Gold Certified Modular PSU
    Blue Ray: ASUS 16X BDRW SATA
    Case: Corsair 760T Mid Tower ATX PC Computer Case [This is an excellent case!  It easily opens to dust].
    Case Fans: Corsair Air Series AF140 Purple LED Case Fan [I know, purple.  But it really looks cool.  I'm going to pick up some custom dust filters]. 
    O.S.: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional OEM 64bit  [Ugh.  Well, it's a clean install and I'm learning to live with it.  At least I can tell it when to upgrade]. 

     

    The total price (including tax and a UPS) was $3,800.00.  I went to Fry's and worked with an expert to pick out all my components, so this is not a package system with some options, but a totally custom one.  They charged me $100 to put it together and I get to keep the rebates. 

     

    How's it run?  SWEET!  It renders very fast.  It's also whisper quiet and cool until I make the processor work, then the radiator fans kick up.  The case also has a 2-speed fan control.  Boy does it heat up the office in the summer!  Windows is relegated to one of the HDD's, which leaves the SSD for DAZ Studio and my other graphics programs exclusively.  Now I have been devoting my time to really learning rendering, lighting, etc. (WOW, lots to learn).   Having fun!

    Nicely done!  That's a bit expensive, but it should last you several years.  Water cooling is so nice and quiet, whoohoo!

    Nice system; nothing wrong with Windows 10 as long as you disalbe the huge amount  of spyware MS have incorporated. They'll calling it a free upgrade, which is a bit of a strietch seeing as you're paying in data and loss of privacy.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    Looks awesome. I am using a 980ti with a 770gtx...love it. Will be dumping the 770 for another 980ti as soon as i can!

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