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  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    edited April 2018
    j cade said:
    agent unawares said:
    jason.lin22 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...a return to PDF tutorials.

     

    Why PDF tutorials? They are so difficult to follow.

    Searchability, printability, easy to follow along at your own pace instead of the

    sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

    speed of video tutorials, better for jumping around from part to part, take up less space, translatable...

    Personally I'd prefer more indexed video tutorials, say, instead of 1 hour long tutorial a playlist of smaller individual bits. benefits of seeing the stuff but improved searchability

     

    I don't like pdfs personally thogh my prefered style is video taking up half my screen softwear on the other and play along, having to read means you can't model at the same time

    I think we learn the exact opposite way. To not go crazy I have to watch most videos on 2X speed (which is still too slow, thanks youtube), but I like to absorb the basics of a concept, try it on my own, then go back through the instructions if I hit a snag. I can't do watching and following along at the same time at all.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,051
    edited April 2018
    JOdel said:
    kyoto kid said:
    maikdecker said:
    kyoto kid said:
    maikdecker said:
     

    Or more european stuff of all types of things. Like european food... police uniforms... furniture... everyday stuff.

    ...still hoping for a complete English country manor, whether modular like the old "Dream Home" or as a single product with interiors.

    I'd rather have more stuff from the continent. Considering that quite a few houses in the USA are built from british examples, there are - in my opinion - quite a few buildings in the shop that could pass as british. But where's the french, german, italian etc. farm houses? Wood and whitewashed plaster buildings, like in many german towns.. only some fantasy and pseudo historical ones can be found.

    No that I wouldn''t like an english manor house... but there would be so many more other things around from all over europe...

    ...a true English Country manor really doesn't exist for Daz.  There is sort of one for Carrara (but it is more "continental" in architecture). The other closest is Blenworth but it is only an exterior and more a castle like structure (inspired most likely by the Waterloo House at the Tower of London).

    Waterloo house Tower of London:

    It's a bit of a pain to work with, but over on Rendo, Powerage has an exterior set called Rose Rouge. It's modular, and you can kinda-sorta use the pieces (which, unfortunately are mostly frontages. Few have more than 2 walls) to build any number of facades of manor houses. It's a red brick structure with a tan 'stone' accent and sort of works for a fairly broad range of periods. Pretty much anything within hailing distance of Tudor, although not specifically that.

     


    ..I'd need to see how it was mapped as some textures don't look like they would reproduce well in either 3DL or Iray (I can see a lot of "obvious" tiling).  Also difficult to tell from the promos if the "glass" windows are indeed clear and there is some interior space, or photo textures (that makes a big difference for close up and night scenes, I've seen storefronts with merchandise windows that are simply photo textures and at some camera angles they look terribly "off").

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,051
    nicstt said:
    kyoto kid said:
    maikdecker said:
    kyoto kid said:
    maikdecker said:
     

    Or more european stuff of all types of things. Like european food... police uniforms... furniture... everyday stuff.

    ...still hoping for a complete English country manor, whether modular like the old "Dream Home" or as a single product with interiors.

    I'd rather have more stuff from the continent. Considering that quite a few houses in the USA are built from british examples, there are - in my opinion - quite a few buildings in the shop that could pass as british. But where's the french, german, italian etc. farm houses? Wood and whitewashed plaster buildings, like in many german towns.. only some fantasy and pseudo historical ones can be found.

    No that I wouldn''t like an english manor house... but there would be so many more other things around from all over europe...

    ...a true English Country manor really doesn't exist for Daz.  There is sort of one for Carrara (but it is more "continental" in architecture). The other closest is Blenworth but it is only an exterior and more a castle like structure (inspired most likely by the Waterloo House at the Tower of London).

    Waterloo house Tower of London:

    Those are more classed as country houses.

    A manor is smaller, but follows a certain style as a rule; although the divide can blur somewhat. A manor would be more like 10 or so bedrooms; a country house many more.

    https://www.onthemarket.com/for-sale/manor-house/uk/

    Some great examples here.

