Bethany 7 - a different shape!

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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    @ANGELREAPER1972 Good to know!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Whenever I get my current thing rendered, going to try to make a G2F Bethany analog.
     Maybe call her Elisabet.

     

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  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012

    Stocked up on Genesis 2 from when I started in March then my heart sank when they released V7.. However, the release of Bethany 7 means G3F now definitely has my attention!

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    riftwitch said:
    Toyen said:

    Glad to hear Olympia will return!

    What about Michael 7? Will t8here be many more female releases before he is out?

    K'm curious to see who the new G2M  character is that was mentioned recently. Should be about 4 of 5 weeks to go.

    good point...almost forgot about the new guy

    Since it's beem stated that it won't be a new David or Hiro, I'm thinking either Freak 6, a completely new iconic male, or maybe another creature, like Minotaur 6 and Reptilian 6. Either way, it's probably something that suits my current needs more than Bethany does. I've wishlisted her, but I'm saving my money until I see what else is coming down the pike. I like her face, and a lot of the clotnes and hair in the  bundle, but for the few times I need a larger lady, I've got plenty of G2F and Genesis resources that will work.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    Will wait and see, too much of a gamble to even guess what our next G2M will be. But I doubt they will have 4 arms.

  • boisselazonboisselazon Posts: 458
    edited August 2015
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    @ANGELREAPER1972

    soooooooooo much curv...

    I will dream nigh long cheeky

     

    was that iray? wich ligh/set up did you use?

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited August 2015

    Well here is what I'm looking at. 21.95 minus 30% (6.585) is 15.365. On the other hand 21.95 minus 35% (7.6825), is about 14.27, hmm. So I guess things do add up, they just don't stack, lol.

    So my PC+ applies to bethany7, and not the extra stuff, lol. This morning, that hair was a tad more then 30% off being new and all, and that's what had me calling bluff on the sale. It's a good deal, don't get me wrong. I'm going to think about this a bit more, as that is a bit more then what I have left (for play funds) after getting Eva7 Pro yesterday.

    (EDIT) After adding up receipts from chasing storms last night, Bethany7 Pro, EJ Hair, and a few more trinkets have been ordered.

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  • j cade said:
    alken said:

    I like her, but to be honest a person that voluptuous would have some plumpness on her face as well.  Looks a bit mismatched.

    She reminds be of one of those plus size models that are starting to come more into vougue, they also tend to have much thinner faces comparatively, (as well as being talk and ridiculously hourglassy) some people luck out

    I found this ridiculously funny!

    Have you seen any artwork from Michaelangelo and others?  The women were ALL "hourglassy!"  About 8 years ago, one of my friends who has since retired made a comment that young girls today have no "waist" to speak of, and that he saw so many of them that were the same; like 28-28-28, and he was wondering of the gene pool had somehow been invaded by cylindrically-shaped aliens from off-planet.  It was funny how he said it, but then I got to thinking about it and...I saw that he was at least partially right.  The hips can be wider, but often there is no "waist" to speak of.  Is this a relatively new thing?  Did those great artists of history long-past actually capture the women as they looked then, or could it be that we now see only what their minds' eyes replicated on canvas or in stone, much like what today's plastic surgeons replicate with .. um, "augmentation"? 

    We may never really know for sure, but I will tell you this:  As an observer of people, and particuarly of the fairer sex, I can say without hesitation that this shape exists in the world and it is lovely in its own right.

    Bethany for the win!

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited August 2015
    j cade said:
    alken said:

    I like her, but to be honest a person that voluptuous would have some plumpness on her face as well.  Looks a bit mismatched.

    She reminds be of one of those plus size models that are starting to come more into vougue, they also tend to have much thinner faces comparatively, (as well as being talk and ridiculously hourglassy) some people luck out

    I found this ridiculously funny!

    Have you seen any artwork from Michaelangelo and others?  The women were ALL "hourglassy!"  About 8 years ago, one of my friends who has since retired made a comment that young girls today have no "waist" to speak of, and that he saw so many of them that were the same; like 28-28-28, and he was wondering of the gene pool had somehow been invaded by cylindrically-shaped aliens from off-planet.  It was funny how he said it, but then I got to thinking about it and...I saw that he was at least partially right.  The hips can be wider, but often there is no "waist" to speak of.  Is this a relatively new thing?  Did those great artists of history long-past actually capture the women as they looked then, or could it be that we now see only what their minds' eyes replicated on canvas or in stone, much like what today's plastic surgeons replicate with .. um, "augmentation"? 

    We may never really know for sure, but I will tell you this:  As an observer of people, and particuarly of the fairer sex, I can say without hesitation that this shape exists in the world and it is lovely in its own right.

