OT - Not digging "Titans"

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  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745
    RKane_1 said:

    a dullard of a Superman wih poor moral character

    LOL! I liked a lot of MAN OF STEEL. It seems lot of folks hate the ending because Superman kills Zod, but I feel he was very effectively pushed into a corner and had to kill Zod to save many other innocent lives. The nagging thing that dishonors the characters is that Superman is supposed to be who he is because of his parents. Supposedly he was raised to be a hero and a good man because he had the good fortune to end up in the Kents' home. That's been true in every version of the character I'm aware of (excluding Elseworlds). But in the DCEU, the only moral value the Kents had to offer was cowardice. Jonathan tells Clark he must hide and never try to help; Martha tells him not to help because he doesn't owe humans anything. Awful.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039
    Inkubo said:
    RKane_1 said:

    a dullard of a Superman wih poor moral character

    LOL! I liked a lot of MAN OF STEEL. It seems lot of folks hate the ending because Superman kills Zod, but I feel he was very effectively pushed into a corner and had to kill Zod to save many other innocent lives. The nagging thing that dishonors the characters is that Superman is supposed to be who he is because of his parents. Supposedly he was raised to be a hero and a good man because he had the good fortune to end up in the Kents' home. That's been true in every version of the character I'm aware of (excluding Elseworlds). But in the DCEU, the only moral value the Kents had to offer was cowardice. Jonathan tells Clark he must hide and never try to help; Martha tells him not to help because he doesn't owe humans anything. Awful.

    I was a fan of the movie right up until I saw it. :) The visuals were great but the story was poorly written with no affection for the character or the Kents. Deplorable. 

    And the fact he killed Zod was not a problem for me so much as the pacing of it. Zod should have been a Man of Steel 3 - Revenge of Zod film AFTER 2 films of establishing the quality of his character so that the contrast of what he was pushed to stands out. He killed Zod in the books and it affected him very badly forcing him to have a psychotic break even. 

    I needed Lex Luthor or brainiac as my villain. I need Bryan Cranston or Mark Strong or even Idris Elba as my Lex Luthor, not the crappy choice they made. 

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    We can only dream.... but could we NOT have WB have any part of it? okthanksgoodbye! :)

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,612
    Inkubo said:
    RKane_1 said:

    a dullard of a Superman wih poor moral character

    LOL! I liked a lot of MAN OF STEEL. It seems lot of folks hate the ending because Superman kills Zod, but I feel he was very effectively pushed into a corner and had to kill Zod to save many other innocent lives. The nagging thing that dishonors the characters is that Superman is supposed to be who he is because of his parents. Supposedly he was raised to be a hero and a good man because he had the good fortune to end up in the Kents' home. That's been true in every version of the character I'm aware of (excluding Elseworlds). But in the DCEU, the only moral value the Kents had to offer was cowardice. Jonathan tells Clark he must hide and never try to help; Martha tells him not to help because he doesn't owe humans anything. Awful.

    Totally agree about the Kents.

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  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,560
    edited October 2018

    maybe farfetched for them to consider think of this concept but what if they had Robin wasn't the real Robin, that the current one is an imposter a clone or something  and the real Robin turns up or somehow Slade/Deathstroke or another villain someho brainwashed Robin and after Robin regains his true self he becomes Nightwing to try and redeem himself 

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    maybe farfetched for them to consider think of this concept but what if they had Robin wasn't the real Robin, that the current one is an imposter a clone or something  and the real Robin turns up or somehow Slade/Deathstroke or another villain someho brainwashed Robin and after Robin regains his true self he becomes Nightwing to try and redeem himself 

    That would be odd. My hopes are that perhaps he "Darkness rising" in Raven and her connection to Robin, Starfire, Changeling, etc may be affecting them and they will return to heir brighter selves once the "Trigon issue" has passed.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited October 2018

    I love the fact they swear; I hate perfect heroes. The flaws given them can be a little annoying when there are too many, but it certainly makes for a more fun and rounded character.

