OT: Codename Polaris the next version of Windows.
Ghosty12
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As the title says the linked video is info on the next version of Windows.. Won't go into it I will let the video try to explain it, but the one part of it seems that if you have Windows 10 Pro, it looks like they will not try to shoehorn people off of it, in favour of the new OS like they did with Win7 / 8.1.. The one thing that does have me somewhat concerned is this major push to UWP, only time will tell I spose, but I do plan on getting Win 10 Pro..
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He contradicts himself - he says that advanced users will probably want to stay with Windows 10 but only because they want to use the legacy primitive systems in Windows 10 that are security risks instead of moving to Polaris that removes all the primitive legacy systems and is adding more advanced and efficient systems.
Personally if Unity & DAZ 3D & Blender can run on Polaris I will upgrade. He did mention the there will be support to 32-bit apps but since the old Win32 system won't be there it will probably be ran via some sort 32 bit API emulation on 64 bit libraries.
If you've ever looked into all the Windows trojans and such out there shared among would be script kiddie hackers they are almost invariably using Win32 or older legacy components of Windows to affect the hack.
Sounds like it's going to be a light weight- browser based experience like you have on chromebooks. Definitely not something I will be making use of any time soon.
No it's not. And that's where the announcer contradicted himself. You can't say Win32 is legacy and a security risk while at the same time claiming that advanced users want to use it. 'Advanced' users and businesses with specialized programs that use Win32 now must face the task of updating their programs for Polaris or loose market to a business that does do that.
It's basically Windows 10 with the security and bug risks Win32 stripped out. Will most people use Windows for browsing & youtube & such? Yes, but it is still improved faster and securer version of Windows 10 capable of running more advanced, securer, and easier to develop applications like Unity 3D.
Didn't Microsoft say that there would be no more "new versions" after Win 10?
Yeah, that's definitely what I heard. Darn. I haven't needed a new version of Windows in decades, ever since it went 64 bit. An OS should be silent, in the background, with no fancy features. Just allow me to run my software and work with hardware. That's it. I don't need or want all of this ridiculous mobile-based nonsense.
Darn.
Agreed.
By the way, I think it's fairly hilarious watching these vendors try to come up with new exciting stuff to make people buy stuff they absolutely don't need. Foldable stuff in different form factors that are just a way for somone to get excited for "new, shiny", when in fact they're just goofy. Kind of like desktop monitors. Now they have 4k and 8k, what are they gonna come up with next to excite users? And it must be REALLY difficult for MS, since an operating system is designed to sit in the background and allow you to run the really cool software. So somehow they have to figure out how to be relevant. So they try to take over the mobile world.
They're trying to make it idiot proof, but the idiots are out pacing them.
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...so much for "The Last Operating System You'll Ever Need".
I guess that implies that we don't need Polaris...straight from Microsoft's mouth
...yeah, marketing, ya gotta love it.
They did. Polaris is just a continuation of Windows 10 I think. Like the Spring Creators and Fall Creators.
As far as the last operating system you'll ever need that is still true. You just need to stick with the last operating system you want and like magic it's reality and becomes the last operating system you'll ever need. Be prepared to find in the future that the Last OS you'll ever need would theorectically still work just fine in 5 or 10 years time but no modern hardware then will run that OS, so hope that old hardware that will run the OS can be found on eBay and elsewhere.
I agree with this
My "loyalty" ,so to speak ,Has alway been to the features
of software packages that performed tasks I needed them
to do to acheive my objectives..never the under lying OS
Hmm.. Face bones, Extra twistbones in the Limbs,
a much higher version number suffix (8)
Separate eyelash geometry........
Either way it will be interesting to see what sort of shenanigans MS get up to, as we all know they will..
I've heard rumours of this elesewhere. As I understand the idea is to create a lightweight device with a good display but which offloads most of the processing onto the cloud. Not something that I want.
But it might be an inevitable trend. In the beginning home computers were mainly hobbyist devices. As they became more powerful and connected people who weren't interested in computers found they could be useful so more and more were sold and they became standard consumer devices. But now most people who buy computers don't really need all the processing power of a modern computer. Maybe the sort of computers we are using now will shrink back to a small hobbyist market and most people will be using simpler devices to connect to the cloud.