    Bethany for the win!

    Well, then again, if your not starved to skin and bone, like so many today, lol. There was a time that being with some one 'Large' was envied, as it implied you could afford to eat constantly. Tho like many things, there are cycles to what is considered desirable or not. The biggest thing to remember, is there are critical organs around the tummy, so there is only so small that can be on a healthy person.

    Is in not impossible to be 34-30-34? (assuming the middle number is the tummy diameter)

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  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439

    Will wait and see, too much of a gamble to even guess what our next G2M will be. But I doubt they will have 4 arms.

    Probably not. I'm also hoping that it won't be too much longer for 3dWizard's Catsuit to be released, too. DAZ does seem to be good at sitting on products until they feel the time is right. Usually not when I feel it's right. Hopefully I'll be a pleasant surprise. The mention of the figure in any way is probably the closest we've had to a 'preview' in quite a while.

     

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511
    edited August 2015

    There is lots of evidence of this. Gotta wait for Catsuit theme week. 

    riftwitch said:

    DAZ does seem to be good at sitting on products until they feel the time is right. Usually not when I feel it's right. Hopefully I'll be a pleasant surprise. The mention of the figure in any way is probably the closest we've had to a 'preview' in quite a while.

     

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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511
    j cade said:
    alken said:

    I like her, but to be honest a person that voluptuous would have some plumpness on her face as well.  Looks a bit mismatched.

    She reminds be of one of those plus size models that are starting to come more into vougue, they also tend to have much thinner faces comparatively, (as well as being talk and ridiculously hourglassy) some people luck out

    I found this ridiculously funny!

    Have you seen any artwork from Michaelangelo and others?  The women were ALL "hourglassy!"  About 8 years ago, one of my friends who has since retired made a comment that young girls today have no "waist" to speak of, and that he saw so many of them that were the same; like 28-28-28, and he was wondering of the gene pool had somehow been invaded by cylindrically-shaped aliens from off-planet.  It was funny how he said it, but then I got to thinking about it and...I saw that he was at least partially right.  The hips can be wider, but often there is no "waist" to speak of.  Is this a relatively new thing?  Did those great artists of history long-past actually capture the women as they looked then, or could it be that we now see only what their minds' eyes replicated on canvas or in stone, much like what today's plastic surgeons replicate with .. um, "augmentation"? 

    We may never really know for sure, but I will tell you this:  As an observer of people, and particuarly of the fairer sex, I can say without hesitation that this shape exists in the world and it is lovely in its own right.

    Bethany for the win!

    Well, then again, if your not starved to skin and bone, like so many today, lol. There was a time that being with some one 'Large' was envied, as it implied you could afford to eat constantly. Tho like many things, there are cycles to what is considered desirable or not. The biggest thing to remember, is there are critical organs around the tummy, so there is only so small that can be on a healthy person.

    Is in not impossible to be 34-30-34? (assuming the middle number is the tummy diameter)

    that would not be a good set of dimensions to a lot of people. the waist is too close to bust and hip sizes. Waist needs to be like 24 with those other dimensions.  There was a time 36-24-36 was considered to be the ideal. Which is feasible. with a 30inch waist I expect 40+ hips.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085
    I've found it a little tricky to expand G2F waist without making the thighs really large.
  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511
    I've found it a little tricky to expand G2F waist without making the thighs really large.

    That is true. you can counter act that with thigh sliming morphs. Thats how the morph soup works sometimes.

  • EtriganEtrigan Posts: 603
    edited August 2015

    Bethany is going to need some serious clothing. I was... fooled... by the promo images; she's much more Rubenesque than shown. I got her because I wanted a "realistic" American woman to use as a teacher in a classroom, but the clothing currently available for G3 looks ridiculous on her. The business suit looks like a second skin! If we're going to model "average" American (and other) women, then let's dress them fittingly (pun intended). The image is after a bit of adjustment... but still angry

    Additional rant: Clothing modellers, please... PLEASE... please... look back at V3/V4 where collars didn't fade into the blouse. There must be a new clothing model program... or... super conforming is making us lazy. I don't mind fixing poke-through... but let's stop second skinning with suits and such. /rant.

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674

    I suspect you could get the figure, the gangster outfit is more tricky. (I don't think I have a trilby)


    Yeah..if I was any good at sliding the sliders (BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DIALS IN DAZ!) :(

    And I guess the rest means that G3F clothes won't work on G2F.

  • KaribouKaribou Posts: 1,325
    DAZ_Steve said:
    Rogerbee said:

    So, is this the G3 version of Olympia!?

