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In that case it would probably just have been Win 10 under the hood anyway, now. Win 10 is supposed to be much more secure, and that in itself isn't a bad thing.
That is quite scary when ya think about it, but as you said it is quite amazing there are not more of those sorts of things happening..
...I keep thinking of Airbus which doesn't employ a mechanical/hydraulic backup for their control surfaces. Even though Boeing planes also employ FBW they still have the traditional control yoke with mechanical redundancy. Airbus planes have what amounts to a "Thrustmaster™" joystick which in no way will allow the pilot to put enough back pressure on it to manually control the aircraft in the event of a full computer system failure. Granted, they have multiple backup computer systems however should they all fail (a rare occurrence but still a possibility) it would require a wing and a prayer to land safely.
If a modern day fighter loses it's on board control computers, the pilot can eject, not so on an airliner.
I'd settle for 2 wings and swearing
Because such controls would be futile on an airbus in the event of a primary control failure. They call it "air bus" for a reason.
My employer is phasing in a cloud-based OS to replace the various Windows editions scattered through the facility. It's already being used at some workstations, and it's easy for the worker drones to mess up the few editable files they have access to as part of their recordkeeping. When the intranet goes down, there's no access. When the corporate server goes down, there's no local redundant to pick up the load.
The most stable version of Windows was NT 4 workstation SP3. Aside from opening 4 CPU and RAM intensive applications at once via batch file, and a buggy AMD video driver, I didn't see any BSOD on it. Had they kept that architecture and simply upgraded it to 64-bit, we would not have had the various insults that came after, like Windows ME, 2K, and Vista. XP was tolerable. Win 7 is tolerable. I know a lot of people hated the interface of Win 8/8.1, but since I was using the same thing on an Xbox360 for a year before it was inflicted upon the PC crowd, I was used to the "tiles" thing. It's not any different, really, than most smarty phone control schemes.
Windows is a target for every wannabe hacker on the planet, and there is a large segment of the teenage and college population who have dedicated their worthless lives to looking for any way to crash it, claiming they're exposing critical flaws in the program and are not deserving of mutilation or jail time. When Windows goes to the cloud (vaporware defined, mind you) they will take it as a personal challenge. And Windows-based cars controlled by the cloud as well? Yeah, you ever heard of Grand Theft Auto, or Carmageddon? Video games come to life for some of these haXXor d-bags.
As long as the DAZ guys can continue with their work updating Hexagon to 64 bit before being syphoned off to re-code DIM, I'll be okay. The three installed and activated copies of Win10 that I have can remain stored away on their hard drives in a cardboard box in my closet indefinitely.
I'm currently installing W7; best upgrade to W10 so far.
If Daz would move to linux, so would I.
What most people want from a computer they would be fine with Linux (oh wait, smart phone users are already using a variant, and a UNIX variant too).
I would move Studio to Linux in a heartbeat if I could.
....same here.
^What they said - I think DS is the only program I couldn't do without on a Linux machine - most others (including the games I play now) have a Linux version or a great alternative.
For Daz to move "Linux" They would be obligated to support it.
Which of course means that Daz will have to Arbritrarily
Pick from a long list of variants:
(Redhat,CentOS,Fedora,openSUSE,Mandrake etc., etc.)
And then somehow enforce that version on all DS users wanting to run the linux version
And commit Dev resources to staying current with the constant builds
of that one single variant Daz has chosen to attempt to support.
And this does not even address the issue of popular third party vendor plugins
from people like Zev0 and others who will have the learn linux to make their
products work .
Respectfully dissagree.
what people really want is UNIFORM STANDARDS.
that allow content and application developers to deliver content& products that simply work without
the end user having to be bothered with making sure the underlying OS is the right
"build"
The Harsh realty is that it does not really matter how amazing and stable
your platform is or frankly how rubbish it is (to a point).
The only thing that matters, to the consumer,
is having a wide variety of content/application choices not any
Nerdy Mcnerd techno-babble about the Greatness of the underlying platform.
Technically true,
however in their minds smartphone users are using their beloved "apps"
that are mostly reliable, plentiful and extremely lost cost or free ..not Unix.
And any required updates to their underlying
Android or Apple IOS platforms are automated much like it how
happens on windows computers.
Yeah, there's no such thing as "linux". Theres 353 million different variations, and from what I've seen most of them are a mess. There's one that I'll use (Mint), but grudgingly. Nice idea, but too many times when you need to jump over to the command line to fix something or install something. I was done with command line stuff decades ago. Yeah, versions like Mint/Mate are very Windows-like, which I'm used to, but if I want something I'm used to why not stick with Windows? Last thing I need is to become familiar with another operating system.
Plus the fact I can't use the wonderful MS Visual Studio for software development, since Linux has nothing like it. And so on with other apps.
Standards don't always work either. The US Government has the "Bureau of Standards" which gave us the RS-232 connection "Standard"
which had at least as many variants as Linux does. A "standard" is defined by a committee which often produces an elephant when designing a horse. A true standard would have the military behind it to intimidate potential violators. 
Standards? I love standards, so many to choose from
They would pick a version; perhaps with input from users.
Many of the main builds release versions that have long term support, again Daz would likely select one of those.
... Folks are free to use whatever they want, but those that just want something that works, select the version of Linux that Daz choses - pretty much like what happens now: we chose windows (in my case) because Daz Studio is on it. Yes I use alternatives, but I've never had any luck getting it to work through Wine.
