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Victoria 7 is only four days old and already there are four characters for her. G2F had too many with little variation in appearance. Is G3F gonna repeat the same trend?
Personally, I think G3F needs quite a few texture sets rather quickly as there is currently no way to use existing character textures from G2, G1, or even V4. Also, there is likely now the same trend we had with the male models previously: some PAs not providing genital textures as they are now different from the torso map. So that may limit the selection to buy from further.
But I also agree that there needs some good variety and I am desperately looking forward to the first Asian slanted characters. Asian characters will arrive soon enough though as they are quite popular among the different ethnic groups of characters.
I'd prefer quality over quantity. Its sad that you have to go outside this store to find really distinctive looking characters and textures for Daz's own models. Syyd over at runtimedna is producing some of the best textures and morphs and they're for V4!
I've got the "girl-next-door/pinup/fairy" pretty much nailed down.
PA's not providing genital textures is frustrating, it should be specified in the product description.
What would be nice is if someone got ahead of the curve and did layered skin, so you could have, say, base complexion and color, and then add details like freckles and whatnot.
It's a little annoying that, say, every instance of the base skin has freckles in exactly the same places, and the only way to change that is a completely new skin.
(This is something I can do in G1/G2 with Skin Builder and Skin Overlay, for example)
Will we see 3delight specific designed skins? I am not on the Iray bandwagon, and v7 base skin seems more optimized for Iray, which I don't use.
As long as the texture set includes good specular, bump, and SSS strength maps it work for either Iray or 3Delight. I like the idea of a layered set and it would probably appeal more to pros DAZ is hoping to pull in.
Here is a quick test render I did using Tatijana and, her bracelets with Iray (using the Iray shaders that come with her). I thinks she definitely has a different look than V7, and most of the standard fair for G2F.
I really hope the classic DazO Evolution Muscularity http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-muscularity isn't skipped again in this generation. Such an important ingredient to custom characters, was so peeved they didn't do it for genesis 2 when it launched XD
Syyd's already got a morph pack out for G3F. Actually it's a combined product of face morphs for G2F as well as G3F.
I'm suddenly wondering whether the adoption of what apparently are wider-used standards in G3 isn't going to pay dividends in seeing content vendors decide to take the plunge.
Remember, Genesis 1 shipped with a new, award-winning rigging system, but a wide range of the vendor artists wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole. They only gingerly started developing for Genesis once G2 had shipped. And then they developed for G2. And it's gaining traction.
Still working on getting her to look the way I want. The morphs are very nice and versatile, I think. She is slowly getting there... Will likely have to push her over to ZBrush for some minor changes...
Ciao
TD
Seeing as this is the "Hate and discontent" thread, let me open another can of worms, lol.
There was a cool product called "Beautiful Bends" for G2F.
http://www.daz3d.com/beautiful-bends-for-genesis-2-female-s
With how every one 'Loves' how V7 poses, what is the likelihood for a similar product for G3F, or is it not needed with the extra bones in the rigging?
I have tried downloading the Genesis 3 Female Starter Essentials several times and when I try to load the Victoria 7 in Daz Studio 4.8 I get these errors:
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/PHMMouthRealismHD.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Genesis3Female.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/PBMNavel.dsf
DS loads a figure but is a robot looking thing with square blocks..anyone know why?
Thank You
When I double click on Victoria 7 I just get a block fiqure in my scene! I totally deleted the product and redownloaded the product and it does the exact same thing it shows in the tab that product is missing and the base is one of them in a list of 3 items that are missing! What do I need to do?
What the blocky figure means, is (usually) that DAZ Studio cannot find your 'data' folder.
First of all, you have to make sure that G3F (and/or V7) is installed to where you think it has installed to. If you used DIM to install these figures, it installs by default into C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library and that path needs to belisted in bothe DS and Poser Formats in Edit > Preferences > Content Library > Content Directory Manager.
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What JimmyC_2009 said as well.
No it just shows the list above which I copy and pasted the error..the image thumbnail shows up in the library of Victoria 7 but it wont load. Everything is updated so I dont know what is going on here.
Thank you for trying to help..I will have to figure out what the problem is.
Thank you Jimmy! I will look to see what paths are being used! Thank you!
They refer to this: https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files/prod/21630/
The starter Essentials, it's a download of about 500mb.
If you do have those files installed but DS can't find them, whqat is the full path to those files?
Her skin isn't the best in 3delight in my opinion, but everyone's mileage may vary. I Would love some 3delight optimized textures. I am pleased people like IRay, but since using V6 and V5 textures are barred from us, at least presently, would love some content designed to look best in 3delight.
Her skin isn't the best in 3delight in my opinion, but everyone's mileage may vary. I Would love some 3delight optimized textures. I am pleased people like IRay, but since using V6 and V5 textures are barred from us, at least presently, would love some content designed to look best in 3delight.
I know what you mean... while i love her iray mats her 3Delight ones are really dark. They don't really match at all.
I just am used to getting better results from base figures for my time. I do like V7's shape, just not her mats.
I think some of the other characters like FWSA Adaline do a better job of reaching the 3delight market.
I'm tweaking some mats for her 3delight settings. I wish they looked as good as the iray settings. I still totally heart 3delight.
Tho i get awesome results in Iray... squee.
Her skin isn't the best in 3delight in my opinion, but everyone's mileage may vary. I Would love some 3delight optimized textures. I am pleased people like IRay, but since using V6 and V5 textures are barred from us, at least presently, would love some content designed to look best in 3delight.
Diffuse maps are just fine...it's the shader that's not...it's set up way 'hot'...it's almost like she's half 'glow bug'.
Plus I think it is 'linear'...which if Gamma is 'off' would definitely produce odd results in 3DL.
IMO you can't just use the same settings, because a lot is affected by the skin tone and i often tweaked the AoA shaders that came with figures. There's a couple i barely tweaked but not that many!
And my goal is to make the AoA shader materials match the look in iray, at least for the V7 mats. granted it'll vary depending on lights but working on it :)
IMO you can't just use the same settings, because a lot is affected by the skin tone and i often tweaked the AoA shaders that came with figures. There's a couple i barely tweaked but not that many!
And my goal is to make the AoA shader materials match the look in iray, at least for the V7 mats. granted it'll vary depending on lights but working on it :) Agreed, I was not implying copying them, Just a general idea of where to begin. And as mjc1016 pointed at, things like 100% reflection strength (or was it Specular strength in the AoA), and Diffuse Strength of 50% isn't always best for skin, lol. I think some one got the numbers backwards, lol.
Most former mats have a Diffuse strength 90% or above, Reflection Strength less then 15% on skin, etc
They refer to this: https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files/prod/21630/
The starter Essentials, it's a download of about 500mb.
Yes that is the item that I loaded and it seems to have loaded in the correct path or I wouldnt be getting that V7 png to load inside my content library within DS.
Is anyone else having this issue or is there some other item I failed to install that is needed?
Thanks so much for any help on this.
Please see attached image. Thank you