New Cat?

kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918

..so we now have Dog 8, (unsfortunately for Iray so LAMH and Garibaldi won't work for fur without making ht heavy in polys).

So when can we expect a Cat 8? And will it actually bend like a real cat?

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  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    I'm hoping for a new cat too.  And yes, it needs at least half again as many segments for the spine/back as the G8 human models.  I have the hivewire cat, but I can always use more (same principle as with horses for me.)

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548

    I should try dforcing millenium cat....

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I’m not really into lamh so I’m okay it not being there. It’s always looked a bit funny to me.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918
    edited June 2018
    Odaa said:

    I should try dforcing millenium cat....

    ...just make sure it doesn't explode when you do.  Had that happen once a while back before dForce.  Had calico all over the viewport.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918
    edited June 2018

    I’m not really into lamh so I’m okay it not being there. It’s always looked a bit funny to me.

    ...as I recall, Alessandro said something a while back about making a cat.  That would allow for the use of LAMH and most likely the Catalyzer (hmm, appropriately named in this case).

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,594
    edited June 2018
    kyoto kid said:

    I’m not really into lamh so I’m okay it not being there. It’s always looked a bit funny to me.

    ...as I recall, Alessandro said something a while back about making a cat.  That would allow for the use of LAMH and most likely the Catalyzer (hmm, appropriately named in this case).

    He did, it was September 2016, so a while back, and one of the DAZ guys confirmed it. He also said he was working on a dog. We can only guess that he either gave up, or sold what he had done to DAZ.

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  • ArielRGHArielRGH Posts: 105

    Right now I DEMAND a cat and a new horse! LOL

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918
    edited June 2018
    Havos said:
    kyoto kid said:

    I’m not really into lamh so I’m okay it not being there. It’s always looked a bit funny to me.

    ...as I recall, Alessandro said something a while back about making a cat.  That would allow for the use of LAMH and most likely the Catalyzer (hmm, appropriately named in this case).

    He did, it was September 2016, so a while back, and one of the DAZ guys confirmed it. He also said he was working on a dog. We can only guess that he either gave up, or sold what he had done to DAZ.

    ...I hope not as his critters look more real (and are LAMH compatible). Dog 8 still looks a little "toony" in some respects. I also really cannot see a setter, husky, or retriever looking right without real hair.
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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,757

    Hmmm, I don't think they look toony as much as they look thin compared to a lot of people's fat pet dogs.laugh 

  • Panzer EmeraldPanzer Emerald Posts: 727
    edited June 2018

    I would love to see a Cat 8! But then again, I love every animal, so I might be biased, hehe. I know there's the HW Cat, but IMHO, the more the merrier. 

    Who knows, maybe Cat 8 will come out later this month in cheeky reference to the complimentary DO characters. XP

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  • ChezjuanChezjuan Posts: 541

    I hope a cat come soon too! That was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw Dog 8... 

    I'm wavering on getting the dog, but a cat would be an instabuy.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918
    Shoxremi said:

    I would love to see a Cat 8! But then again, I love every animal, so I might be biased, hehe. I know there's the HW Cat, but IMHO, the more the merrier. 

    Who knows, maybe Cat 8 will come out later this month in cheeky reference to the complimentary DO characters. XP

    ..would love a "smushface" for Dog 8.

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606

    If Facebook has taught me anything, it's that you can never have too many cats :p

    I've got Hivewire's House Cat, but I'd still like to see a Cat 8.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    kyoto kid said:

    ..so we now have Dog 8, (unsfortunately for Iray so LAMH and Garibaldi won't work for fur without making ht heavy in polys).

    So when can we expect a Cat 8? And will it actually bend like a real cat?

    Cat bones are a quantum object; there when needed (read: observed), otherwise not. :)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,175

    need a dforce cat indeed

  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,905

    Based on personal observation, cats are actually liquids, so we'd need a really good fluid simulation package to make them work right.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918

    ...yeslaugh.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,973
    th3Digit said:

    need a dforce cat indeed

     

    Based on personal observation, cats are actually liquids, so we'd need a really good fluid simulation package to make them work right.

    There's an actual real-life scientific study about whether cats are a liquid or a solid. (The answer appears to be "both", but not for the obvious reasons.)

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,363
    vwrangler said:
    th3Digit said:

    need a dforce cat indeed

     

    Based on personal observation, cats are actually liquids, so we'd need a really good fluid simulation package to make them work right.