    ... And besides, swear words are just that: words. Words of any nature can and frequently are used to hurt - they are far more often hurtful when they aren't so called bad words - they seem to cause more hurt.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,017

    ...Spock: Your use of language has altered since our arrival. It is currently laced with, shall we say, more colorful metaphors, "double dumb-ass on you" and so forth.

    Kirk: You mean the profanity?

    Spock: Yes.

    Kirk: That's simply the way they talk here. Nobody pays attention to you unless you swear every other word. You'll find it in all the literature of the period.

    Spock: For example?

    Kirk: Oh the collected works of Jacqueline Susann. The novels of Harold Robbins...

    Spock: Ah, the "Giants".

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039
    nicstt said:

    I love the fact they swear; I hate perfect heroes. The flaws given them can be a little annoying when there are too many, but it certainly makes for a more fun and rounded character.

    ... And besides, swear words are just that: words. Words of any nature can and frequently are used to hurt - they are far more often hurtful when they aren't so called bad words - they seem to cause more hurt.

    The profanity wouldn't bother me so much if it weren't for the additional violence and Dick isn't the kind to throw F-Bombs around. Jason, maybe, but again, they are blending characters. Doing justice to niether.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,365
    RawArt said:

    Ya kinda get that they want the heros to "grow" into who they will become......but they set the tone way to dark. They don't need to be thugs.....just maybe teens who are lost and confused as to what their role in life is(as teens tend to be) ...till they find each other and learn to bring out the best in each other.

     

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039
    RAMWolff said:
    RawArt said:

    Ya kinda get that they want the heros to "grow" into who they will become......but they set the tone way to dark. They don't need to be thugs.....just maybe teens who are lost and confused as to what their role in life is(as teens tend to be) ...till they find each other and learn to bring out the best in each other.

     

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    And they usually err on the side of either too often. Powerless sucked. Titans and Justice League sucked. Why for the love of GOD can't they find a happy medium?

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,365

    Don't know but they really should take some hints from Marvel and how they do their thing with their character driven shows.  

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039
    RAMWolff said:

    Don't know but they really should take some hints from Marvel and how they do their thing with their character driven shows.  

    I wholeheartedly agree. It starts with Kevin Feige making sure to pull talent that actually LIKES the characters rather than just fishing for a driector with a name. Fiege makde sure the Russo brothers, who were only really knwon for directing some small time cinema and episodes of Community before LOVED the characters before giving them the Civil War movie.

    They could even just learn from their own animtion dpeartment as the movies, while varying in qualit7y, are usually good and representative of the characters they portray. Justice League Doom  and Justice League War are perfect examples

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  • ChadCryptoChadCrypto Posts: 596
    edited October 2018

    I guess I'm lucky to not have read or watched anything Titans before this series. So I have no preconcieved baggage. I know of the characters from here and there, from playing DC Games on my phone and computer. So going into it pretty much cold storywise. I thought it was excuted quite well. So seeing these first 3 episodes of Titans, I can see the potential of this being good take on the story. I don't mind dark stories. One reason I don't gravitate to the animated stuff, too goofy for me, it seems for younger audiences. Maybe I'm just getting old in my 46 years. 

    Overall, I trust Geoff Johns and Greg Berlanti.

     

     

     

     

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  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    I guess I'm lucky to not have read or watched anything Titans before this series. So I have no preconcieved baggage. I know of the characters from here and there, from playing DC Games on my phone and computer. So going into it pretty much cold storywise. I thought it was excuted quite well. So seeing these first 3 episodes of Titans, I can see the potential of this being good take on the story. I don't mind dark stories. One reason I don't gravitate to the animated stuff, too goofy for me, it seems for younger audiences. Maybe I'm just getting old in my 46 years. 

    Overall, I trust Geoff Johns and Greg Berlanti.

    Well, I am 50 and the animated stories work for me just fine. The stories are actually pretty mature dealing with death, heroic sacrifice, determination and other heroic qualities. You should check them out. Also you do yourself a disservice for not having read the original Wolfman/Perez reboot: Beautiful writing, excellent stories, amazing artwork, etc. 

