Why is there still no official Genesis 3 Powerpose template? (solution)

SnowSultan

As small a reason as it might seem, Genesis 8 having an properly working Powerpose template was one of the reasons why I finally decided to make it my primary figure. I loaded a Genesis 3 today and it still uses the default (and incorrect) one - can't we get this fixed at some point for the many people who still use this generation?

I know we can make our own, but it's a giant pain and this is something that should be included with Studio as long as new Genesis 3-compatible content is being made.

 

EDIT: Turns out you can solve this by copying the Genesis 8 templates and overwriting the "genHead", "genTorso" and "genHands" files; it will apply the Genesis 8 template to Genesis 3 and it appears to work exactly as it should (although the Face one probably won't work because 8 has different regions for precise/useless control). I wish we'd known about this, oh, about two years ago, but at least this seems to fix it.

Cybersox

Why can't we get a current manual?  Why isn't the store updated so that all the pre-Iray product now says DAZ Studio 3DL? Why can't they fix that annoying bug whereyour mouse pointer disappears?  Why.. but you get the picture.  There are so many little things that DAZ could do to make the user experience more enjoyable, that people have been complaining about for years.  Maybe it's because caffeine is practically a controlled substance in Utah and no one's awake enough to notice that there are issues...

Odaa

Cybersox said:

Why can't we get a current manual?  Why isn't the store updated so that all the pre-Iray product now says DAZ Studio 3DL? Why can't they fix that annoying bug whereyour mouse pointer disappears?  Why.. but you get the picture.  There are so many little things that DAZ could do to make the user experience more enjoyable, that people have been complaining about for years.  Maybe it's because caffeine is practically a controlled substance in Utah and no one's awake enough to notice that there are issues...

Didn't think they were still based in Utah, company was sold a long time ago.

carrie58

SnowSultan said:

As small a reason as it might seem, Genesis 8 having an properly working Powerpose template was one of the reasons why I finally decided to make it my primary figure. I loaded a Genesis 3 today and it still uses the default (and incorrect) one - can't we get this fixed at some point for the many people who still use this generation?

I know we can make our own, but it's a giant pain and this is something that should be included with Studio as long as new Genesis 3-compatible content is being made.

 

EDIT: Turns out you can solve this by copying the Genesis 8 templates and overwriting the "genHead", "genTorso" and "genHands" files; it will apply the Genesis 8 template to Genesis 3 and it appears to work exactly as it should (although the Face one probably won't work because 8 has different regions for precise/useless control). I wish we'd known about this, oh, about two years ago, but at least this seems to fix it.

I hope you don't mind where would I find the Gen8 templates?and how do I overwrite ? truthfully I would just like to add "Face" template to G3

Nath

carrie58 said:

SnowSultan said:

As small a reason as it might seem, Genesis 8 having an properly working Powerpose template was one of the reasons why I finally decided to make it my primary figure. I loaded a Genesis 3 today and it still uses the default (and incorrect) one - can't we get this fixed at some point for the many people who still use this generation?

I know we can make our own, but it's a giant pain and this is something that should be included with Studio as long as new Genesis 3-compatible content is being made.

 

EDIT: Turns out you can solve this by copying the Genesis 8 templates and overwriting the "genHead", "genTorso" and "genHands" files; it will apply the Genesis 8 template to Genesis 3 and it appears to work exactly as it should (although the Face one probably won't work because 8 has different regions for precise/useless control). I wish we'd known about this, oh, about two years ago, but at least this seems to fix it.

I hope you don't mind where would I find the Gen8 templates?and how do I overwrite ? truthfully I would just like to add "Face" template to G3

.....My Library4PRO\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Tools\PowerPose

But I can't find where to copy it to to get it to work.

SnowSultan

It's probably going to vary depending on where and how you have it installed. My current Powerpose folder for the most recent release is here: C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4 Public Build\plugins\PowerPose.  Take the files named "G8F_Body, G8F_Head, and G8F_Hands" and overwrite the ones that just say "genBody", "genHead" and "genHands" if I remember correctly. I don't think the Face will work though because it's full of adjustments that G3 does not have.

Syrus_Dante

The Genesis 8 templates are saved here for example: Content Library/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Tools/PowerPose

For Genesis 3 you can also save the tempalte here: Content Library/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Tools/PowerPose

I'm currently working on a solution for the Genesis 3 face rig: PowerPose Templates generator script

I figured out a few things about PowerPose the last few days. First right-click on the pane gets you to the Edit Mode but not if you are currently using genesis 8 those files are encrypted so you get an error message.