    The term 'Lord of the Manor', was where there was generally a titled personage living locally, and was probably the only one in the area, and was often the main or sole employer.

    Manor houses, it seems, grew in size, and became very stately - probably why there is some blurring (and probably disagreement) over what should be applied to the term.

    ..true, nobles usually had a sprawling country estate and usually a townhouse in London.

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    agent unawares said:
    j cade said:
    agent unawares said:
    jason.lin22 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...a return to PDF tutorials.

     

    Why PDF tutorials? They are so difficult to follow.

    Searchability, printability, easy to follow along at your own pace instead of the

    sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

    speed of video tutorials, better for jumping around from part to part, take up less space, translatable...

    Personally I'd prefer more indexed video tutorials, say, instead of 1 hour long tutorial a playlist of smaller individual bits. benefits of seeing the stuff but improved searchability

     

    I don't like pdfs personally thogh my prefered style is video taking up half my screen softwear on the other and play along, having to read means you can't model at the same time

    I think we learn the exact opposite way. To not go crazy I have to watch most videos on 2X speed (which is still too slow, thanks youtube), but I like to absorb the basics of a concept, try it on my own, then go back through the instructions if I hit a snag. I can't do watching and following along at the same time at all.

    Probably. My recall is absolutely terrible if I'm not actively *doing* something (and reading doesn't quite count as doing, as I'm a very skimmy reader). Like, even listening to something vs. listening and drawing random squiggles, will make a huge difference for me.

    So reading or watching a tutor, and then trying to do it, I have to refer back so much I might have well just not read/watched before starting, but watching and pausing while following along and not only can I but the next time I do whatever I learned I barely have to refer back at all
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,051
    jason.lin22 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...a return to PDF tutorials.

     

    Why PDF tutorials? They are so difficult to follow.

    ...depends, I find them much easier to use than having to stop - rewind - replay,  stop - rewind - replay ad nausea to figure out how a process is handled. Video (particularly online) also takes up more system resources than having a PDF open, and when you are on an older system that doesn't have the horsepower newer ones do, every bit of CPU and memory resource you can save is very important.

    Add to that the fact many of the free video tutorials I have seen are very poorly produced which makes it even more difficult to glean information, particularly if you suffer from short term memory or hearing issues (there are times it sounds like the narrator has a bucket over his head or his face firmly planted into a pillow).  I can also take a PDF with me on a netbook and read it at my leisure wherever without needing to find a hotspot and worry about connect speeds, waiting for wireless buffering, or being hacked.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    j cade said:

     having to read means you can't model at the same time

    For me it's exactly the opposite. Having to concentrate on a video - usually in a foreign language (english, or worse, american english - doesn't allow me to model along. Add to that, for me many people "teaching" stuff on the internet through videos have a terrible teaching ability. They either expect too much or too little previous knowledge. Their setup for whatever program use they want to teach doesn't look anywhere like mine.

    With a pdf I can "learn at my speed" and when I print it out - what I usually do, because paper > screen - I can have that text ready with the part I want to try out when I want to try it out.

    Yes, I'm oldfashioned. I don't have an E-Reader, but still read books made from paper. I don't use an whateverPad, but my PC for all things internetty. And I don't even use a cellphone.

    So for other dinosaurs like me pdfs would be a really great solution.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,051

    ...indeed. 

    Though I live in the states I have seen a few vids where, for the creator, English is definitely a second language and sometimes a native accent tends to muddle what is being said. 

    Part of the reason I will only deal with chat instead of phone support.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318
    agent unawares said:
    j cade said:
    agent unawares said:
    jason.lin22 said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...a return to PDF tutorials.

     

    Why PDF tutorials? They are so difficult to follow.

    Searchability, printability, easy to follow along at your own pace instead of the

    sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

    speed of video tutorials, better for jumping around from part to part, take up less space, translatable...

