New Daz House Cat with dForce Hair?
vonHobo
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Does anyone know if there will ever be a new version of this cat released? The present one just does not look natural. Furthermore, I don't even use dForce because it takes so long to simulate, especially clothing. So dForce on a cat seems useless to me.
https://www.daz3d.com/daz-house-cat-with-dforce-hair
My objective is to use a cat in my scenes, in the background, and I've seen some nice examples using this cat. But for anything up close, excuse me, it's just godawful! The legs do not look in proportion and the cat's face does not look very natural to me. Maybe it's just the product promo renders that are not very convincing?
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We're hoping for a new Daz Cat eventually.
Hivewire havea more up todate one with LAMH fur.
Thank you! Is it on DAZ or another site?
Do you have a link by chance?
Here
https://hivewire3d.com/hivewire-house-cat.html
https://hivewire3d.com/lamh-presets-for-the-hivewire-house-cat.html
Thank you so much. I did indeed managed to find them with a Google Search.
Beautiful cats, but I just realized that I won't be able to use the House Cat poses from DAZ on this cat. Rats!
The one pose product, https://www.daz3d.com/cat-and-girl-poses-for-genesis-8-female is what I really need so it's a must. I guess I will wait for DAZ to update the cat with something new and hopefully better.
I couldn't get the LAMH to work with Catalyst. I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it, though. The squirrel that does work with Catalyst crashed DS, and I haven't returned to all that LAMH stuff.
Catalyzer only works with Catalyzer presets, not regular LAMH.
Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to get the DAZ House Cat now, and just hope they release a better figure in the future.
The HW cat is really cute, but without Catalyzer capability, LAMH fur is just entirely too heavy to deal with in Iray.
That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up!
Just wish someone would design a decent housecat for DAZ Studio. :)
I was rendering the Orangutan when I saw this thread and I had a look and found I had the cat too.
O.R. Angutan and Mapal the Cat
2020-07-19 21:35:30.709 Total Rendering Time: 19 minutes 9.42 seconds
I was rendering the Orangutan when I saw this thread and I had a look and found I had the cat too.
O.R. Angutan and Mapal the Cat
2020-07-19 21:35:30.709 Total Rendering Time: 19 minutes 9.42 seconds
Click on image for full size.
well I render billboards of LAMH critters (animated ones to use in other softwares) obviously not as simple for DAZ studio which doesn't have animated textures and png alphas by default but certainly still images it should be doable
the 3delight fur looks much nicer than anything iray
I use Iray and I prefer the Catalyzer hair to the Dforce hair. As far as I can remember the LAMH hair renders quicker in 3Delight, I have used it to make billboards too :)
Leo the Lion and Friend.
2020-06-24 18:37:55.592 Total Rendering Time: 32 minutes 9.41 seconds
Dforce hair on left, Catalyzer hair on right.
Click on image for full size.
You state you don;t use Dforce yet the title says you are looking for a new cat WITH dforce, talk about confused. If a new cat does come out, what makes you think it will be up to your expectations more than the existing one?
You state that your use is for scenes in the background, so I am not sure I see the issue
I dunno, depending on the scene and what's in it I find it works fine. the BIG problem with the catalyzer for me is that it will only work on the animals that AM allows it to work on, which are his animals, so I am hoping that the HW devs start coming out with dforce presets instead for their animals.
I did this kitty last year with the long hair LAMH preset and while it could have been fuller, it worked fine in iray and rendered very fast.
You sound a bit upset. Not sure why.
I was just asking if there was a better cat available. That's all. It does not have to have dForce, nor do you have to use dForce with dForce products. I use them all the time.
Nice renders but the images are quite dark, I recommend bringing in more light or adjusting the render settings so that the figures can be seen better. :)
Very nice render!
Nice render! I did not see the cat at first until I noticed the white paws. :)
The title does not say I am looking for a cat with dForce hair. The current cat available is titled "DAZ House Cat with dForce Hair", and I used that as the title for the forum question.
I am not confused and I don't think it's polite to say that in this forum.
However, if a new cat is released and it is not better than the present one, I simply won't purchase it. But in my experience, when DAZ releases a new version of something, such as DAZ Horse 2, it is an improvement on the previous version. Why else would they go to the trouble of designing something new?
Not upset and not trying to be rude, just to understand and try and give a solution. The thread title says "New Daz House Cat with dForce Hair?" which implies to me that you are looking (asking hence the question mark) for a new one WITH dforce hair, yet you then state you don't use dforce and I was the one confused, not saying you where. Anyhoo, hope you find a solution to your issue.
FYI the big cat 2 was not an improvement, especially with the feet, LOL
Good lord, those flat feet. OMG.
No problem. Thank you for clarifying and I do certainly appreciate the help!
Not a huge fan of the Big Cat 2 either. I'm beginning to think that cats are difficult to represent in 3D, although AM does a nice job with the Felidae Lion. I'm a cat lover, so that's why I am being so particular.
the HW3D cat works with most Milcat poses though
Thank you. I might try that.
I agree. The images are so dark, I can't see any details at all. Diva's recommendations are right on target, I think.
I badly wish I could use the house cat in all honesty... but any time I try to render dforce hair it completely crash the program to desktop, and at times completely crash the computer.. my poor machine can't handle that hair.
It's a touch and go for me with Catalyzer, but it tend to work after a couple of tries/crashes. Ordinary LAMH don't work at all... so any time I render a cat it is without fur :(
does catalyzer only work with cat fur ?
or will it work with dog fur too ?
in which case it should be renamed CatNdogalyzer
you deserve to be shot for that pun
I have basically given up cat renders. I have tried to force sucessive cat models into the shape of my cats & failed miserably. I suppose that fact my favorite cat (in my avatar) really was a volleyball sized sphere with a cat front & rear end attached has meant nothing believable can even begin to represent his shape (because, who in all honesty would expect a cat to be that shape?). We now have a pair of Maine Coon cross cats, and nothing looks close to their shape. To be honest, from some angles in some draped & twisted poses they don't even look like cats... Recently one of ours was sleeping in an armchair, he had a 90 degee twist on his spine so his back legs were up the back of the chair while his head & front paws were parallel to the squab. Then, he also had another 90 degree bend in his back so his tummy was pressed against both the arm and back of the chair. His spine must be totally disarticulated - or have a 'limits' setting permanently set to 'off'.
Regards,
Richard.