While starting on creating a face template as an addition to the PDSmiths updated version for Genesis 3 and saving it with the PowerPose pane (you can do that in edit mode) I realized that you can save a "Base" and also "Add-On" templates that you can choose from in the pane.

So you can have multible templates for one figure - what people did until now is I think editing the base template and using only the files in the PowerPose plugin path inside of the Daz Studio application path eg. DAZ 3D/DAZStudio4/plugins/PowerPose. See that I have selected the new Set "Genesis 3 Female with Face Control" in my first screenshot there is still the original Base Set available.

If you think of how the PowerPose plugin update handles the template Sets now, almost like figure morph assets, is an advantage in my oppinion. You have a seperate templates.dsx and a bipedDynamics.dsx file for every figure and gender now.

The "Add-On" template Sets gets saved in "Content Library/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Tools/PowerPose/Sets/[templateSetName]" I did save my edited Genesis 3 template there.

Then I copied it over to "Content Library/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Tools/PowerPose/Sets/[templateSetName]" and it worked. Now I can select another editable template for my genesis 8 figure from the top menu in the PowerPose pane. Also the Template Set name showen in the PowerPose pane gets directly read in from the folder name so you don't get errors if you create and edit those "Add-On" Set folders.

See the second sceenshot where it says New Version. BTW that is how my G3F template looks like. I will use a resolution of 480x720 that is what the G8 uses so you can change the backround png file anytime if you don't like tha face. I wil ltry to match the points location to the original.

My PowerPose Templates generator script will create all code for the control points of all face rig bones that you can then copy into the G3F-Face.dsx or G8F-Face.dsx template file.

Currently with my script the points are all very close so you would need to eigther edit the x/y coordinates manualy in the text file or load this template file in DS and use the Edit Mode with right-click on individual control points to place them properly on the provided backround image. What my script dosn't do is creating Node Group Points where multible bones can be controled with one point. This is something you have to setup manualy in Edit Mode if you like.

RudyTL

I haven't used PowerPose much because I primarily use Genesis 3 and there are no templates.  After seeing this thread I started fiddling around and i think I came up with a way, with only a bit of work, to get the Genesis 8 templates to work with Genesis 3, including the face template.

To start you need to copy the PowerPose directory from '/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Tools' to '/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Tools' (we will deal with Genesis 8 Male Later).

Next, in the '/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Tools/PowerPose' that was just copied, delete the Templates.dxe file as we are going to create a replacement.  Create a text file in the PowerPose directory and copy the following text into it:

<template_suite>
    <title>PowerPose Templates</title>
    <default_set>Generic</default_set>
    <default_label>Body</default_label>
    <tplset>
        <name>Female</name>
        <dynamics_file>bipedDynamics.dsx</dynamics_file>
        <geometry>
            <name>Genesis3Female</name>
        </geometry>
        <template>
            <label>Body</label>
            <file>G8F_Body.dxe</file>
        </template>
        <template>
            <label>Hands</label>
            <file>G8F_Hands.dxe</file>
        </template>
        <template>
            <label>Head</label>
            <file>G8F_Head.dxe</file>
        </template>
        <template>
            <label>Face</label>
            <file>G8F_Face.dxe</file>
        </template>

    </tplset>
</template_suite>

Save the text file and then rename it to Templates.dsx

You should have a working PowerPose template for Genesis 3 Female.

For some reason there was something with the Genesis 8 Male template that wouldn't work with the Genesis 3 Male so I used the newly created Genesis 3 Female template for the Genesis 3 Male.

Copy the PowerPose directory from '/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Tools' to '/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Male/Tools'

In the /data/Genesis 3/Male/Tools/PoserPose folder edit the Templates.dsx file in a text editor and change the following:

<name>Female</name> to <name>Male</name>

<name>Genesis3Female</name> to <name>Genesis3Male</name>

Save and you should have a template for Genesis 3 Male.  If you want, you can copy the PNG image files from the Genesis 8 Male PowerPose Directory and replace the female imagery.

This procedure seemed to work well for me but I haven't used PowerPose enough to know whether it is working correctly and accuratly.  If you give it a try, let me know how it works out.

 

 

 

 

Tim N

Rudy, thanks so much for those instructions. Worked like a charm.