    Personally I'd prefer more indexed video tutorials, say, instead of 1 hour long tutorial a playlist of smaller individual bits. benefits of seeing the stuff but improved searchability

     

    I don't like pdfs personally thogh my prefered style is video taking up half my screen softwear on the other and play along, having to read means you can't model at the same time

    I think we learn the exact opposite way. To not go crazy I have to watch most videos on 2X speed (which is still too slow, thanks youtube), but I like to absorb the basics of a concept, try it on my own, then go back through the instructions if I hit a snag. I can't do watching and following along at the same time at all.

    I'm a lot like that too, and I find it really hard to learn anything if I'm not left to get on with it on my own. It's probably the biggest reason why I've never learned to drive (and there have been lots!). It's kind of frowned upon to let someone loose with a car and tell them to go and get on with it alone though :)

    I mostly prefer videos by far, but not all videos are created equal and an irritating personality or a distracting style of presentation can make a PDF suddenly seem a lot more appealing. I've got a bit of a thing about how often the expression 'Go ahead and...' is (over)used unnecessarily in videos - dozens of times sometimes in just one of them. 'Now go ahead and...', 'I'll just go ahead and...'. There's even a Blender tutorial doing the rounds where 'the line goes ahead and...'. No-one else seems to have noticed that YouTube would probably have less content amounting to years worth if that phrase was eliminated so I know it's just a 'me' thing and try to ignore it, but the minute someone comes out with it, I'll lose concentration and my mind starts wandering. 'Go ahead, punk. Make my... bed' :)

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,940
    edited April 2018

     PDF's may be useful to one framers.

    However for  an animator /VFX producer.
    PDF 's are beyond useless for instructing people
    in  complex animation tasks.frown

    I have a vast library of video tutorials

    downloaded & saved to which I often refer.

    And for every poorly done video with bad sound/articulation
    on YT there are several excellent & FREE ones covering the exact same subject.

    I dont understand how people will scour all creation looking for
    a certain type of  hat for their beloved genesis models
    yet give up and  universally declare video tutorials useless based on one video where the guy used a rubbish microphone
    or  was speaking German. 

    Imagine trying to learn this from only still pictures & text

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,034

    It doesn't have to be either/or - a video can have captions (apparently even searchable captions) while a text/PDF tutorial can have video sections to show things actions being performed (especially useful for things that are not made of discrete steps). I do prefer text as a baseline, but it's certainly true that some things are harder to describe than to show.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    kyoto kid said:
    nicstt said:
    kyoto kid said:
    maikdecker said:
    kyoto kid said:
    maikdecker said:
     

    Or more european stuff of all types of things. Like european food... police uniforms... furniture... everyday stuff.

    ...still hoping for a complete English country manor, whether modular like the old "Dream Home" or as a single product with interiors.

    I'd rather have more stuff from the continent. Considering that quite a few houses in the USA are built from british examples, there are - in my opinion - quite a few buildings in the shop that could pass as british. But where's the french, german, italian etc. farm houses? Wood and whitewashed plaster buildings, like in many german towns.. only some fantasy and pseudo historical ones can be found.

    No that I wouldn''t like an english manor house... but there would be so many more other things around from all over europe...

    ...a true English Country manor really doesn't exist for Daz.  There is sort of one for Carrara (but it is more "continental" in architecture). The other closest is Blenworth but it is only an exterior and more a castle like structure (inspired most likely by the Waterloo House at the Tower of London).

    Waterloo house Tower of London:

    Those are more classed as country houses.

    A manor is smaller, but follows a certain style as a rule; although the divide can blur somewhat. A manor would be more like 10 or so bedrooms; a country house many more.

    https://www.onthemarket.com/for-sale/manor-house/uk/

    Some great examples here.

    The term 'Lord of the Manor', was where there was generally a titled personage living locally, and was probably the only one in the area, and was often the main or sole employer.

    Manor houses, it seems, grew in size, and became very stately - probably why there is some blurring (and probably disagreement) over what should be applied to the term.

    ..true, nobles usually had a sprawling country estate and usually a townhouse in London.

    multple estates in some cases; iirc the Duke of Devonshire still owns huge parts of London.

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