    I generally trust Berlanti and Johns but no one is perfect. THIS, however, is a mistep on their part.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039
    nicstt said:
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

    As rumor has it, Iron Fist was entrusted to a person who has a reputation for getting productions done "on budget" when a studio has promised something but is having problems with making the money work. Please note, it was not entrusted to someone who can "do a good job" with the character, just someone who can bring in a production under the numbers. 

    Iron Fist was not Marvels only dud or do i have to force you to relive the horror of "The Inhumans"? Marvel has really done well and I love almost ALL of what they put out but iron Fist and Inhumans were......well.... Nuff Said.

  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745
    RKane_1 said:

    Iron Fist was not Marvels only dud or do i have to force you to relive the horror of "The Inhumans"? Marvel has really done well and I love almost ALL of what they put out but iron Fist and Inhumans were......well.... Nuff Said.

    I stand corrected! I completely forgot about The Inhumans because I never watched it. Before it debuted, I heard they were going to solve the problem of being unable to do justice to Medusa's hair by simply cutting it off. Why bother to make the show if you have to disable a beloved, bad-ass character?

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,365
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    Oh, plum forgot about C&D.  Yup, LOVED that series too and heard it got another season!  Totally great work there!  

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,365
    nicstt said:
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

    JJ was done very well.  The story lines are always wrapped up pretty well so really no loose ends.  Second series was very very dark though but I liked it.  Sad ending.  Very sad!  

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,365
    RKane_1 said:
    nicstt said:
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

    As rumor has it, Iron Fist was entrusted to a person who has a reputation for getting productions done "on budget" when a studio has promised something but is having problems with making the money work. Please note, it was not entrusted to someone who can "do a good job" with the character, just someone who can bring in a production under the numbers. 

    Iron Fist was not Marvels only dud or do i have to force you to relive the horror of "The Inhumans"? Marvel has really done well and I love almost ALL of what they put out but iron Fist and Inhumans were......well.... Nuff Said.

    I read that PowerMan got the axe too for what ever reason.  That's really sad.  He's a good character and the supporting cast was great.  

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,090

    It's weird, though... I loved Danny Rand any time he was hanging with Luke Cage. Loathed him everywhere else.

     

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776
    RawArt said:

    Ya kinda get that they want the heros to "grow" into who they will become......but they set the tone way to dark. They don't need to be thugs.....just maybe teens who are lost and confused as to what their role in life is(as teens tend to be) ...till they find each other and learn to bring out the best in each other.

    It's good in stories to (1) have an arc for the character and (2) have them deal with conflict either internally or externally or both.  To have an arc, they don't need to start with " I don't care who I hurt" level of bad. They could, for example, have him start of disillusioned about a failure, an inability to save someone or perhaps even an action that inadvertently made things worse that has him questioning why he even bothers.  Hey, he's in ready to quit because he feels he might be part of the problem - conflict! Then, over time and thanks to some of the new people he meets and mentors (reluctantly, initially) he rediscovers how much he cares about others, about justice, about making a difference.  There ya go, arc achieved without making him a psycho.

    But that's not grimdark enough, grimdark is what sells. Or so they insist.

    As a  Warhammer 40,000 player, I have had enough "grimdark" to last 40,000 years.

  • RKane_1 said:
    nicstt said:
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

    As rumor has it, Iron Fist was entrusted to a person who has a reputation for getting productions done "on budget" when a studio has promised something but is having problems with making the money work. Please note, it was not entrusted to someone who can "do a good job" with the character, just someone who can bring in a production under the numbers. 

    Iron Fist was not Marvels only dud or do i have to force you to relive the horror of "The Inhumans"? Marvel has really done well and I love almost ALL of what they put out but iron Fist and Inhumans were......well.... Nuff Said.

    So many shows to consider, we're quite saturated at the moment. Naturally I am watching almost everything. I have opinions on almost all of them.

    Daredevil- Amazing. Clearly a flagship production. Excellent casting of the main lead, excellent bar raising fight scenes. Hard to ask for more. Havent seen the most recent season, but I feel confident the momentum is still there.