If this does happen I wonder how it would affect businesses like Daz. Right now anyone who has a reasonably powerful computer can come across the Daz website, think it looks interesting, try out Daz Studio and become a customer. But I don't think these lightweight devices will be able to run Studio so the potential customer base could shrink to just people who were interested enough in computers to buy a more powerful system.
Underpowered cheap computers are the bane of rational existence, because they are behind the push to reduce the mesh resolution of next-gen figures because they want to render stunning panoramic 3D CGI videos in 4K-and-up with 2K texturs and specular and reflectivity and fully dynamic hair, cloth, and skin, but a figure with more polygons eats up the RAM in their electric potato which only has a battery life of 15 minutes anyway but it's all they can afford because they live in a post-apocalypse survival bunker because they've had it with the dull drudgery of work-a-day tidal waves and that whole "get out of bed and go to work" thing that makes a better desktop system that can run high-res figures affordable.
"The Last Over-convenienced-User System You need" is more like it. "Do it all in the cloud, slowly, while giving away your personal information, and your artwork if you have any, thanks to our binding EULA which is a "take it or leave it" contract.
...even more reason to avoid it. I don't even care for software by subscription let alone working in the cloud which is dependent of connectivity speed and quality. An OS that is cloud dependent? No deal.
I've always been fond of the use-it-until-you-can't-fix-it school.
My car is now 31 years old, my motorcycle 19, my home 43...
I have money in the bank, food in the fridge, and friends across the street.
What more do I need?
My girlfriend bugged me to get a new car. My old one... One Christmas Eve,
we went to WallyWorld and I forgot where I parked it. Coming out, lot packed...
I took a chance and asked one of the cart boys if he'd seen my car.
Before I could describe it, Suzan piped up with: "It's the ugliest car in the lot!"
He replied, pointing: "Must be the gold Buick. It's over there."
So anyway, I finally went new car shopping with her. Found a beautiful Mustang GT ragtop,
dark blue, white interior. (I cannot have a white interior. It becomes grey, or brown,
or splotchy black). Talked to the salesman, talked to the finance guy, talked to USAA.
Looked at sales and property taxes.
Told Suzan what the total monthly expense would be (Most people only look at the
payment - BIG mistake!)
About $850/month. Her response? "You can afford it!"
Mine? "But that's $850 I won't have to spend on you!"
She looked at me, looked at the finance guy, looked back at me and said,
"Keep your old car!"
I didn't tell her I would have paid cash.
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I still use Windows 7 and am quite happy with it. I use 10 at work and its meh. Don't foresee the need to change that at this point.
Huh? They just killed Windows Phone for good. But maybe they think they can make something different and better than what the all the others make, instead.
And no one wants to fix what's wrong with the current product (no profit)
before coming out with the newest shiny (Much profit).
And if I hear one more upsnoot claim "Oh, you're just afraid of anything new", I'm gonna puke on their $250.00 Nikes.
Or, "People who are afraid of anything with the word 'cloud' in it",
or, "Anything that I wuuuvs and you don't!"
If Microsoft had just stuck with updating Windows 7, most people would probably have been perfectly happy with it.
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...MS Self Driving Cars.
...uh....on second thought, think I'll take the bus.
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LOL. Well, back in the days before Windows 2000 that might have been a relevant remark, but I think they've done pretty well since, when it comes to stability. Except for a couple of cases with RAM sticks going bad, I haven't had a BSOD on any of my Windows machines for several years. There have been a few bugs, but they haven't been serious or caused any damage. Just had a major upgrade (Creators Fall I think) that took two hours, and that went flawless.
Considering everything has to work on hundreds of millions of different PCs with different configurations, many of which have faulty or poor quality hardware, bad drivers, corrupted file systems and god knows what, I think it's impressive that there aren't more problems. I mean, if a major update goes fine on 90% of systems, I think it can be safely concluded that for a good part of those who are experiencing problems, it's not Microsoft's fault.
...just not comfortable with the prospect of seeing a "not responding" message suddenly pop up as I'm hurtling down the highway at 100KPH and coming up to a curve because of a bug in the last update.
Microsoft may not be the worst when it comes to security. Quote:
"I worked at Boeing on the 787 project for a while, and their software projects are all horribly managed and implemented. Nobody I know who worked at Boeing will ever fly on a 787. I'm honestly surprised they're not falling out of the sky every day."
..not talking security, just buggy updates to the software like we have been getting all along.