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How to use G2F skin textures on G3F

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  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459

    I got the product but haven't had much time to play with it yet. Am I correct that it only works for characters using the base G2F UV, so it won't work for any of the Daz Characters (V6/Monique/Lilith etc) or is there a way to use them too, without having to go through a texture conversion? If so I'm hoping to see UVs for the iconic Daz G2F characters and V4. Not many of my characters seem to use the base UV.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,637
    3dLux said:

    Huge props to GiGi_7, Zebratech and Cybersox13 for mentioning the product and posting a sample.  Based on that alone I not only purchased it but also got several Generation 7 Pro sets blush  Am testing now and the conversions render well in Reality although Lilith doesn't seem to take (at least with the one test that I ran) in R4 but as it looks okay in D|S but it may in 3Delight and iRay, neither of which I render in.

    Props and much respect to this thread, which I've been lurking in since it started angel yes

    Lilith, along with the skins on most DO base figures has its own UVs, so will not work with this. Only G2F base skins work with the product

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,100

    This solves one of my major obstacles to moving to G3.

    GenX2 for G3 would remove another, and THEN maybe I'll migrate. (Though I wonder how doable it is, given the bones and whatnot)

    Geografts would still be a problem, but as it is I tend to use whichever Genesis has the geografts I need already, so that would just keep happening.

     

     

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,637
    captainklutz_a2ec859073 said:

    If this product works from G2F to G3F, is that going to cover V4 skins too?

     

     

    We do not know yet, you would need to ask the vendor. However since the first product is referred to as Volume 1, we can imply from that that further UVs will be supported in the future.

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    captainklutz_a2ec859073 said:

    If this product works from G2F to G3F, is that going to cover V4 skins too?

     

     

    I would think not, but it seems that the vendor intends to do this with other legacy uv's. For now, you could transfer a V4 texture to G2F, and then use that on this product.

  • captainklutz_a2ec859073captainklutz_a2ec859073 Posts: 196

    Yes, I suppose that is a work around.

    Thanks.

     

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    riftwitch said:
    captainklutz_a2ec859073 said:

    If this product works from G2F to G3F, is that going to cover V4 skins too?

     

     

    I would think not, but it seems that the vendor intends to do this with other legacy uv's. For now, you could transfer a V4 texture to G2F, and then use that on this product.

    As a two stage process it would.   It isn't that difficult to convert V4 to G2F and if that is done in stages (V4 > Genesis then Genesis > G2F) you end up with a V4 skin in G2F format.  Then you would convert THAT.  The first part doesn't even need anything other than the built in tools in Studio and maybe V5.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159

    ...if you have a way to transfer Gen4 skins to G2, I imagine you could then transfer them with this utility to G3.  Not sure it there would be any quality degradation though

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,628
    kyoto kid said:

    ...if you have a way to transfer Gen4 skins to G2, I imagine you could then transfer them with this utility to G3.  Not sure it there would be any quality degradation though

    The problem is that you'd be stretching the skin one way to go from V4 to G2, and then in a different way to go from G2 to G3, with the added complexity of having to match the all of edges to the geografted pieces. That's a lot of room for things to go wonky.  In the short term, the best option for V4 to G3F would seem to be Blacksmith3D.  

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited January 2016
    Cybersox13 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...if you have a way to transfer Gen4 skins to G2, I imagine you could then transfer them with this utility to G3.  Not sure it there would be any quality degradation though

    The problem is that you'd be stretching the skin one way to go from V4 to G2, and then in a different way to go from G2 to G3, with the added complexity of having to match the all of edges to the geografted pieces. That's a lot of room for things to go wonky.  In the short term, the best option for V4 to G3F would seem to be Blacksmith3D.  

    The Gen4 to G2 transition isn't that bad...on most skins.  It may not pass a bikini closeup shot...but it is definitely good enough for everyday use.  And some of the problem areas, like the back of the head/neck (an area I"ve had trouble with on some skins)  are usually hidden by hair.

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,637

    I am sure the vendor of the G2F UVs on G3F will do V4 if you are willing to wait. The product is top of the What's Hot list, so is clearly selling well, so the vendor has every reason to expand the list of supported UVs

  • ModernWizardModernWizard Posts: 904
    Havos said:

    I am sure the vendor of the G2F UVs on G3F will do V4 if you are willing to wait. The product is top of the What's Hot list, so is clearly selling well, so the vendor has every reason to expand the list of supported UVs

    I have purchased this product and tested it out. It does exactly as it says, and it's relatively easy to use, the easiest solution I've seen yet to the UV obstacle, so I'm thrilled.

    In fact, I was so thrilled that I wrote to Cayman Studios saying so and asking if there would be further UV sets offered. He wrote back promptly and said that he is working on a set of geografts that will make application of V4 UVs to G3F possible. So fear not -- V4 UVs [via geograft] for G3F appear to be coming soon!