    Punisher- Havent watched it yet. Cant say but I am certain I will love it. Loved him as a villan on Daredevil so I know I'll love him as a hero

    Jessical Jones - Quite good. Although I still feel like I have no real idea what her abilities are. Also havent seen the newest season but I feel like she's very fun to watch. I am not surprised to see it only garner two seasons, I just don't know if this character is written in a way that leaves room for a many solo adventures. Putting her into a group the way they did with the Defenders, and letting their themes and big bads overlap to serve the plots of more than one hero seems to work for me. This is the case for all three, Cage, Fist and Jones

    Luke Cage- Excellent. Didnt love the fight scenes at first, Luke seems strong as heck but rather slow moving. I love the cultural affects and embrasure of Harlem. Mahershala Ali was brilliant as Cottonmouth. Have not seen his new season either, but I've heard it is on par with the first season. Also not surprised to see this cancelled. Again, just how many times can these street leve heros be tasked with saving the world while drwaing no attention to themselves or causing more powerful individuals to intervene?

    Iron Fist - Sooo, well...um... I think there are a lot of issues here. Fight scenes were not amazing, at least not those that our main hero was involved in. His utter cluelessness made it impossible for me to respect him, or even route for him , since his plans if he has any are more likely to fail than to succedd, causing more pain that offering of solutions. Even if he isnt the best Iron Fist in history, he should still be several cuts above the performance level of anyone else in the series. I've written in other places about how this show really got it wrong in terms of what would make people want to watch it. Liked him better in The Defenders. Not at all surpised to learn that the show has been cancelled.

    Inhumans - If it had been launched as a mere TV show, and not some sort of feature film type event then it would have been better received. Type-casting the psycho from Game of Thrones as the antagonist for this series was predictable. I'm sorry but compared to the things he did as Ramsey on thrones even his most scary wide eyed faces made as a here human on Inhumans seemed comical. Tjhis actor could have been cast in a very different role and would have been excellent still. They went with the easy choice, an actor who they knew could produce the villanous goods, but unfortunately we've already seen too much of this type of work from this very capable and facially recognizable young actor. All I could think was "House Ramsey." Medusa's super hair could have worked if they'd actually allowed it to affect the plot beyond mere sentimentality. The girl with the giant digital pug and the black stripe across the back of her otherwise blonde hair...what were they thinking? I mean seriously does her hair grow blonde at the root and then suddenly turn black once it reaches 9 inches and then turns blonde again at 10 inches giving us exactly 1 inch of a dark band strewtching across the back of her head? What kind of mutation would do that? We've seen what hair mutations can look like with Medusa....Not very well thought out. Anyhow, I did watch all of it because I'm a sucker for all things super hero. makes me sad it didnt get to develop at least a little further. Black Bolt by now should have learned some form of a signed language by now, I found it somewhat insulting the way he was essentially disabled without Medusa around to translate for him.

    Black Lightning - Like Luke Cage, this series tackles some of the unique issues that minorities face in society and how that becomes even more complicated when minorities are viewed as heros instead of as villains. Love the family aspect of the show, and the focus on positive things. So far the show is very good.

    The Gifted - Love it. The family dynamic again is the strongest part of the show, as well as some cool characters. Lorna makes no sense to me, and the triplets are just well, strange. The actress seems capable enough as a peformer to have been successful at pulling off slightly unique personalities for all three, but instead they are all shadows of the same person so it's kinda boring in that sense.

    Cloak And Dagger - Really fun series. Again like Luke Cage and Black Lightning, there is a lot of fun and commentary to be had in the discussion of race and power and of humanity and working together. Love it.

    Runaways- I too was unsure who was actually running away. I realized that there were two sets of runaways, our young heros, and also our young victims, who where runaways from the beginning. Looking forward to where this one will go. So far so good.

    Titans - Watched the first few episodes...Yes indeed there is a seriousness about it. I'm intrigued to see where its going since we still havent met everyone. This is not a show for kids, this is clearly meant to bring in a few older viewers. So far so good for me, but I never watched the teen titans.

