dForce Simulation & Daz freezing/crashing
N-RArts
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I'm trying to use dForce again, but when the window gets to 94% (simulating from memorised pose), Daz freezes/crashes, and then I have to end program. I tried a again a little while ago, and the program froze at 86%.
I've managed to get one simulation out of dForce, and that's it. 
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My old GTX680 is having similar issues, Today, I updated the nVidia drivers to the latest version, and installed Opencl 2.0 for the intel CPU. Now I've got 2 options to choose from for the dForce simulation, and while not yet done must testing, sofar less 'crashes' - not perfect yet, but better then before....
With clothing that is meant to be dForce compatible or making your own conversions? Is it always the same pose - if body parts intersect with cloth between them then that will at least cause the clothes to explode, a crash does seem an extreme reaction. Are you using GPU or CPU to drape (GPU is the default if you have one with OpenCL support).
My very first try I had the garment explode and fly apart in slow motion. I just let it run and eventually it quit with an error message. dForce wouldn't do anything more until I restarted DS so I think the driver crashed or something similar. But DS itself didn't crash or stop responding. I have a GTX 1070 so it's a fairly recent card but not top of the line or anything. I did have to update to the latest Nvidia graphics driver to get it to run the first time though.
I am having the same issue. Every time I get to about 16-36%, my whole DAZ crashes and closes.
I've tried using 4 different outfits (v4, G1 and 2 G3s) on both a G1 and a G3 character. None are dForce ready-made outfits. 3 different poses.
Edit: I finally got 1 to work! Undead Wizard Outfit for Genesis 3 Male(s) Robe on Michael 7. Didn't hold together well, but at least it didn't crash. As far as I know I did everything the exact same way, so why did this one work and no others?
I found with using my GTX 650 TI and certain clothing I would get black crash screens and Daz throwing a fit and crashing.. I turned to the CPU option and not having as many issues though have found that it can be hit and miss with clothing.. You can never tell what will and will not work when it comes to turning conforming clothing into dynamic clothing..
Try the Dardot outfit from the dForce Starter Essentials - that should certainly work.
I think I've found the problem. Daz seems to crash when there is hair in the scene during simulation. I set up a brand new scene using Aiko 7, I didn't add any hair to the scene and the simulation worked perfectly.
I haven't tried to simulate other clothing, as I don't know where to start or what to do. It can't be as easy as simulating dForce-Ready clothing.
When you have hair in the scene do you have Visible in Simulation set to On for the hair under the Display settings? I always set hair to Off so it doesn't interact with the clothes.
I don't have anything called dForce Starter Essentials. Maybe that means everything didn't download properly? There's nothing by that name in my DIM, where should I go to download it?
It should be in your product library. Try https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_47939
For me it was added automatically as part of Daz Studio Pro BETA but I imagine it's part of the non-Beta as well.
I have found a number of tricks that work with keeping things working in dforce.
You need to pose the garment on the character so it does not poke through the item.
if you don't think this will work when it simulates from the T pose, then turn off the render from memorized pose option.
use a push modifier, to keep the garment from intersecting with the body. You can set the threashold higher than usual and then set it to a lower value later.
the beauty of dforce is that you can use the morphs, smooth modifiers and push modifiers befor and after the simulation.
Don't forget that you can add deformers to fix stuff as well.
dforce is much more versitile than VWD and the old dynamic clothing plugin, but you have to get creative to get it to do everything you want.
Try stuff, try crazy stuff...if the cloth explodes, most likely you had an intersection issue, much like when you use a smoothin modifier where the body intersects too closley with another body part.
Hide hair, and other things that you dont want the drape to come in contact with.
Keep swimming!
dforce is actually a very cool item, and it gets easier, the more you try and fail and try again.
JD
Nope, not in my product library. Not in my DIM for download either. I wonder if they forgot to include it in the non-Beta version?
It looks like they did forget. I looked in my Product Library and Daz Studio 4.x Pro doesn't include it.
Just "buy" the beta here: https://www.daz3d.com/daz-studio-beta You don't have to install the beta but it will put the dForce Essenttials into your product library.
I just looked for another user and it's in my product library for me. It should also appear in DIM. Check your hidden files and your settings. Try this https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_47939. If you don't find it do you have the Beta? It is part of that so if you don't have it you need to get it.
That link worked perfectly, thank you! That Starter Essentials outfit simulates fine, so I'm going to guess maybe I'm just unlucky in the items I'm picking. I'll keep trying, thanks again!
Glad to help :)
I've reported that dForce Starter Essentials is not in the products associated with the release build of DS.
dForce starter essentials was in my DIM queue since the 4.10 beta was available. Downloaded fine with the release version of Studio
Yes, it just wasn't associated with the release version so people who didn't ahve the beta in their account wouldn't get the dForce content. This shold now be fixed, though it may need a prod to show in accounts.
It's in the https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176 package now.
After some successful tests with hair and after being advised, that dForce is for clothing only (!), I now tested with clothing.
I have a G3 character wearing the Run-with-it Shorts. He should sit on a chair so the underside of the shorts would be correctly positioned on the seat this way.
Formerly this only was possible by applying complicated dFormers.
But, just after only a few steps ( the character still standing due to "start from memorized Pose") the simulation slowly gets stuck and finally the cloth simply explodes round the character.