Can I skip or Kill DAZ Connect...which sucks, btw.

mjc1016

In order for Connect to connect to the server YOU need to initiate the connection...by logging in, through the login dialog INSIDE Studio.

That's about as much 'calling home' as using a browser to login to your account page.

ANGELREAPER1972

even though I have Studio and content downloaded via dim installed on my f drive which is raided with my d drive both being 2TB connect/cloud still downloads installs onto my very small main c drive at present 205GB worth that's over my monthly download limit  never had an option or see one to have connect/cloud download to my f/d drives 

Leana

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Well yes, if you tell it to login to the DAZ servers it does indeed connect to them, that's basically the point....

mjc1016

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

even though I have Studio and content downloaded via dim installed on my f drive which is raided with my d drive both being 2TB connect/cloud still downloads installs onto my very small main c drive at present 205GB worth that's over my monthly download limit  never had an option or see one to have connect/cloud download to my f/d drives 

Manually move the entire folder to the desired drive and follow this guide to make Windows think it's still where it was on the SSD.

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

 

Leana

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

even though I have Studio and content downloaded via dim installed on my f drive which is raided with my d drive both being 2TB connect/cloud still downloads installs onto my very small main c drive at present 205GB worth that's over my monthly download limit  never had an option or see one to have connect/cloud download to my f/d drives 

You can change the Connect directory in DS preferences, it's at the same place as other content directories (edit > preferences > content library IIRC). I would suggest logging out before changing it. You can only list one connect directory IIRC, so you would need to move the content in your older cloud directory to the new location after changing it.

It would be nice if Studio provided an option to check / change the Connect directory the first time you log in, though, instead of using the default path automatically.... Not that it affects me much as I don't use Connect, but still ;)

shadowhawk1

Richard Haseltine said:

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Surely logged in and called home are synonyms?

I still don't understand WHY it was done this way, there is no real reason that studio NEEDS to be connected to the internet when DIM is fully capable of doing what connect does.

shadowhawk1

Leana said:

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Well yes, if you tell it to login to the DAZ servers it does indeed connect to them, that's basically the point....

And that is the problem many people are having with connect. Updates to Studio are done through downloads via DIM. Content won't install content where your main content is, that is unacceptable, every other program that I get updates or downloaded content like Steam or Star Wars The Old Republic install to MY selected locations instead of studio refusing its location and instead downloading to the C: drive. Why is it so hard to understand that people don't always instal to C: Drive?

ANGELREAPER1972

was just looking and well I do have a connect folder on the drive I use prefer too and another daz my library folder so basicly 3 versions so right now I'm doing what you guys said and moving the entire daz folder not just connect out of my documents on my c drive onto merging it with my preferred one on my f drive hopefully have no problems  then I'll try that iirc thing wonder if this will fix the other issue where Imy beta version was working but the other full version had trouble locating files and basicly useless 

ANGELREAPER1972

oh and also the thing where install stuff via dim but still had to install via connect and vice versa and sometimes several times 

ANGELREAPER1972

yeah most don't install to c drive because now days they are so small and quickly filled luckily most computers now have extra larger drives to componsate for the c drive but when you don't get offered that choice to install on another drive wellthat is a problem

Leana

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Surely logged in and called home are synonyms?

I still don't understand WHY it was done this way, there is no real reason that studio NEEDS to be connected to the internet when DIM is fully capable of doing what connect does.

The only real advantage I see in the way Connect handles updates compared to DIM is that Connect can make partial updates: if only one from the package is updated then you only redownload that file, not the whole (sometimes huge) package. Not having to launch another program when you realize you forgot to download something you want to use can also be a time-saver.

As for installing on C: drive, as I said in a previous post, you can change where the Connect folder is. They definitely should have added a dialog to ask if you want to change the default directory before the first download though.

shadowhawk1

Leana said:

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Surely logged in and called home are synonyms?

I still don't understand WHY it was done this way, there is no real reason that studio NEEDS to be connected to the internet when DIM is fully capable of doing what connect does.

The only real advantage I see in the way Connect handles updates compared to DIM is that Connect can make partial updates: if only one from the package is updated then you only redownload that file, not the whole (sometimes huge) package. Not having to launch another program when you realize you forgot to download something you want to use can also be a time-saver.

As for installing on C: drive, as I said in a previous post, you can change where the Connect folder is. They definitely should have added a dialog to ask if you want to change the default directory before the first download though.

To be honest I would RATHER redownload the entire thing instead of piecemail. This is part of the reason I refuse to by encrypted content here or plan on using Windows 10. I like being able to control what the programs on my computers do.

mjc1016

shadowhawk1 said:

To be honest I would RATHER redownload the entire thing instead of piecemail. This is part of the reason I refuse to by encrypted content here or plan on using Windows 10. I like being able to control what the programs on my computers do.

So you'd like to download a 100 MB package for an update in a 50KB file?

THAT is the main reason Connect was put out there...to relieve the load on the Daz servers, by allowing only the files that needed to be updated to be downloaded instead requiring whole 100MB++ packages.  There would probably be fewer updates without it.

shadowhawk1

mjc1016 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

To be honest I would RATHER redownload the entire thing instead of piecemail. This is part of the reason I refuse to by encrypted content here or plan on using Windows 10. I like being able to control what the programs on my computers do.

