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Yeah I have bought a lot over the years in the sales I have never used, and the sales today dont really seem like sales as mentioned the base price increases really mean your getting it at the usual price minus the increase( not all but some).
I have quit the PC Club as its just not the PC club I remebered joining all those years ago, Guess change has to come sometime but dont mean I have to stay with it.
Only things I will buy in future is things I can actually use at the time like The Filter Forge 4 pro offer it in the software sale it has various uses to me.
But here now there are too many sales and since Dan Farr and other daz staff seem to have disapeared, it just aint Daz 3D anymore to me, the way they used to come on the boards and chat and there was exitement for new products, not oh here is V7 no lead up to get you exited and make you want to get the new model.
Not sure if I said it right but in short there is no exitement around here anymore to make me want to buy new products, and I dont think sale after sale is going to get me exited enough to buy.
Steve.
You generally need to set up your scene lighting and model surfaces a bit differently. You need to do that in any 3D app that supports more than one rendering solution, but you don't need two progtams. In the case of Reality and Luxus you could have two distinct surface settings on any surface and lights for eithe rset could be turned on or off so one saved scene could be optmized for both 3Delght and for LuxRender at the same time. Can that be done with Iray (I honesty don't know, I haven't gotten that far with it so Im asking)?
Well, all I say to this is, it saves me money... :P
Then again, I'm not buying anything G3-related until G3M/M7 comes out.
This is compleatly wrong by the way, most 3delight shaders can be used with the Iray render engine without any problem, (some specilist shaders may cause you some issues). But as alway native Iray shaders will always look better. I have not tried using Iray shades with the 3delight engine but I do beleve they do not work, but as currrently most new packs come with both versions of shaders it is not an issue,
There have been not a few times I've forgotten to convert shaders on clothing and similar and not even realized because it looks totally fine in Iray.
I think the biggest difference is skin, anything with transparency or SSS, and some metals. (Even then, a lot of metals still look decent)
That is about what I have found when I have needed to convert mats from 3delight to Iray, metal and glass and skin type textures take the most work, while everything else can be left almost simular or just minor tweeks.
Dear Daz,
You keep putting everything I want on sale all the time and I can't resist a bargain, so I just keep on spending. Its like you're looking at my personal wishlist and selecting something new from it every day to try to sell me. And I'm weak Daz... so weak. I keep buying stuff I'll never get around to using just because I see it on sale and my imagination runs wild with what I could do with it. Its becoming a compulsion. I fear for the state of my bank account. My five children (disclaimer: fictional) haven't eaten in 3 days now. Poor little Jimmy(disclaimer: fictional), Sally(disclaimer: fictional), Christopher(disclaimer: fictional)... and whatever the other 2 are called are starving, Daz, starving!
I've had to send Christopher to work in the steel mill just to make ends meet - he's only 11 (but surprisingly has made Foreman already, the little go-getter)!
I tried going to DA to get help for my problem (Daz Anonymous) but I just ended up leaving with a bunch of new ideas for scenes I could render. Its a sickness. Yesterday I pawned Christopher's Ferrari for Daz money. I'm dreading him finding out... he's got a real temper on him that one
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So please Daz, for the sake of my young family (disclaimer: fictional), please put some other stuff on sale for a while that I don't really want to give me time to build up some more cash again. Thinking about it... Sally's got that jewellry she hardly ever wears....
Yours Gratefully,
Daz Customer/Addict
That's because DS applies the Iray Uber shader to your surfaces at render time, and uses whatever textures and settings it recognizes.
Is this now about shaders or is this thread further about the sales?
Orange mice... ?
My favorite is the sales where the company says, 'Offer void where prohibited.' That's like telling me 'This computer will not run when turned off.' If the offer is prohibited, it can't be acted on already. Why tell me it's also 'void'? It's just more sales-speak. Which is exactly what those ***'s always mean.
And to a certain degree that is how I feel about some of these sales. "Get 50% off on the following items****"
"*** Except when we don't feel like giving you the discount."
Steve- You can also preorder the upgrade to version 5, coming out this year, if you go to the vendor's site. It's discounted 50%.
"Void where prohibited" is a safety net - if there turns out to be a local law that makes the offer illegal then the offer is invalidated, otherwise the company might find itself both obliged to fulfill the offer and obliged not to fulfill the offer.
I think I have got it down to a balancing act. I watch the sales. When a "sale situation" is beneficial to me, I take advantage of it. However, on new releases, if its something I want and have the funds, I purchase it. I also plan ahead a little bit. For example, the whole "launch" of G3/V7 was a surprise. I had no idea that was going to be coming so soon after we got Iray. I was wrong. However, now as I am pretty sure that we will be getting G3/M7 sometime in the next few months, I am making sure I will have funds to take advantage of that in a bigger way than I did G3/V7. Until we see the new male figure, I am still mostly focused on shaders and lights and such for Iray. But, if in the meantime something really interesting comes out, I will consider purchasing it.
