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I wonder what the trade off would have been in time vs sales for the PA. I’d have thought including pants or leggings as well would’ve been worth the time because it would have raised sales. I pretty much immediately dismissed the product when I saw it was only underwear. I’m all for skimpwear but PA’s can provide both options in the same product package. If this product had pants/leggings as well it would have been an instabuy as the quality and design look fantastic. Bit of a shame really. As customers we probably need to demand a bit more from the PA’s. DAZ should as well.
Depending on your reason for asking, it might help to use Connect which downloads file-by-file (though you can't control which order it grabs files in). That would at least save having to download the whole 2GB again if there was an update.
I think it will be one of those unsolved mysteries.. you know where you want to know the answer but you'll actually never know.
That's awesome. There is such a rich universe from which to draw. I cannot wait to get in on the full game and experience what they have built over such a short period of time.
Yeah as mentioned before, two huge parts to the download 900 + 800 mb). You do get several texture sets of course, which you can mix and match between the parts. Also, a couple of texture elements are emissive, although you can dial that out if you want (I turned off some emissives in the thing I posted earlier).
It does look rather nice with the Pei suit (i.e. what AnotherUserName posted)...
I also tried creating a geometry shell and hiding most of that shell, and using a quilted armor shader on the shell. Here's how it works out.
Just posting this for example purposes. As you can see, a geoshell wtih a suitable shader might be an option for those looking for a 'quick and dirty' way to cover up more body areas, without having to mix this with other products.. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to quickly figure out how to separate the hand area from the arm area in the geoshell, so I used the action jacket for the upper shoulder area instead.
Ravyn's outfit looks like it might be a fun option for mixing and matching too.
I'm not a fan of the asymmetrical knee pads... fortunately I had a few other options from my library. This pilot outfit is rather 'mix and match' friendly.
BTW the eye visor has several posing options, such as twisting up and left (as I did in the render above), or flip forward and to the side.
Anyways, enough about this for now, time to get back to work on other things...
Didn't know you were a player . Only stopped playing and rping because there are no players here once the Navy left. Other than the art never really got into the online version. Shoot even Arki did a mech pilot outfit for V4/M4. As for the stiletto heals all you need to think about is Black Widow Company lol.
I didn't even consider this outfit because I thought the underwear were so odd looking with the rest of the outfit. Also not a fan of high heals, but this looks fantastic! now it's in my wish list, along with teh undersuit outfit! Thanks for posting, this looks fantastic!
Yeah, I think the point that some people don't realize is that those of us who "complain" are only asking for more options/variety, and that kind of gets lost in the noise, since you have the people who hear "We would like more options" and translate that to "Ban all the skimpwear" and then get super defensive. Geoshells, awesome and helpful as they can be, can only go so far. And the idea of having to buy even more products to make something like this palatable to someone, can be off-putting for those of us on tight budgets. (Which, again, geoshells can be helpful, but they're also fairly limited unless you know about advanced texturing)
But OTOH, I think some people aren't fully understanding of the concept of 'kitbashing', and those are the types of people who use a single product right out of the "box". Maybe there should be more educating -for lack of a better term- on the concepts of both? I dunno.
I couldn't leave well enough alone, so I went ahead and incorporated the Ravyn outfit with this one. It does complement the pilot outfit rather well, specifically the mask...
I ended up scrapping the knife holsters from the Ravyn outfit (repurposing another pistol holster for her knife), as they were embedding themselves in the leg pouches, and swapped out one of Raven knives for a suitable sci fi gun. The point here being there are lots of options... I've also made some minor scaling, etc. adjustments in a couple of body areas to 'fix' some poke through, as well as some color tweaks.
I still prefer the boots and sleeves from the action outfit, though, plus the espionage knee pads (pictured above). But the Ravyn outfit by itself works really well with this for those that might have it and are considering options... you might want to throw in a t shirt/geoshell for the exposed breast cleavage though if that's a concern.
