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  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    kenshaw011267 said:
    Jack Tomalin said:
    rrward said:

    The only thing stopping me from looking at AMD is finding a motherboard with enough PCIe slots to fit my 3 video cards. I found one, but the reviews were terrifying.

    I have the Asus X399 ROG Zenith Extreme AMD X399 (Socket TR4) E-ATX Motherboard, running 3 x 2080Ti's fine, if that helps.

    My Asus Prime X370 has 3 full length slots. I'm pretty sure Asus does 3 full length slots on most of their higher end boards. 

    It's not the number of full-length slots, it's the placement. Too many boards are designed with only dual GPU considerations. The X399 ROG Zenith Extreme looks perfect, but seems to no longer be available.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,013
    kenshaw011267 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ..again the AMD CPU will not help with dForce 

    kenshaw011267 said:

    Intel are the guys who make you get a new motherboard every time they change CPU's. I bought an X370 motherboard 2 and a half years ago when I get the R7 1700. Last year when the R7 2700 came out I did a UEFI update and dropped the new chip into the same mobo. I didn't upgrade to Ryzen 3000 because I wanted tosee what the 3950 was like and supply has been pretty short. This spring/summer I'll either get one of the 3000's or the new 4000's without changing motherboards.

    Has there ever been a time when you could use the same Intel chipset through 2 tic tock cycles?

    ...this is why I'm still running a Westmere 6 core/12 thread CPU on an PT6 MB with three memory channels.  If I went AMD, I'd want an X399 and Threadripper CPU (both which are expensive at least for my budget) so I'd have four memory channels (Intel boards went 4 channel back with Sandy Bridge [i7] and Ivy Bridge [Xeon]).

    The "i7" with quad channel was always Intel's HEDT part, just like TR is for AMD. You'd need, variously, X79, X99 or X299 motherboards to get quad channel. If you really did want quad channel and are on a budget then TR is definitely the way to go. The 1900X, 8c/16t is $150 and X399 motherboards are $300 and that will be coming down as the new TR chips are on a different chipset.

    ...disregard that first statement, got a bit mixed up with another thread I was on and forgot to clear the draft.

    For now I am content with three memory channels as it is still more efficient.  Unless I get a windfall, (so I can also afford the LSTC version of W10 Enterprise) there will be no new system in near future.  There is a way to "spoof" a first gen Ryzen CPU into working with W7, but not a Threadripper. 

     

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    rrward said:
    kenshaw011267 said:
    Jack Tomalin said:
    rrward said:

    The only thing stopping me from looking at AMD is finding a motherboard with enough PCIe slots to fit my 3 video cards. I found one, but the reviews were terrifying.

    I have the Asus X399 ROG Zenith Extreme AMD X399 (Socket TR4) E-ATX Motherboard, running 3 x 2080Ti's fine, if that helps.

    My Asus Prime X370 has 3 full length slots. I'm pretty sure Asus does 3 full length slots on most of their higher end boards. 

    It's not the number of full-length slots, it's the placement. Too many boards are designed with only dual GPU considerations. The X399 ROG Zenith Extreme looks perfect, but seems to no longer be available.

    NewEgg has it

    https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-zenith-extreme-alpha/p/N82E16813119186?item=N82E16813119186&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813119186&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImsua1LSO5gIVjtdkCh3IpgBNEAQYASABEgJy9PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    So does Amazon

    https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-Extreme-Motherboard-Threadripper/dp/B07M6SD5GP/ref=asc_df_B07M6SD5GP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312760964359&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15238019594615703204&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021744&hvtargid=pla-625872643188&psc=1

  • JVRendererJVRenderer Posts: 664
    76Claudia2205 said:

    Compiled the components, considerd most of the advise, we might get a 2nd GPU next year if prices drop to resonable but for now it should be a hell of alot better that what we have now. I will let you all know how it goes , should take a couple of day to get it build (let a company build it i get a year extra warranty)  

     

    1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3700X socket AM4 

    1 x Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB cooler

    1 x Corsair 32 GB DDR4-2400 Kit 

    1 x MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER VENTUS OC 

    1 x Samsung 860 EVO, 1 TB SSD

    1 x Corsair RM750X (2018), 750 Watt  powersuply

    1 x GIGABYTE AORUS X470 Ultra Gaming, socket AM4 motherboard

    1 x Fractal Design Focus G tower 

     

    Ill updat as soon as we have the pc total kost  was around the 1500euro we intented to spend. 

