any experience with Janna original figure?

Vyusur

Sevrin said:

Vyusur said:

Janna is compatible with most of Genesis 8 poses and animation. Here is an example of her compatibility with Genesis 8 walk-cycle.

If someone interested in, Genesis 8 clone for Janna is available on the other site.

@Vyusur

Did you do something special with the hip rigging?  Janna's walk animation seems more natural for a woman than what you see with Genesis.  Male and female genesis figures have their hips configured the same way, i.e., their pivot is close together like men, whereas women's pelvis are typically wider and that affects gait.

Yes, Janna's hip pivots are wider. The whole rigging of my figures is different from Genesis.

Sevrin

Vyusur said:

Sevrin said:

Vyusur said:

Janna is compatible with most of Genesis 8 poses and animation. Here is an example of her compatibility with Genesis 8 walk-cycle.

If someone interested in, Genesis 8 clone for Janna is available on the other site.

@Vyusur

Did you do something special with the hip rigging?  Janna's walk animation seems more natural for a woman than what you see with Genesis.  Male and female genesis figures have their hips configured the same way, i.e., their pivot is close together like men, whereas women's pelvis are typically wider and that affects gait.

Yes, Janna's hip pivots are wider. The whole rigging of my figures is different from Genesis.

Bravo.  Nicely done.  I had just looked at some motion capture walking animations for Genesis 8 and there is a very noticeable difference.  I don't animate my characters, but it makes a difference in posing, as well. 

I suppose Daz traded realism for simplicity.  I hope they correct this in the next iteration of Genesis.

dennisgray41

Vyusur said:

Janna is compatible with most of Genesis 8 poses and animation. Here is an example of her compatibility with Genesis 8 walk-cycle.

If someone interested in, Genesis 8 clone for Janna is available on the other site.

What other site?

As an expert on the subject, could you answer the question about why she is a stand alone?

 

Sevrin

dennisgray41 said:

Vyusur said:

Janna is compatible with most of Genesis 8 poses and animation. Here is an example of her compatibility with Genesis 8 walk-cycle.

If someone interested in, Genesis 8 clone for Janna is available on the other site.

What other site?

As an expert on the subject, could you answer the question about why she is a stand alone?

 

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/207651/experiments-discovery-and-experience#latest

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/169001/vyusur-s-studio-experiments#latest

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/366356/veronika-yet-another-custom-figure-in-store-wow

 

Vyusur

Sevrin said:

Vyusur said:

Sevrin said:

Vyusur said:

Janna is compatible with most of Genesis 8 poses and animation. Here is an example of her compatibility with Genesis 8 walk-cycle.

If someone interested in, Genesis 8 clone for Janna is available on the other site.

@Vyusur

Did you do something special with the hip rigging?  Janna's walk animation seems more natural for a woman than what you see with Genesis.  Male and female genesis figures have their hips configured the same way, i.e., their pivot is close together like men, whereas women's pelvis are typically wider and that affects gait.

Yes, Janna's hip pivots are wider. The whole rigging of my figures is different from Genesis.

Bravo.  Nicely done.  I had just looked at some motion capture walking animations for Genesis 8 and there is a very noticeable difference.  I don't animate my characters, but it makes a difference in posing, as well. 

I suppose Daz traded realism for simplicity.  I hope they correct this in the next iteration of Genesis.

Thank you so much for your comments and for your opinion.

 

Greybro

Diomede said:

Hollywood lore says that once Burt Lancaster became a big enough star to have a say in his own career, he planned to invest his time in about two movies per year.  One he would make to pay the bills, and these were often swashbucklers and similar popcorn movies that took advantage of his looks and athleticism.  The second movie was often a movie he wanted to make for his own satisfaction.  These second movies often had smaller probable audiences, and made use of his dramatic talents.  Fortunately for those of us who are movie fans, quite a few of the movies he made to satisfy himself found an audience and became widely distributed and preserved.

 

Check out VYusur's store.  Its not limited to pretty white women (and no one said it did, but their was a reference to ethnicity).  Perhaps there is an easy answer for why she would make a few stand alone figures.  Because she can direct her own efforts to some extent, and because she derives satisfaction from the effort, and because there are those of us who feel comfortable with stand alone figures.

The Swimmer always stuck with me as a poignant example of story telling. Burt was a real artist in my estimation.

Burt Lancaster said of this film in an interview with 'Take 22': "...the whole film was a disaster, Columbia was down on it. I personally paid $10,000 out of my own pocket for the last day of shooting. I was furious with Sam Spiegel because he was over at Cannes playing gin with Anatole Litvak whilst he was doing The Night of the Generals (1967). Sam had promised me, personally promised me to be there every single weekend to go over the film, because we had certain basic problems - the casting and so forth. He never showed up one time. I could have killed him, I was so angry with him. And finally Columbia pulled the plug on us. But we needed another day of shooting - so I paid for it".

nicstt

wolf359 said:

nicstt said:

I've always been curious about the motivation of producing a stand-alone figure.

 

Mechs/Droids I understand. ...but a young ,white ,human stand alone, female in this market is .....puzzling .

Yup.

Vyusur

nicstt said:

wolf359 said:

nicstt said:

I've always been curious about the motivation of producing a stand-alone figure.

 

Mechs/Droids I understand. ...but a young ,white ,human stand alone, female in this market is .....puzzling .

Yup.

I'm adding choices, not subtracting.

 

Sevrin

nicstt said:

wolf359 said:

nicstt said:

I've always been curious about the motivation of producing a stand-alone figure.

 

Mechs/Droids I understand. ...but a young ,white ,human stand alone, female in this market is .....puzzling .

Yup.

Genesis 8 poses work.  We can buy a clone to fit G8F and G3F clothes and hair.   It seems the idea of a standalone figure is morally offensive.  Perhaps the PA should be whipped and made an example of?

WendyLuvsCatz

like... there is such an utter shortage of white female characters for genesis 8 

I know I haven't bought Jana yet but I certainly have no issues with her existence

just

b u y   s o m e t h i n g   e l s e   y o u   w a n t 

and sidenote

if you say "but none of the other genesis 8 females look like Jana" (Pikachu face) 

uhmmmm of course not, they are a different mesh with different topology (rolls eyes)

thats why Veronika has the artistic license to do something she wants without the limitations of the DAZ 8 Unimesh

Mistara

The more i work with Janna, the more i appreciate how brilliantly she was made.

Diomede

Mystiarra said:

The more i work with Janna, the more i appreciate how brilliantly she was made.

+1