How rediculous?

music2u4umusic2u4u Posts: 2,822
edited August 2019 in The Commons

Hi all, this is just an observation to comment on nothing more. I have been watching all the warriors being submitted to the Daz store for a long time now. As time goes on, I have watched them get bigger and bigger with more and more bulky clothing. I think this outfit takes the cake though. $25.00 for this outfit. omg!...Now I ask you...how the heck is this guy gonna stand up, fight, much less keep his balance, or see over his shoulder behind himself much less with this gawdy aray of clothing and metal all over him. The weight alone would keep him from standing...lol. I don't think anyone, at any time in history or our future would want to be him or even consider having to dress up in this outfit. How is he gonna pee ot poop for goodness' sake? He can't even scratch an itch! Maybe some of you guys should consider toneing it down a bit to a more realistic approach to this kinda stuff. I would never spend $25.00 on this, but that is just me. Anyone got any suggestions here I am sure all these authors and builders of this stuff would appreciate some opinions on making them better for sales. Whatcha think?

( Thank you Daz for letting me keep my opinion posted)

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  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,823

    Fantasy stuff is exactly that.. I personally love it, and seeing it at the top of what's hot when it was released I'm inclined to think others do too.

     

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,990

    You need to play more video games to increase your tolerance for fantasy armor.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    How rediculous? Awesome!

    There... I fixed that for ya.

    laugh

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    Well...he can't move but he can stand in the fire for days=)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,178

    I had to wishlist it as need to pay for my electricity

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,185
    music2u4u said:

    how the heck is this guy gonna stand up, fight, much less keep his balance

    He's strong!

     

    :D 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,178

    ....................and his ridiculous spellchecker works

  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,229

    If you stay readyculous you don't have to get readyculous!

    Anyway, the above armour may be pure fantasy (read: improbable) but actual medieval knights in their full plate heavy armour also had a lot of trouble getting up, scratching an itch, taking a leak, etc. All they were good for was sitting on a horse and swinging a mace. Presumably.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    in ESO it's a prettt typical armor set, down to the skulls 

    my khajit char is wearing pauldrons of some kind of horned animal.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,183

    Must be made from foamed magnesium to make it light and strong enough. Not your average mediaeval blacksmith's work, I grant you. If it's fantasy, why not assume they have superb metallurgy and an idiotic attitude to weapons & warfare? In fantasy, any stupidities can be accepted if it fits the story - there is no requirement for sense, science or logic; Style rules, as it is beginning to in real life.

    Doesn't mean I'll have any truck with such absurdities myself.

    Regards,

    Richard.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,304

    Before this gets too acrimonious - it's a fantasy. As others have said, you will see a lot of things like this in games and anime and certain schools of illustration. Of course you can also have fantasie in which the armour is more or less inspired by real historical armour, or takes account of the weight of the materials, and that's also legitimate. By all means lobby for the latter, but please do it without attacking the former (or skimparmour) - different people have different tastes, different things that look cool and different things that break the suspension of disbelief.

  • Hylas said:

    All they were good for was sitting on a horse and swinging a mace. Presumably.

    That's what they told me at school toto, but in fact armored knights often fought on foot in medieval times.  It was a legitimate tactical choice in certain situations (Battle of Crecy, e.g.).  And, given how vulnerable horses were to be killed or disabled, a knight who could not move or fight without a horse would be pretty useless.  

    https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/aams/hd_aams.htm

    You're likely right about the itch-scratching and leak-taking, but maybe not particularly foremost in your mind when someone was swinging a pole-axe in your direction. 

    I suspect the more well to do knights had ceremonial armor as well as battle armor, and the former may have been almost as fancy and impractical as this guy's.  

  • SummerhorseSummerhorse Posts: 684

    OP, you asked for opinions so, my opinion is that this is a perfect example of beautifully made and textured fantasy armour. As someone else noted, just have a look at the armours for game art-this isn't even extreme. It's actually a quite classic dragon and orc fighting get up.

  • MazhMazh Posts: 499

    Anything better than female high heel armors.... cheeky

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    Reminds me of the heavy armor sets in skyrim lol.

  • IgnisSerpentusIgnisSerpentus Posts: 2,561

    This armor is awesome.... and I’d personally like to see more like it. I love the skulls

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,823

    ....................and his ridiculous spellchecker works

  • MazhMazh Posts: 499

    I guess he's so occupied with monster slaying/ world saving, that he hasn't got the time to remove the skulls from his pauldron spikes...