    Powers - This one is gone off the air now, it was produced by playstation if I'm not mistaken. Some quite good performances from several of the cast memebers. 
    Rather quite terrible in story and plot lines and in the world they created, however I did watch eevery single eopisode of both seasons and would have continued watching. The story had great potential nd was moving in a really interesting direction by the end of the second season. I mention this because not everything is Marvel and DC, we need new hero origins from time to time and this was one of them. Very cool in its way!

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    RKane_1 said:
    nicstt said:
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

    As rumor has it, Iron Fist was entrusted to a person who has a reputation for getting productions done "on budget" when a studio has promised something but is having problems with making the money work. Please note, it was not entrusted to someone who can "do a good job" with the character, just someone who can bring in a production under the numbers. 

    Iron Fist was not Marvels only dud or do i have to force you to relive the horror of "The Inhumans"? Marvel has really done well and I love almost ALL of what they put out but iron Fist and Inhumans were......well.... Nuff Said.

    Wonder how that turned out for them? :)

    Although my issue was the main character.

  • nicstt said:
    RKane_1 said:
    nicstt said:
    Inkubo said:
    RAMWolff said:

    They did this with the Runaways from Marvel on Hulu.  Really like that program.  Fun but the kids are figuring out their powers, their lives and dealing with their crimminal parents without killing or maiming other people along the way.  Very glad I don't have a pass to watch this DC disaster.  So sad.  I was such a fan boy of the Titans, esp the Wolfman / Perez era.  Oh well! DC really does have a problem with either too little or too much!  

    Runaways is great. I found it kinda funny it took the whole first season fo get them to actually run away, but the story was good and made sense. Cloak & Dagger is also terrific. Tandy starts out in a very dark place, but the hardships she faces in the series bring out the best in her, now that she has Tyrone as a guide and example. Really, Marvel's only dud has been Iron Fist.

    But it was worse than just about anything I've seen - ever. Can't believe they cancelled Jessica Jones, makes me glad I've only watched a couple of the episodes so far. Wont bother with the rest. Incomplete stories are just annoying. They feel like a rip-off.

    Agree on Cloak and Dagger, it was very well done; interesting to see the character develop.

     

    As rumor has it, Iron Fist was entrusted to a person who has a reputation for getting productions done "on budget" when a studio has promised something but is having problems with making the money work. Please note, it was not entrusted to someone who can "do a good job" with the character, just someone who can bring in a production under the numbers. 

    Iron Fist was not Marvels only dud or do i have to force you to relive the horror of "The Inhumans"? Marvel has really done well and I love almost ALL of what they put out but iron Fist and Inhumans were......well.... Nuff Said.

    Wonder how that turned out for them? :)

    Although my issue was the main character.

    Yes, sadly clueless. The Hulk makes more rational and carefully considered decisions than Danny Rand seems to

  • ChadCryptoChadCrypto Posts: 596
    edited November 2018
    RKane_1 said:

    I guess I'm lucky to not have read or watched anything Titans before this series. So I have no preconcieved baggage. I know of the characters from here and there, from playing DC Games on my phone and computer. So going into it pretty much cold storywise. I thought it was excuted quite well. So seeing these first 3 episodes of Titans, I can see the potential of this being good take on the story. I don't mind dark stories. One reason I don't gravitate to the animated stuff, too goofy for me, it seems for younger audiences. Maybe I'm just getting old in my 46 years. 

    Overall, I trust Geoff Johns and Greg Berlanti.

    Well, I am 50 and the animated stories work for me just fine. The stories are actually pretty mature dealing with death, heroic sacrifice, determination and other heroic qualities. You should check them out. Also you do yourself a disservice for not having read the original Wolfman/Perez reboot: Beautiful writing, excellent stories, amazing artwork, etc. 

    I generally trust Berlanti and Johns but no one is perfect. THIS, however, is a mistep on their part.

    I think I didn't make it clear , my bad. I meant the Teen Titans Go. Thats what looks goofy to me. Just not a fan of the art of that series. Now the other Titans Animated looks ok. I will check that series out.

    The 4th episode was pretty good. Doom Patrol. Looks like they are bringing in a little more lighter moments to shine on the darkness.

     

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