    --MW

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Some of the texture for other characters will apply with some problem areas. I could apply Lilith quite nicely but no mei Lin or Monique. Stephanie applied with a slight issue on the arm. Not a big deal if the character is clothed.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,637
    ModernWizard said:
    Havos said:

    I am sure the vendor of the G2F UVs on G3F will do V4 if you are willing to wait. The product is top of the What's Hot list, so is clearly selling well, so the vendor has every reason to expand the list of supported UVs

    I have purchased this product and tested it out. It does exactly as it says, and it's relatively easy to use, the easiest solution I've seen yet to the UV obstacle, so I'm thrilled.

    In fact, I was so thrilled that I wrote to Cayman Studios saying so and asking if there would be further UV sets offered. He wrote back promptly and said that he is working on a set of geografts that will make application of V4 UVs to G3F possible. So fear not -- V4 UVs [via geograft] for G3F appear to be coming soon!

    --MW

     

    That is great news thanks for letting us know, I hope he is also working on UVs for G3M as well. There are very few male skins for Genesis 3 at the moment, and in a way, they need this technology even more than G3F

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    Cybersox13 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...if you have a way to transfer Gen4 skins to G2, I imagine you could then transfer them with this utility to G3.  Not sure it there would be any quality degradation though

    The problem is that you'd be stretching the skin one way to go from V4 to G2, and then in a different way to go from G2 to G3, with the added complexity of having to match the all of edges to the geografted pieces. That's a lot of room for things to go wonky.  In the short term, the best option for V4 to G3F would seem to be Blacksmith3D.  

    ...yeah thought about that too afterwards, was just a thought.  I'll wait to see what develops on this front as 57$ (for the base + add on) is a bit rich for my budget.  Again, I have Skin Builder Pro for G2F as well so won't be hurting for textures.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    mjc1016 said:
    Cybersox13 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...if you have a way to transfer Gen4 skins to G2, I imagine you could then transfer them with this utility to G3.  Not sure it there would be any quality degradation though

    The problem is that you'd be stretching the skin one way to go from V4 to G2, and then in a different way to go from G2 to G3, with the added complexity of having to match the all of edges to the geografted pieces. That's a lot of room for things to go wonky.  In the short term, the best option for V4 to G3F would seem to be Blacksmith3D.  

    The Gen4 to G2 transition isn't that bad...on most skins.  It may not pass a bikini closeup shot...but it is definitely good enough for everyday use.  And some of the problem areas, like the back of the head/neck (an area I"ve had trouble with on some skins)  are usually hidden by hair.

    ...my characters are clothed (not with skimpwear) so yeah, any "problem areas" will probably be covered.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,433

    has anyone tried this product with G3M and G2M skins?

  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459

    The script requires a G3F figure, and the product will only work correctly for applying skins that use the G2F base UV

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    I have skin builder too, is that the g2f base uv?

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,637

    yes

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    Checking this out now lol

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451
    edited January 2016

    Is there a different product required? I bought t but get errors when close clicking on prepare g3f it says it's missing all these files and when it loads she's got cubes all over her 

    edit *found the issue I forgot to copy over a file

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Sounds like files may be in the wrong location. Check your file installation paths and reinstall and reboot your daz studio.

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    I completely missed an entire folder when copying folders from the zip, playing with it now it seems to work great 

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    Sadly skin builder doesn't work with this, it uses V5 UV maps :(

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I hope with the success of this product to see more in this vein. I'm actually a bit surprised a pa here has not come up with a solution. I'm looking forward to the male version.

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    Hopefully it will come, I didn't realize how many venders used the G2F base uv's, that or V4 or V5, it's definitely worth the money

  • 3dLux3dLux Posts: 1,231
    edited February 2016
    Havos said:
    3dLux said:

    Huge props to GiGi_7, Zebratech and Cybersox13 for mentioning the product and posting a sample.  Based on that alone I not only purchased it but also got several Generation 7 Pro sets blush  Am testing now and the conversions render well in Reality although Lilith doesn't seem to take (at least with the one test that I ran) in R4 but as it looks okay in D|S but it may in 3Delight and iRay, neither of which I render in.

    Props and much respect to this thread, which I've been lurking in since it started angel yes

    Lilith, along with the skins on most DO base figures has its own UVs, so will not work with this. Only G2F base skins work with the product

    Thanks for the heads up, Havos yes

    Did a test using the Cayman Studios' plugin using Sasha 7, Teen Josie 7 and Skyler.  Bought the Sasha and Teen Josie 7 during the second day of the sale because I was happy with the results of my tests, which can't be posted here because of the TOS angel

    This test can, though, and all the figures use V6 Anna skin, which comes with the Victoria 6 HD add-on. Rendered in Reality 4.1 with default settings.

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159

    ...anyone tried porting over a skin made with Skin Builder Pro for G2F yet?

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    Skin builder uses the V5 UV's so sadly it doesn't work.

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