Of the Linux distros, Elementary OS looks interesting if you like the look of MacOS, then as you said Mint Linux, the other is Ubuntu since it is quite user friendly.. But in all would love to see Linux see more support from major developers but ah well..
I agree that that standards are important, I want a standard that I can rely on to do all the things I want. But it has to be a standard that will do what you need it to do. My problem with Windows is that I have to rely on one commercial organisation, and that organisation sems to be increasingly less interested in supporting the way I want to use my computer and more interested in pushing things that I don't want. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but I've seen this sort of thing before. I like to have all my music on one portable player, I'm still using an iPod classic (and praying it will keep working) because no-one makes hard drive mp3 players anymore.
I would love to see Daz Studio, Bryce and Carrara on Linux, then I would have more confidence that I could kep on using them. Maybe it would be possible if Daz picked a particular distribution but I expect it would take a lot of work. I doubt it would happen unless future development made it difficult for Daz to support their software on future versions of Windows, but that might just happen.
Ahh, that takes me back. RS-232 was one of the things that kept me in work back in the early days of MS-DOS. I was doing compter support then and one thing that was always coming up was someone wanted to use a serial printer with some piece of software and it didn't work. I had my breakout box which I would connect up and fiddle around with. Some printers would only work if an obscure control line was on and the computer wasn't using that one, sometimes you needed to cross over the data lines and sometimes you didn't... I ended up with a solution sometimes crossing lines over, sometimes connecting two pins together in the plug, then our hardware people would make up a special cable and the user was happy (well a bit happier).
Whilst some of the older versions of Windwos have received flack (warranted imo) for their quality, they did at least have the goal of providing support for the various applications that a use might want to run (generally at least); Windows 10's goal seems to be different (IMO), its purpose is to make money from customers.
How is that different from earlier versions?
The sale made cash, now the use of said OS is to make cash (IMO), and it is tweaked to better accomplish that.
As I recall, there are three bases; RedHat, Debian and Slackware. The rest are generally a variation of one of the big three. For instance, Ubuntu is based on Debian, and CentOS is essentially RedHat Enterprise Linux without the RedHat logos, and Fedora is yet another RedHat variant. Picking a base and build system for the executable files, and the availability of the required versions of the support libraries (like QT4 and PostgreSQL) is the first step; they already know mostly how to deal with a UNIX/UNIX-like OS, since they build the application for Mac OS.
While I can definitely understand and even agree up to a point with where you're coming from on this, I hate to break it to you but it is starting to look like public transit, including busses, are going to be one of the first markets to go automated on a widespread basis
"unless future development made it difficult for Daz to support their software on future versions of Windows"
Actually, from what I garnered from the limited information currently available, that is precisely what is going to occur to some degree. Take the enforcement of UWP, for example. Would DAZ Studio, as it stands, be compliant? Then there is the whole issue of dropping of 32 bit support. Sure, if you happen to have Windows 10 Pro, they will include some sort of emulator that will supposedly allow 32 bit code to be executed, but even if the emulator works perfectly (and they often don't), emulators are no substitute for running code natively. At the very least there is always substantial overhead from running them that consumes system resources and slows everything down. And if you happen to have Windows 10 standard, apparently you are going to be out of luck anyway, unless you upgrade.
So, DAZ Studio is 64 bit, though, so it shouldn't matter, right? Well, just because an application is 64 bit does not necessarily mean that all the code that it uses is 64 bit. Do you use DIM?
And I don't like to be a fear monger, but it doesn't look too good going forward for the dedicated Bryce users. For everyone else, try this: in Windows Explorer (or File Manager or whatever its called in W10), open the Program Files (x86) folder. Look at what is there on your PC. Anything important to you? And don't forget to check all the stuff in the Common Files folder and its subfolders, because everything there is based upon 32 bit code as well.
Is the sky going to fall? Nope. But there will be pain to some degree or another if the early indications hold true. And nobody responsible seems to be particularly concerned whether we want it or like it, because to paraphrase the line from the movie, "when they want our opinion, they'll give it to us". What's not to love?
End rant.
...they tried it in Vegas and it crashed on it's maiden run because it's algorithms couldn't respond properly to human randomness and spontaneity. Until you get the monkey brain out from behind the wheel of every vehicle on the road, incidents like this will continue occur with relative frequency.
Think I will stick with Win 7.
...the "new"system I recently acquired has W7.
I have been using my ASUS G74 for the last 8 years and plan on keepign it around for as long as possible. It has an old NVIDA G560 in it and three internal hard drives for a total of 3TB of space, so it is literally a mobile studio for me.
...I am updating my original workstation to 24 GB and 6 core Xeon X5660 and a GTX 750 Ti 4 GB GPU (originally had a 1 GB GT 460). That's about as far as I can take it without building an entirely new system.
That is a nice rig compared to what I have available, new systems are seriousy out of my budget. I am at the limit of the G74 myself 16gb of RAM since its an older motherboard. My only option is to look into a possible newer version that I can salvage for upgrades. Later versions had up to 64GB of RAM, not wanting to shell out $3K+ for a comparable new laptop.
...yeah built it 5 years ago, X58 Chipset, LGA 1366, socket DDR3 memory. Yeah not a speedster with Iray, but still gets the job done.
Though 3DL with IBL Master can give some pretty nice results in a fraction of the time.
By hook or by crook, the robot cars are coming. The insurance industry will get the monkey brains off the road by jacking up the cost of insurance for human drivers. Profits will soar. It's only a matter of when.