    Again thanks for all the advis

    Hi Claudia,

    If you consider a second  RTX 2070 super GPU, I would seriously recommend you to get a higher wattage PSU. The minimun recommended PSU for one RTX 2070 super is 650W.  for two GPU's Perhaps a 850W or even a 1000W (80 Plus Silver or Gold).

    JV

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    kenshaw011267 said:
    rrward said:
    kenshaw011267 said:
    Jack Tomalin said:
    rrward said:

    The only thing stopping me from looking at AMD is finding a motherboard with enough PCIe slots to fit my 3 video cards. I found one, but the reviews were terrifying.

    I have the Asus X399 ROG Zenith Extreme AMD X399 (Socket TR4) E-ATX Motherboard, running 3 x 2080Ti's fine, if that helps.

    My Asus Prime X370 has 3 full length slots. I'm pretty sure Asus does 3 full length slots on most of their higher end boards. 

    It's not the number of full-length slots, it's the placement. Too many boards are designed with only dual GPU considerations. The X399 ROG Zenith Extreme looks perfect, but seems to no longer be available.

    Okay. Thanks. I was looking at the non-Alpha version.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    JVRenderer said:
    76Claudia2205 said:

    Compiled the components, considerd most of the advise, we might get a 2nd GPU next year if prices drop to resonable but for now it should be a hell of alot better that what we have now. I will let you all know how it goes , should take a couple of day to get it build (let a company build it i get a year extra warranty)  

     

    1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3700X socket AM4 

    1 x Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB cooler

    1 x Corsair 32 GB DDR4-2400 Kit 

    1 x MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER VENTUS OC 

    1 x Samsung 860 EVO, 1 TB SSD

    1 x Corsair RM750X (2018), 750 Watt  powersuply

    1 x GIGABYTE AORUS X470 Ultra Gaming, socket AM4 motherboard

    1 x Fractal Design Focus G tower 

     

    Ill updat as soon as we have the pc total kost  was around the 1500euro we intented to spend. 

    Again thanks for all the advis

    Hi Claudia,

    If you consider a second  RTX 2070 super GPU, I would seriously recommend you to get a higher wattage PSU. The minimun recommended PSU for one RTX 2070 super is 650W.  for two GPU's Perhaps a 850W or even a 1000W (80 Plus Silver or Gold).

    JV

    Yeah, if you are really serious about using multiple GPUs you should bump that PSU up some. A 750 W might handle two more modest GPUs, but if you going with high performance cards I'd go up some here. I have a 1000W PSU powering my two 1080tis. It gives more options, because some of these cards like 2080ti are pretty large dies that can gulp down some juice. Its not as bad as some of the crazy power hungry cards we had some years ago, but if chiplet designs become a thing (rumored for next-next gen, not Ampere), we could see an uptick in power consumption if they decide to go wild with them. Plus because of how Nvidia is designing their GPUs with 3 different cores, that could mean bigger chips. RTX dies are indeed bigger than Pascal dies in part because of these extra RT and Tensor cores taking up space.

    So even though next gen should see a node shrink, that may not translate to cards that use less power.

  • 76Claudia220576Claudia2205 Posts: 40

    Hi, 

    thanks all for your ideas and tips  

    PC-partpicker list : estimated power usage 629 watt

    We ended up with this system it's build and running super fast and render times went from hours to minutes verry happy with it.

    Thanks evryone for the advise ;)

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