    There's an actual real-life scientific study about whether cats are a liquid or a solid. (The answer appears to be "both", but not for the obvious reasons.)

    OK that's hilarious.  You've gotta click on the scientific report itself - the cat pictures in it are priceless.  You don't need to understand rheology to get a kick out of this.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    I would love to read it but refuse to click to allow 3rd party stuff etc.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,338
    edited June 2018

    Milennium cat with Oso fur shader - Daz Studio iray render

    https://www.daz3d.com/millennium-cat

    https://www.daz3d.com/oso-fur-shaders-for-iray

    image

    Cat05pic02g02_Vivify.jpg
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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,918
    Chohole said:

    I would love to read it but refuse to click to allow 3rd party stuff etc.

    ..same here as so often I get a popup complaining that I have an AdBlocker running (which happened) and it won't let me read the article unless I disable the blocker. or buy a yearly subscription.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,973
    edited June 2018

    Ah, OK. I've had an indirect subscription to the Post for a while, so didn't realize that was an issue.

    Science Magazine has a summary; I don't subscribe to that and didn't see any popups, so it may be OK.

    PDF - link to the Rheology Bulletin itself. Again: PDF, Adobe Acrobat, Sumatra, or similar software may be required.

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  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    edited June 2018
    Chohole said:

    I would love to read it but refuse to click to allow 3rd party stuff etc.

    You've most likely been "allowing" this normality all along, it's just that the EU has now decided you must be presented with the option of effectively not using the internet anymore. In fact, I don't recall DAZ bothering me with any GDPR twaddle; our favourite Utah saints seeming refreshingly uninterested in European "requirements" (VAT? yeah, whatev).

    The cat phase study (written in full scientist) is published in Rheology Bulletin, vol. 83, no. 2, July 2014, pp. 16-17 and 30.
    http://www.rheology.org/sor/publications/rheology_b/RB2014Jul.pdf


    Ah, pipped by vwrangler.

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,956

    I have thousands of pics of cats ( Nikon Pro Cameras) and real cats don't bend they contort like crazy.

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited June 2018
    kyoto kid said:
    Chohole said:

    I would love to read it but refuse to click to allow 3rd party stuff etc.

    ..same here as so often I get a popup complaining that I have an AdBlocker running (which happened) and it won't let me read the article unless I disable the blocker. or buy a yearly subscription.

    Ditto. I use AdBlocker because I don't trust the kind of ads it blocks not to have malware tucked away inside them. Besides, they're annoying.

    Edit: <snrk> Now that I've read the original article, I think I did myself a mischief laughing. The photos are hilarious. The photo captions even more so. I was about to say this deserves to be on the short list for an IgNobel award, then I discovered it actually won the Physics prize for last year.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,757
    edited June 2018

    I'm always surprised at the really obviously scammy pop-up ads I get from major news sites on the rare occasions I follow a link in the Apple iPhone 11.x iOS Facebook app. No scrupples from those news organizations even in ad sales and placement.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    edited June 2018

    The Hivewire cat is on sale elsewhere but I think the Millennium Cat (both are Mil Cat) holds up pretty well in IRay and has various breeds included. But no kittens... Am I missing something? Was there ever a kitten for the Millennium Cat? I think the Mil Cat actually looks better than the Hivewire one...

    Straight render. I usually do some postwork, but just as a test render, I think this came out OK. I still haven't experimented with LAMH which I guess would add a lot to both cats and dogs...

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,757

    They're OK but the fur not great. Hopefully the Cat 8 will have better fur & if that's the cast you likely won't see as good a fur made fo MilCats.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137

    They're OK but the fur not great. Hopefully the Cat 8 will have better fur & if that's the cast you likely won't see as good a fur made fo MilCats.

    I think if the resolution was bumped up in Photoshop and proper bump, SSS & normal maps were made, the fur would look much better of course. But I like the shapes of the Mil Cat better than the Hivewire one, but want a kitten. Although I'm on the fence about Dog 8, I will definitely get Cat 8 if they make one and it looks better than the Hivewire one (which I don't like based on promos, I don't have it.) If Daz makes a Cat 8, I will probably try to make a texture based on photos of my own cat. I suppose I could do that with the Mil Cat, but I'm hoping Cat 8 happens! 

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