    She has an interesting face and one which could lend itself to many different eras/genres. I guess one could describe the body as, dare I say it, Rubenesque, so she'll fit in nicely with classical stuff. She, like Olympia, isn't one that screams 'buy' to me and I'd get her if there was an offer on similar to the last one for Olympia.

    Is this Daz doing diversity like we talked about in the Eva7 thread, mmmm, could be a start...

    CHEERS!

     

    No, se's something entirely different.  When we went mor full figured with Olympia, there were a lot of folks who wished we had taken it even further.  That's Bethany.  But for those of you who love Olympia (myself included!!) she's still in the works on Genesis 3.

    Oh, heavens.  I'll be homeless if you guys keep rolling amazing things out this fast.  My wallet seriously needs a break!  DS4.8 prompted me to buy a new GPU, and then there was V7 who is just stunning.  I waited on Eva because I'm already broke and I was "meh" on the clothes and hair in the Pro Bundle.  But then... BETHANY!  Love her!!  So I'm even more broke!  Which saddens me greatly because there is sooooo much else in the store right now that wants to jump into my cart!  Olympia was hands-down my favorite base character of all the "Genesi" 5/6 people, so I'm delighted there is a 7 in the works... but... gah!  We need more time to recover! 

    Kudos for giving us a beautiful woman with a full figure.  I am dazzled by the awesomeness that is currently emanating from Utah.  :)

  • bethany camille sophia - bethany 7 pro bundle ladies iray test 050815 4;19am

     

    @ANGELREAPER1972

    soooooooooo much curv...

    I will dream nigh long cheeky

     

    was that iray? wich ligh/set up did you use?

     

    bethany camille sophia - bethany 7 pro bundle ladies iray test 050815 4;19am

     

    @ANGELREAPER1972

    soooooooooo much curv...

    I will dream nigh long cheeky

     

    was that iray? wich ligh/set up did you use?

    yes she is nice even though others have said could make do with what they have gen2 using shapeshift, belly control and other morph packs which I have too and love it is still nice to have a premade base this good and makes it easier to use as a starting point for more  character shapes once zevo releases shapeshift 3 as well as others

    oh besides the daz morphs which aren't that many in the current backs they are still good starting point more morphs the better so get as many from different artists as you can I say there is also another called Metamorphosis for Genesis 3 Female(s) oh and think Barbarian and Succubus for Bethany 7 has some morphs too

    now onto Beth's Pro Bundle do like it few things though love the gangster outfit and the other two in my pic (I mostly do pinup and fantasy) now the hat with the gangster outfit apparently has fits for just about all the gen3 hairs but not really gotten it to work yet anyway but at least you can resize the hat but if you notice still had some pokethrough speaking of pokethrough tried the Corset Dress Outfit for Genesis 3 Female(s) you get on the Sophia character and had heaps of pokethrough couldn't seem to fix either posing her different or dress adjustments maybe just her the three characters are slightly different builds so don't know abouth the other two though this does bring up about other clothing on Betnany size characters whether or not other clothing will work for her. Next up hairs they are nice but when you have Beth or any other g3 selected then click hairs you see all the the generation 3 hairs except Casino Hair for Genesis 3 Female(s) the only way to see that to select use is deselect your character then go into your hair menu again to find select it then do the attatch/parent option to your character just like using any other hair/clothing/product made for any other generation other than the one your using . No addition makeup/nail options still other than those added with the non Daz made characters. Still all in all still a nice Pro Bundle have the Victoria 7 and Eva 7 Pro Bundles too and yes I like all three

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Tinkering with something Bethany-like in G2F. Having a devil of a time getting the skin color right, and the face is... very approximate. AH well. ;)

     

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited August 2015

    ANGELREAPER1972, I can't say that I'm all that surprised, lol.

    And that was just the first few V7 launch figures and outfits. I think It's safe to say G3F has a major malfunction.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Welp, this is my vague stab at something like Bethany, in G2F. I couldn't get the nose quite right. There's something about Bethany's face I really like.

    I also discovered I really should get Zev0's Shapeshift for Gen and Gen2. Yet more on my wishlist...

     

    The skin is El Rafaga, heavily modified. Hair is the seaweed thing that came with the Ninive 6 pro pack. The rest comes from the general morph pack.

     

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  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555
    edited August 2015

    Tinkering with something Bethany-like in G2F. Having a devil of a time getting the skin color right, and the face is... very approximate. AH well. ;)

    do you use skinbuilder/skinbuilder pro? can create some nice skin tones, makeup and eyebrows with that still bit of guess work guessing colours and tinting but still good 

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  • ANGELREAPER1972, I can't say that I'm all that surprised, lol.

