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That's a bummer. Whenever I install something from Rendo with Content Wizard I ALWAYS abbreviate to G8F, G3M, etc. It's can be a pain to fix compatibility for stuff from other stores, so just typing G8 into search is a quick way to find what I'm looking for.
I just spent awhile working on my content management again. Yeah there were all those numbered poses, etc. Then there were so many folders hidden under other folders, etc. I just want to make art.
I want to buy this pose set.
My personal thought would be, "Winged Nude" is a useful/meaningful name to some people. "Makeup 01" doesn't mean anything to anyone. Where "Winged style 1", "Winged style 2" at least gives you a general expectation of what it will be.
I've had success using "8F" to represent Genesis 8 Female in naming my poses when submitting them, but I have not tried "G8F" (mostly because I'd seen that it was frowned upon). Hopefully I'm able to continue doing that, since it's nice and short while giving an idea of who it's for.
I've definitely considered naming the poses and expressions based on something more descriptive, but ended up sticking to numbers for simplicity's sake and not being sure what to call them. (Smile? Slight Smile? Smirk?) If even simple names would help, I'd definitely consider adding those to future pose sets, though.
I do use TIP files, and I add the thumbnails to the expression dials as well. (They're super tiny... but when working with other expressions I've found I preferred having at least a tiny image idea to work from more helpful than just "smile" named across a number of expressions... especially when the particular "smile" looks more nervous to me than genuinely happy. Still useful... just a different kind of smile).
Also, I now too like the idea of a pose set with fun naming conventions... like that "Stepped on a Lego" one.
Poses, e.g. I am personally fine with the "by function" option and one could do the same with expressions. But....
THIS!!!
At least give us the option to categorize them in batches by a new "Generation" category. In general I think the category category (hm....) could be improved. E.g. if I categorize a material as "Iray" it should get a "MDL" tag applied to the icon in the library.
Which brings me to the point of tags: it would be helpful if these were assignable by the user and stick with the files even when moved to another folder. Some older presets and characters I created on an older version of DS suddenly lost their "tag" along the way and there is no way to get it back.
Although it needs to be said, that the issue of this topic is not with DAZ per se but the varios respective vendors/creators if products in general simply would be blessed with the indicated attention before pushing to store, it would be nice to have better options and also documentation in oprganizing products or creating your own.
I always wondered why DAZ doesn't use easy identifiers, like
Generation- Male/female -Name of figure morph/Pose/Expression/Hair/Outfit -Name of texture oder color, if provided - 3DL and/or Iray
Like: G2M-Michael-poses-sitting-posenumber (if there are several sitting poses)
Would make life easier for users, would make cataloging easier for PAs and users and Smart Content.
But no, probabely too easy. We would have far too few forum threads if we had no reason to complain anymore.
I now wonder whether it'd be technically possible to script in transparent overlays on top of the images in Smart Content, so we could add tags ourselves with just two clicks on top of those images there.
There are really HUNDREDS of products by now which include both G3 and G8 versions, with no clear or convenient indication on their icons or names to tell them apart. It's most common for poses, but for hair and clothes it's at least as inconvenient. "Uhmmm, nothing happens, is it still loading, or did I pick the wrong one?" Then wait for a whole unproductive minute to get your answer..
Actually, it is a tad faster to right click, browse to folder, and then apply either this or the other one - a tad, as said, but this is whI find doing myself all the time and it shows the urgent need for something more 2020 ....
Oh, aren't we? I'm pretty sure and like Ron Knights I added this on basically all the poses bought externally and prepared the .zips for "regular" installation via DIM. Btw. while I'm at hijacking this: is there a way to create the manifest or .duf in a way such poses install with the correct categorisation from the start without browsing the unassigned section and do that manually?
So I copy, it's a political, not technical limitation. Not that political decisions are wise by nature, as we do know.....
May I suggest giving Gen3/8 o shot when occasion comes up? ;) Whether it is M or F usually can be identified by the icon quite clearly.
they created this mess by splitting the genders instead of finding a way to make clothing creation easier for either on a unisex figure
people come in all shapes and sizes and IMO a unisex figure is better for that
Numbered poses and expressions are a pain in you_know_where... Especially with the thumbnails being so small that you cannot really see what it is trying to show and I only have 1920x1200 monitors.
Going through Expression 01 to 35, one by one just to see what they are...
I appreciate everyone's input. I was afraid I was the only one bothered by this problem.
Not "political", but commercial. Daz wants to promote the Genesis brand.
Understandable. But on the other hand, they are hurting their brand with this crappy policy. EITHER get the damn SmartContent right, so that the software can "decide" which e.g material or pose I need to use, OR allow the PA's to propperly label the things. Best way: do both. Currently, its trial and error, or takes extra time.
They have lost quite a LOT of commerce already by treating their customer base as they do. A store "upgrade" that (ab)used the customers as beta testers, unclear or misleading promo advertizing, overpricing cut-down bundles, products that never have seen QA / QC, tickets that remain in the CS queue until Judgement Day.... you name it.
You could group them, but a single item/product can belong to only a single group (and the new flags are a group so you'd need to turn them off, at least for updates to content you'd already grouped by figure). Filter by Conext should help when viewing files, but not when looking inside a product container.
This annoys me as well. I have a few different items (hair, clothing) that are made for both G3 and G8, but until I open the "Additional Information" tab, I don't know which preset is for which generation. A simple "G3" or "G8" on the thumbnail would be very helpful.
But, all the filtering on context relies on PROPER SmartContent metadata. I have bought about 150 products during PA and PC+ sale, including NEW items. NOT A SINGLE ONE had correct metadata
I was struggling with this the other day. A dozen numbered hair colours in the Content Library pane; four almost identical dark browns, four only slightly different near-blondes, a black and a few reds. All the blondes came out as different kinds of light mousy brown. I was looking for a nice bright yellow, like the Buttercup shade in the UHT Hair Shaders set, and eventually I used that, because none of the presets that came with the hair actually used textures that matched the content thumbnail. Actual named colours would have made my search a lot easier.
If there were four shades of dark brown though, what names would have made it better? I do agree I prefer when you at least get categories like blonde, brown, and gray, especially when it can be hard in thumbnails to tell gray from blonde, depending on lighting and close ups. But at least if the thumbnail looked blonde but said light brown you would know it wasn't a misunderstanding or a product error.
Well. hair colour manufacturers come up with quite nice names already. Mahogany, Chestnut, Caramel, etc... why not name hair colours accordingly? I do understand that PA's would rather focus on the artwork on their product, but giving a hair colour a unique name is an added value, and might, in the long run, boost sales. If I know a given PA is doing excellent work (not just artwork, but delivering the whole package), I might consider new products an instant buy.
if "we" includes Renderosity...yes
I know a sight impared user who frequently asks me on FB messenger what colour a hair or eye is because the DAZ vendor only uses numbers
some people actually use DAZ stuff due to vision problems for doing illustrations
That's a good point. More descriptive names would help people with color blindness or other visual difficulties. TIP files would help with that too - I've always created TIP files for my products (and actually figured it was a requirement) so I just figured other PAs did too. I didn't realize until was mentioned here that some PAs don't create them.
I would find simple names like that super helpful! The naming for the Daz expression dials are actually really good this way, because with names like "Smile Simple" and "Smile Mouth Open" I can be pretty sure how the pose dial will move the face. All the emotion dials have straightforward names too.
Mod Edit :-to sort out the quote.
I'm not sure what happened with the quote there, but I didn't say that. :)