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Layer Shader for DAZ Studio

RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
edited December 1969 in Daz Studio Discussion

is this different from LIE and does it work with 4.6 ?

any experience someone pls

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  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 1969

    If you mean this http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/layer-shader-for-daz-studio
    Yes, it's different from LIE, and yes it works with 4.6.

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  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    thx Vaskania
    you know if i can make my own presets for it in photoshop ?

  • Swawa3DSwawa3D Posts: 231
    edited December 1969

    I don't have this product yet but from looking at the screen shot... I would think the entire point is that it saves you a lot of time by not having to do as much photoshop work. You can just plug in existing textures for base, top & whole and use a mask to blend them. I think this would be limited for me since I often use advanced shaders and to my knowledge this does not blend shaders. I think I could accomplish most of what it does by composting images in an editor &/or using LIE. It would save time in some cases, would be more flexible with tiling, etc. and it's not expensive so I might get it. Since I don't own the product yet, please correct me if I'm wrong on any of my assumptions.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    I wonder how this product differs from Uber Surface 2 which has double layer function and yes you can make you own maps and transmaps in Photoshop for Uber Surface 2 so I would presume you could for this product.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited October 2013

    Szark said:
    I wonder how this product differs from Uber Surface 2

    I can think of about $17.96 worth of differences. lol ;)

    Swawa is correct. The base texture is the underlying texture (in my render- the wall), the top texture in this case would be the ivy, and the mask is the transmap for the top texture- white where the top texture is visible, and black where it's not.

    This image was done by applying one of the ivy shaders to a few west park walls, and then replacing west park's original wall textures in the base texture area.

    You can also get some interesting results by plugging in displacement maps as a transmap, or using transmaps for textures you're not using.

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    yeah good point Vask. :P I would still like to know though.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited October 2013

    From the US2LS description, this one is a lot more basic. It's purely just overlaying textures with the ability to adjust tiling. There are no blend modes, no SSS, no gamma/contrast/etc. As you can tell in my screen above, there are no extra functions that you would not find in a basic Daz Default shaded surface.

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Vask yeah I went and looked and came to the same conclusion. I suppose this is good for simple overlays. I will stick to US2.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited October 2013

    What's the render time on the US2 one? I don't have it, so I'm honestly curious.

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    pretty much the same as Uber Surface that ships with Daz Studio now. I like US2 as it has better SSS functions than US1.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited October 2013

    Hm. Does US2 allow you to ctrl-click over existing textures and keep them as the base layer? This one doesn't. Jen said she tried to allow it to use our own maps, but daz kept crashing.

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    It works with Ctrl-Click but from memory is resets to values to default. But if you have a surface that has Uber Surface applied then US2 comes with a US1 to US2 upgrade preset which works a treat. You could do a double load, first use this Ubersurface-1-upgrade-preset and then use the US1 - US2 preset which should keep all the paramters and maps in place.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 1969

    Thanks. I'll keep that in mind for the next time it's on sale.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    My pleasure Vask.

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