I do appreciate the sales that are offered. Even the "punch" types and the really conditional ones. I just dont get caught up in the frenzy. I use them when they benefit me. For instance the punch sale that just finished was beneficial to my needs. I did not max out my discount because I only purchased things I could actually use "now" and that fit into my budget. Even so, my last several purchases were significantly reduced in cost. This was a good thing.
All that said, there is a lot going into my wishlist right now while I focus on purchasing other things that are higher in priority for me. I make use of my wishlist in conjunction with various sales and my PC+ coupons to make sure that I spend the budget I have alloted myself as intelligently as possible.
I admit to being drawn into the recent sales. I even remember laughing at the punch sale thinking I'd never earn the first tier let alone the maximum. Then V7 came along lol Let's just say I eventually got to the maximum discount, and stacked with flash sales and all the complicated, convoluted and confusing discounts, have been stacking up pc+ items from just 20c, gen 6 characters and recent, high quality content, often for less than 5 dollars. (Sorry PAs)
Granted I've been on vacation and had time to browse. It could be a full time occupation working out all the permutations and combinations.
Apart from my decimated bank balance, the trouble now is that five dollar fast grab content no longer seems like a good deal. I may be ruined for future non-discounted prices, so perhaps the OP still applies.
This sale has managed to decimate my bank account also. The stacking on top of stacking and sometimes on top of stacking has been phenominal for this sale. Thanks DAZ, now do me a favor and give me a couple of months to recover...
This style of sale with a non-resetting punch meter, discount tiers that can be applied to new releases, stacking discounts and a month long duration makes me want to by things! STOP THAT!!
Punch sales usually don't work out for me, since I rarely buy skimpwear or so much female only content which seems to dominate the releases. =-)
I agree that the complexity of the ads have hit the point of ridiculous, and I have a simple policy now that I just wait for PA product to hit at least 55% off and DOs to hit 65% off. That said, I imagine that DAZ is going to see a noticeable downturn in $$$ from me anyway, now that they're rushing into Generation 7 like lemmings headed for the ocean. As it is, the majority of what I bought last year was Genesis and Gen 4 product in the mega-sales, balanced out by flash sale sets and items for the first dozen or so G2F&M figures. At this point, however, there's little coming out for V7 that isn't just a variation of something I have for G2F, and while Gen 7 may look nice, the improvements in bending are pretty much worthless to me until there's a decent collection of skins. Which if the current rate of release is any indication, means that I'll probably be buying mostly uber-discounted Gen 6 stuff for the remainder of this year.
That gift card stacking was great! Glad I caught it and it was such a pleasant surprise.
Amen! It's just that I have to do it all over again now with iRay. But that's okay--I like choices.
^^^ This.
I am not fashioning a digital underwear catalog or swimsuit issue. A lot of the punch-ables therefore are not really applicable to me.
But I guess that's where the demand is. Sadly.
Well maybe it's working but if you never try anything else you won't know if something else might work better.
I prefer a straight sale. Truth be told, I never tried stacking or punchable items. If the price is right for the thing I want, I purchase it. You shouldn't need a slide rule to take advantage of a sale. Keep it simple.
I used to prefer to plan my purchases, or at least I'd plan the dollar-amounts a month or so ahead of time, and buy a big gift card on discount. But gift card discounts are few, far between, too low in discount (I look for 12% or better) and always come with other strings attached (sometimes requiring that Sherpa guide!), so I don't buy GCs as often anymore.
Funny thing is, I also don't make nearly the big purchases in the store anymore either. For me, the two were absolutely intertwined, and when it became difficult to spend my money on a GC, it became difficult to spend my money in a store too.
I used to spend a couple hundred dollars every month or two, and now it's dropped off to that amount only about every 6-8 months. That 12% is big for budgeting purposes, especially when stacked on top of "normal" sales. I'm not doing punch sales anymore either; they feel a little demeaning to me. Even with Victoria 7 now available, can you believe that I'm actually considering to discontinue my PC membership for a year or so?
Your right that is exactly what I do I don't pay attention to the sale gimmicks anymore either. I check the fast grabs and my wish list if things aren't at least 50% off I don't bother with it...I figure all in good time everything eventually go on sale .. you just have to be patient and shop the thousands of other 3D sites in the mean time... I guess I'm old fashion . I shop competitively on what stores have the best deals and the stuff i can use immediately . I keep a $100 3D budget for each month where i spend it does not much matter to me. but it should to the many 3D stores that are on the internet. the things daz has going for them is that their newer characters are becoming less and less compatible with other software, so that does give daz a captive market for some of their products.
I'm not sure what happen sorry about the double post