    And that was just the first few V7 launch figures and outfits. I think It's safe to say G3F has a major malfunction.

    wouldn't be the first time probably all generations suffer that really well from my stuff used anyway Reby V4 not everything fits her as does a lot of genesis and geneses 2 stuff doesn't always work on every character bought either daz made or pa or characters I've created morphing and these aren't extreme built characters either with huge proportions either oh and there was one product a lingerie pack for gen 1-2 just could not get to fit on any character I made or bought bought ages ago before knew could return get refund so to late there dynamic clothing think it's referred to unless to get it to work I have to have that dynamic clothing plugin installed? Guess it's hard though to make sure all clothing conforms to every figure to specific generations size and g3 looks like we'll get lot more choices maybe which is great really as I like to use different sizes builds and I'm looking forward to breast morphs I like to have lots of different curves and shapes not just sizes so breasts may be an interesting challenge for clothing too

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    Fitting clothing is definitely needed. I would be glad to get more clothing with material zones which I'm able to add or blend out. Like a dress which can be short or long at one click. Cleavage or close-buttoned at one click. The way dresses are now, they are either skimpwear or regal attire, rarely something in-between, something you could use for more than one occasion.

    Btw, couldn't resist, bought Bethany today. She is the first of all DAZ people which has a realistic shape (still idealized, but good looking, I dare say beautiful).

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,450
    Rogerbee said:

     

    ANGELREAPER1972, I can't say that I'm all that surprised, lol.

    And that was just the first few V7 launch figures and outfits. I think It's safe to say G3F has a major malfunction.

    ZDG, you don't actually explain what you're showing.  Are you trying to use clothing from other generations on G3F and which clothing articles.  Some of the pieces look like they were made for G3F.  With few exceptions, most of the clothing I have tried from Genesis to G2F has fit on G3F.  I normally do collision iterations at 20.  So far so good.  Not just on G3F, but on body morphs I hand sculpted in ZBrush for G3F, and they have worked quite well.

     

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited August 2015

    Even complete V7 pro stuff has issues. It's not just stuff that never had 'JCM' things for whatever figure. Some are complaining that there is just to much 'skimp wear', I'm disappointed that I have NOTHING that fits to go under a skirt for G3F. Yea, go figure. With G2F, all the stuff that came in the Pro packs, worked together without TOS violating poke threw, or the need to fuss with D-forms and actor adjustments just to get stuff to fit.

    Oh yea, the hairline dose look great doesn't it, lol.

    From the looks of it, some basic stuff is making it to the clothing (body volume, breast size), and finer details just are failing to get put in the "Auto generated morphs" on the cloths (hidden PA shaping things equivalent to breast under slope, hip ridge width, etc).

    In any case it is late, and it has been a long day. Chat later y'all.

    (EDIT) Cris Palomino, That is G3F outfits on Non-daz G3F figures.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/869357/#Comment_869357

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  • Fitting clothing is definitely needed. I would be glad to get more clothing with material zones which I'm able to add or blend out. Like a dress which can be short or long at one click. Cleavage or close-buttoned at one click. The way dresses are now, they are either skimpwear or regal attire, rarely something in-between, something you could use for more than one occasion.

    Btw, couldn't resist, bought Bethany today. She is the first of all DAZ people which has a realistic shape (still idealized, but good looking, I dare say beautiful).

    Its G2F, not G3F... "Ghawazee Coat", comes with a really nice skirt with four length zones. Or texture stripes if you prefer.

    http://www.daz3d.com/ghawazee-coat-for-genesis-2-female-s

    I haven't tried it on G3F, rrrrrr, let me check that. OK, it fits to plane non-morphed G3F fine. The rest is limited by how bad the 'Auto follow' is broken on the non-daz figure. I know the skirt has adjustments, I've just never needed to look at them with generation 6 figures.

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited August 2015
    DAZ_Steve said:
    Toyen said:

    Glad to hear Olympia will return!

    What about Michael 7? Will there be many more female releases before he is out?

    Toyen said:

    Glad to hear Olympia will return!

    What about Michael 7? Will there be many more female releases before he is out?

     

    M7 is a few months out.  You'll see more Genesis 3 females, and even some Genesis 2 males before he arrives.

    WHAT!? You guys are still going to release Gen 6 males even post-Gen 7's advent?

    So, is THAT why Bethany came out so early? We're getting that male character during the usual release week, aren't we?

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  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    Yes, something like this Ghawazee outfit, but more modern, would be really fine. Like pants which could be changed to shorts, long-sleeved T-shirts which could be changed to shot-sleeved versions or to version with loose hanging sleeves and so on. Something like a basic clothes set with interchangeable pieces. The last garment I know which hat these features was the Morphing Fantasy Dress with all it's add-ons. Much more versatile for individual dresses.

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