  • Romulus71Romulus71 Posts: 144

    I have to agree with you music2u4u. It is unbelievably ridiculous! Went straight into my cart

  • IgnisSerpentusIgnisSerpentus Posts: 2,561

    Never heard of Vlad the impaler?

    The usage of fear inducing imagery was commonplace in strategic warfare. In Rome, it was typically roaring lion heads... but personally I think skulls get the job done better...

    esp when they’re real

  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,229
    Hylas said:

    All they were good for was sitting on a horse and swinging a mace. Presumably.

    That's what they told me at school toto, but in fact armored knights often fought on foot in medieval times.  It was a legitimate tactical choice in certain situations (Battle of Crecy, e.g.).  And, given how vulnerable horses were to be killed or disabled, a knight who could not move or fight without a horse would be pretty useless.  

    Huh, the more you know!

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    I personally like it . Its looks like something out of world of Warcraft surely not as bad as female warrior outfits that have little to no Armour ..LOTS more male content please

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,021
    edited July 2019
    music2u4u said:
    I am sure all these authors and builders of this stuff would appreciate some opinions on making them better for sales. Whatcha think?

    And I'm absolutely certain they wouldn't.

    I'm surprised that any artist would think that feedback of the "I'm going to insult everything you've done, and then insist you guess exactly what I do want and make that instead" variety was anything other than completely and utterly useless. You haven't expressed one positive opinion or given a single actionable piece of advice.

    There are a myriad of different choices for armour on the store. If you don't like this one, buy a different one. The artists aren't at your beck and call, and they will often want to make things for niches that you aren't interested in.

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  • mrposermrposer Posts: 1,134

    He wears this armor  in order to stand in front of and protect a DAZ princess in skimpwear and heels. 

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006
    music2u4u said:

    [...] I would never spend $25.00 on this, but that is just me.[...]

    I think you summed it up pretty well here.

    Also, https://www.daz3d.com/battleworn-armor-for-genesis-8-male came out just a few days before this item, if that's more your speed. It's nice to have more than one option in the store.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    Going to second Matt Castle.

    I used to do QA work. Most of the office were fresh out of college, we weren’t a high ranking anything.

    I commented to a coworker, chatting about training we were all doing about feedback, that there were ways to give feedback more positively, or at least not negatively. While appreciating that this is the hard work someone is pouring themselves into.

    Young coworker ‘So they don’t want us to be honest, jeez.’

    And I shut up, because I wasn’t his boss.

     

    When you say a product sucks or is garbage, you have pretty much burned the bridge on its creator and probably other vendors. It’s not like we’re in expensive suits and gold limos on piles of CGI cash.

    It is possible to give feedback positively, if you actually want a dialog with creators. And one of the key elements of that is recognizing personal taste vs absolute.

     

    Like, I don’t like how often female armors and outfits have heels. Not to my taste, though I recognize I’m somewhat outvoted by the market.

    Politely requesting an option to remove heels is positive.

    Complaining how stupid vendors are with all their slutware garbage outfits that are completely impractical and people don’t want this nonsense, that gets you written off and ignored.

     

    I mean, personally big chunky armor like this isn’t something I’m into. But it’s technically very well done and clearly there’s an appeal to recreating computer game characters as renders.

     

    So... let’s stay positive, if you want people to listen.

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,021
    edited July 2019
    Oso3D said:
    I commented to a coworker, chatting about training we were all doing about feedback, that there were ways to give feedback more positively, or at least not negatively

    What most surprises me is the long list of occasions I've had to explain the basics of critique to artists.

    I would have thought that any reasonably experienced artist had received enough comments in their life to have at least an inkling of what kinds of critique were welcome and useful, and what was an unwelcome and unhelpful tirade.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    It’s world of Warcraft fantasy armor. Never cared for that style but it is a look some people like. If it looks ‘rediculous’ to you can not buy it. There are other armor options.

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,091

    The armour is not my thing, but I thought it looked impressive. But the foot directly over the fire made me wince! I can understand why it's hot. I might wishlist it, but not something I think I'd use, but great for others. He'd have to come into my house sideways I think.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    A dude wearing that armor aint using no door. He's comin in kool-aid man style

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