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  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited August 2013

    Slosh said:
    Just as a general question for everyone, if I were to make video tutorials for some topic, how do you feel about audio? Personally, I prefer a tutorial with audio commentary, not a blast of music that is not my taste, accompanied by captions that I don't want to read. However, I know some people might prefer captions so they can pause the video and read what to do. I think that using both captions and audio might be a bit much, but I would like to hear what the majority prefers.

    I prefer Voice [nice and loud, I can turn sound down but up isn't possible if it's not there] and "no music, no radio, no 'surprize loud volume noises" ... thank you :-)

    If not doing Voice then whether or not there is some pleasant to work with background music on is your call.

    Unless there's some very good reason for a "caption", I think those are best off in .pdf tutorials and the like. Some video hosts have a unique way of converting files and text can go wonky.

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  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Slosh said:
    Just as a general question for everyone, if I were to make video tutorials for some topic, how do you feel about audio? Personally, I prefer a tutorial with audio commentary, not a blast of music that is not my taste, accompanied by captions that I don't want to read. However, I know some people might prefer captions so they can pause the video and read what to do. I think that using both captions and audio might be a bit much, but I would like to hear what the majority prefers.
    Umm.. well. Piddle, as a person not able to follow any vid tutorial without watching them a zillion times, I ask for captions so I can at least read it. I prefer PDF or anything I can print. I'm getting left behind by many because I just can not function fast enough to keep up with video tutorials now.
  • SkirikiSkiriki Posts: 4,976
    edited December 1969

    The problems with video tutorials (as in, video tutorials ONLY) are plenty:

    1) They do not move at a pace I'd like them to move. Some things I've grasped immediately, and some I have not -- reading allows me to move on faster, or review what was written, again and again.
    2) I've lost some hearing in my right ear. And English is not my native language -- I may be tripped off by accent or volume or sound quality, but at least in writing I can make an educated guess about what is meant, even if it is slightly typoed. And copy-pasting to Google Translate is an option for non-English documents, as a final ditch effort.
    3) I cannot search a video for a keyword I remember, and which is either the thing I'm looking for, or what I'm looking for is nearby that keyword.

    And so on and so on and so on.

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    edited December 1969

    Skiriki said:
    The problems with video tutorials (as in, video tutorials ONLY) are plenty:

    1) They do not move at a pace I'd like them to move. Some things I've grasped immediately, and some I have not -- reading allows me to move on faster, or review what was written, again and again.
    2) I've lost some hearing in my right ear. And English is not my native language -- I may be tripped off by accent or volume or sound quality, but at least in writing I can make an educated guess about what is meant, even if it is slightly typoed. And copy-pasting to Google Translate is an option for non-English documents, as a final ditch effort.
    3) I cannot search a video for a keyword I remember, and which is either the thing I'm looking for, or what I'm looking for is nearby that keyword.

    And so on and so on and so on.

    I have to agree with Skiriki. English (Pittsburghese, actually) is my native language, but videos aren't nearly as searchable as pdfs. I can manage with videos, but some form of readable document is much easier for me.

  • BlackFeather1973BlackFeather1973 Posts: 739
    edited August 2013

    Slosh said:
    Just as a general question for everyone, if I were to make video tutorials for some topic, how do you feel about audio? Personally, I prefer a tutorial with audio commentary, not a blast of music that is not my taste, accompanied by captions that I don't want to read. However, I know some people might prefer captions so they can pause the video and read what to do. I think that using both captions and audio might be a bit much, but I would like to hear what the majority prefers.

    I prefer voice, it's like an attention hook for me, my mind always wanders off watching tutorials without voice.
    However, when not done properly, voiced tuts can be very irritating, e.g. mumbling, speaking too fast, or the worst thing ever : a sniffing nose every few seconds througout the entire vid (i run away screaming and never watch a vid from that author again).

    To me voiced vs caption is similar to the red wine vs white wine issue, both the best and worst i ever had were red.

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  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,857
    edited December 1969

    I have to agree with Jade, Skiri and Riftwitch. I much prefer pdf instead of vid tutorials, I more often than not can not follow the video tutorials, and I can't have them going while still working in Studio for example. And on top of that, english isn't my native language either so that makes it harder when following a video tutorial, specially if the one talking has a heavy accent.

    I more often than not, completely skip video tutorials because of this. Which is sad since a lot of questions get replied with a link to a video tutorial (not all of course, but quite a few questions about.. "how do I..." etc ) The times there is a pdf file or something like that, I rejoice and often save on my computer to have when I need it :)

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited August 2013

    I'm the exact opposite. Words can mean anything and some pdf's are either too termy (I actually don't work well with 3D/tech lingo) and not enough visual. I can pause and reclick a specific time of a video if I need something repeated 500 times before I begin to get it. This is why I like Dreamlight's tutorials. They're visual and right to the point.

    By the way, Shiriki, what kind of drinks are those? :)

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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,348
    edited December 1969

    Personally I prefer written tutorials most of the time (text with screenshots or appropriate illustrations. If it's a video, I usually prefer captions--that way I can watch it without bothering others who may be in the room. A video tutorial that moves too quickly, or that is hard to understand, is next to useless...it can be so frustrating to pause every few seconds that it becomes difficult to concentrate on what's being taught. And like Carola O said, even if it's not too fast, it can be hard to switch back and forth between the tutorial and the software you're trying to learn.