I'd love to see an expansion for this, where a low-heeled version of the boots was included (for those of us that aren't fans of high heels), as the pilot boots from this set look very nice otherwise. Maybe also with some coolant tubes for the vest, boots, etc.. Dunno if Linday would be interested in designing such an expansion, but I'd consider buying it if it was made available. I'm sure there are a couple of other accessories that could be included as well, such as a suitable tablet for mission oriented data, with a legging pouch for the tablet being incorporated into one of the leg pouches (replacing the smaller pouches maybe). You get the idea...
Heres the outfit on Vicky 7 after using SY Genesis 8 Clones for Genesis 3, https://www.daz3d.com/sy-genesis-8-clones-for-genesis-3 .
Honestly? Had I not seen the use of kit bashing and geoshells with this outfit, in this thread, I would have passed up on it.
I'll admit that I often times complain about certain types of items, but learning more about geoshells as of late has really made me start to reconsider pieces I initially passed over.
Doesn't even have to be a geoshell, you can apply the bodysuit shader of choice directly to the skin if you don't want it showing
pants wrinkle in the wash
So does skin if in too long. :D
From the looks of things, it's not technically an outfit at all, it's a set of armor pieces. A very nice set of armor pieces. Practically designed for kitbashing.
But if it had been described as that, people would have skimed right past it.
A rose, is a rose, is a rose. Or maybe it's just a strong-smelling flower off that bush with the thorns.
I dunno. I'm seeing a lot of renders in the gallery with this set. I hope it's selling well. I know I really like it. Here I've added the body suit from the Strike Back outfit.
Here's my two cents worth on this set. I did a quick texture mod on the helmet. (The typo(?) "Aliens Slayer" on either side of the helmet was driving me crazy.)
I used Sci-Fi Samurai Bodysuit underneath and that is the Orion Dynamics: Vulture by Kindred Arts in the background as well as a wall panel from Fitler Forge (Photoshop).
Used as is or kit-bashed this outfit is AWESOME!
RE: I do wish you could remove the skull decal from the helmet.
You CAN! I did! (See my render in this thread)
But yeah, it would be nice to have a texture/shader option in the package itself.
I agree about the texturing. It's all great, but that skull and text seem very last minute, or something. Its acceptable but doesn't go with the level of detail and skill the rest of the set and the rest of the texturing has.
I really like the sort of shatter on the 3 texture you did. Gives it a great 'used' feel that matches the rest of the set. What did you use to get that? A brush set? Some found image?
Id like to know how... photoshop skills not so good
Your re-texture looks great!
I used both brushes and shapes, and even fonts (regular and dingbats) in Photoshop and - you'll see it instantly when I tell you - the shatter is actually a brush of a spiderweb(!) from Ron Diviney. I did a few different effects, but don't have them all rendered out - and they were REALLY quick stabs at it.
Oh wow! It looks great. Ill try and post the result.
And when PAs put out really complete sets with lots of options (I'm looking at you IgnisSerpentus
), customers complain about the price. Linday is an experienced PA that I expect understands the market pretty well.
LOL, wow. That is excellent work!
Ok. Went a bit further than I thought I would. I replaced the skull decal with...another skull decal (I need to organize my brushes). The body suit is the Leather Body Suit with Iray texture expansion by smay, https://www.daz3d.com/leather-body-suit , https://www.daz3d.com/leather-body-suit-iray-texture-expansion . The face mask is from Heavy Soldier outfit by Yura, https://www.daz3d.com/heavy-soldier-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s .
I love this thread. First I did not want this set because of the underwear. Now I really want this set because of all the possibilities. :)
Maybe someone should just start a Kitbasher's thread in general for anyone looking for help with it and give advice?
Actually perfect timing. My friend just posted up a dual seater update for one of his fighters. Will use the outfit with that . Post it up this weekend lol.
Go back and look at the history of the old standard Morphing Fantasy Dress and look what people made with that. Never dismiss a product just because it isn't something you would normally buy. Kitbashing is alot of fun and nicely challenging when your own modeling skills aren't quite there yet.