    However, there are definitely exceptions: there are some processes that are just easier to learn through watching than by reading. And for these sorts of things, I'd rather have video--and ideally no captions so I can concentrate on what's on screen. For the audio, just make sure you talk at an average pace (or slightly slower than average--I'm a rather fast talker, so when I'm teaching I have to consciously slow down quite a bit) with a clear voice. And the tutorial should move at a slow pace, too. Probably most of your audience will be newbies, non-native speakers, hearing-impaired, etc.

    Slosh, do you want this conversation split into its own topic? I don't mind it staying here if the tutorial(s) you are planning are focused on issues primarily of interest to Genesis users...but if you make it its own topic (maybe with a link in this thread) you could get a larger number of responses.

  • SkirikiSkiriki Posts: 4,976
    edited December 1969

    By the way, Shiriki, what kind of drinks are those? :)

    My drinks are always of the sort you wanted to have!

    Just like Genesis. ;)

  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391
    edited December 1969

    That won't be necessary, Scott. Unless you think it will take over. I don't plan to reply beyond this post, I just noticed you mentioned content creators and tutorials, so I thought I would ask. I think my final answer will be to provide written tutorials, preferably pdf, in which I may link to short videos on areas of interest for those who prefer to see a visual demonstration.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Slosh said:
    Just as a general question for everyone, if I were to make video tutorials for some topic, how do you feel about audio? Personally, I prefer a tutorial with audio commentary, not a blast of music that is not my taste, accompanied by captions that I don't want to read. However, I know some people might prefer captions so they can pause the video and read what to do. I think that using both captions and audio might be a bit much, but I would like to hear what the majority prefers.

    I love audio commentary. If there isn't any, I don't learn nearly as well and then I have to play the "guessing game" because the video tutorial isn't always "clear enough" to see any text on the screen.

  • StorypilotStorypilot Posts: 1,683
    edited December 1969

    A new render with my Clancy and Sabra characters from the genesis character contest.

    Clancy just got some new duds, and Sabra thinks he looks kind of sharp. Surprisingly.

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  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    That's awesome Storypilot. :)

  • StorypilotStorypilot Posts: 1,683
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Knight22179 :)

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Your welcome. ;)

  • ServantServant Posts: 765
    edited December 1969

    Here's a promo image I did about a year ago for my digital comic Servant, available through Amazon and Drivethrucomics. I use mostly Genesis for my main characters. Being able to shift gears easily from creating male and female human and non-human characters and with lower polys than the Gen4 figs really appealed to me, especially when you can mix morphs that are usually prohibited to genders.

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  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Very nice. :)

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,461
    edited December 1969

    This conqueror is mostly a mix of M5 & F5, then tweaked some more...

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  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Could not have done this without a modeler in the past. This is 100% Genesis and morph sets.

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  • ServantServant Posts: 765
    edited August 2013

    Very nice. :)

    Thanks, Knight! :D

    Here's another sample, this one's a page from the second issue. It's been edited, of course, but all 3 figures are Genesis using only the evolution morphs (with a little M4/V4) and default skin textures (Jeremy and Lara) with some tweaks to the shading dials. Now, that's versatile! ;-)

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  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Great job, Jabba and Jaderail! :)

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    BorgyB said:
    Very nice. :)

    Thanks, Knight! :D

    Here's another sample, this one's a page from the second issue. It's been edited, of course, but all 3 figures are Genesis using only the evolution morphs (with a little M4/V4) and default skin textures (Jeremy and Lara) with some tweaks to the shading dials. Now, that's versatile! ;-)

    Your welcome. ;)

    And another great piece. Your right, that is versatile. :)

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,461
    edited December 1969

    Great job, Jabba and Jaderail! :)
    cheers... oh, I forgot to mention that the tabard is actually a female skirt with one of the supersuit chainmail shaders applied to it, as there was nothing in the male outfits that suited what I was looking for.
  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,996
    edited December 1969

    While I am an avid A3 user, I do consider Genesis my secondary figure and it is to me what Gen4 should have been.

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  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    While I am an avid A3 user, I do consider Genesis my secondary figure and it is to me what Gen4 should have been.

    Awesome job Matt! :)

  • ServantServant Posts: 765
    edited December 1969

    Jabba101 said:
    Great job, Jabba and Jaderail! :)
    cheers... oh, I forgot to mention that the tabard is actually a female skirt with one of the supersuit chainmail shaders applied to it, as there was nothing in the male outfits that suited what I was looking for.

    I do that sometimes, too. A lot of the tabbards for Male figures don't look right. Thankfully, since Genesis accepts V4 and other female clones, gender-locked clothes and accessories are easy to autofit (which is also true for male clothes used on females, although a little more tweaking is needed... but this is especially true for non-skimpwear armor). :)

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    edited December 1969

    I really like how Genesis can be nearly anything I want, no matter what gender, age, or (often) species.

    Here's a quick render of five Genesis figures, morphed into a young teen girl, a hulking monster, a superheroine, a toon animal, and an alien from R...er, France. He is from France.

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  • GreycatGreycat Posts: 334
    edited December 1969

    This is Genesis, a combination of 50% Vicky 5 and 50% David 5. This why I like Genesis, I like it because of its versatility. I don’t think Genesis2 will be able to combine female and male morphs because of the way Genesis2 is being structured. In fact, I think Genesis will be the only one of its kind.

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  • GreycatGreycat Posts: 334
    edited December 1969

    Here's some other 50/50s I created.

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  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    edited December 1969

    I like those combos. Sometimes I don't even bother trying to create a complete scene, I just like messing around with the morphs and seeing what I come up with.

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