So you'd like to download a 100 MB package for an update in a 50KB file?

THAT is the main reason Connect was put out there...to relieve the load on the Daz servers, by allowing only the files that needed to be updated to be downloaded instead requiring whole 100MB++ packages.  There would probably be fewer updates without it.

And by using connect you have NO physical backup to use in the event you have no access to the internet. I would rather download the 100mb file then allow studio to place a 50kb file in a place I don't want it. Why is that hard to understand?

People are different and as such like to do things their own way, I like one way you like another, what is the issue with being different?

mjc1016

shadowhawk1 said:

mjc1016 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

To be honest I would RATHER redownload the entire thing instead of piecemail. This is part of the reason I refuse to by encrypted content here or plan on using Windows 10. I like being able to control what the programs on my computers do.

So you'd like to download a 100 MB package for an update in a 50KB file?

THAT is the main reason Connect was put out there...to relieve the load on the Daz servers, by allowing only the files that needed to be updated to be downloaded instead requiring whole 100MB++ packages.  There would probably be fewer updates without it.

And by using connect you have NO physical backup to use in the event you have no access to the internet. I would rather download the 100mb file then allow studio to place a 50kb file in a place I don't want it. Why is that hard to understand?

People are different and as such like to do things their own way, I like one way you like another, what is the issue with being different?

Because, Studio WILL place the files where you want them...all that's needed is to spend some time setting up Studio BEFORE allowing it to start downloading.  Yes, I think that there should be a config step involved in the initial install process.  That alone would end a lot of these 'my content isn't where I want it' problems, but even without that, it is NOT an unsurmountable problem and is easily fixed with a few minutes spent configuring the damn thing...

shadowhawk1

mjc1016 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

mjc1016 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

To be honest I would RATHER redownload the entire thing instead of piecemail. This is part of the reason I refuse to by encrypted content here or plan on using Windows 10. I like being able to control what the programs on my computers do.

So you'd like to download a 100 MB package for an update in a 50KB file?

THAT is the main reason Connect was put out there...to relieve the load on the Daz servers, by allowing only the files that needed to be updated to be downloaded instead requiring whole 100MB++ packages.  There would probably be fewer updates without it.

And by using connect you have NO physical backup to use in the event you have no access to the internet. I would rather download the 100mb file then allow studio to place a 50kb file in a place I don't want it. Why is that hard to understand?

People are different and as such like to do things their own way, I like one way you like another, what is the issue with being different?

Because, Studio WILL place the files where you want them...all that's needed is to spend some time setting up Studio BEFORE allowing it to start downloading.  Yes, I think that there should be a config step involved in the initial install process.  That alone would end a lot of these 'my content isn't where I want it' problems, but even without that, it is NOT an unsurmountable problem and is easily fixed with a few minutes spent configuring the damn thing...

Then make the "damn" thing more intuitive! When you do the set up and tell it to install in D drive EVERYTHING should go to D drive, instead of the program goes to D drive and the connect content goes to C drive. I am not a novice at this, so how about not talking to people like they don't know anything

ANGELREAPER1972

shadowhawk1 does have a good point it should have automaticly install any and all content where you first decide to install studio and dim downloads btw been noticing that my studio contacts connect before I sign in some probably don't notice that tiny little pop up while studio loads and I'm not an anti connect and I've gotten some connect only items and even used it for others but I can understand why others don't want like it 

Richard Haseltine

If you tell Windows to use D: for your documents then DS will place the Connect data on D: - most applications will use the default Windows document path and add their own sub-folders. You must do this before isntalling DS (or other applications), though you can change the locations after the fact (as already explained, with respect to DS).

1. Open C:\Users\YOU
2. right-click on your Documents folder (or whichever folder you wish to use)
3. select Properties
4. go to the Location tab
5. click Move
6. select the new location (on D:, or whatever)
7. Windows will offer to move the existing files - say yes or no as desired

As for the benefits of Connect:

• Connect, as already noted, allows updating a single file isnteaed of a whole zip - that's very useful for peole with slow or metered connections.
• Because each product has its own, entirely self-contained, folder there's no need to track files that are isntalled by multiple products (soemthing that can be an issue for DIM, either removing a file that is still needed by another product or leaving a file that is no longer needed by any product).
• Connect removes the issue of synching paths between DIM and DS, which can be an issue (as a trawl through the forums will show) - of course Rob's scripts could have been made built-in features of DS, but it's still an additional complication for users to be aware of.
• Connect allows DS to prompt the user to install missing content that they own and which is needed in a scene as the scene is loading, no need to switch to DIM, install, and reload the file.

Theer may be other ways in which it helps (some users), butt hose are the oens that come immediately to mind.

ANGELREAPER1972

stuff moved over and connect option has been changed to new location think done right kinda lost my saved projects though did manage to get scenes back in my local user section in smarty but characters and some other things I created studio can't find yet found folders just not showing can click on them and they load in studio so resave? though would still have those blank icons need sleep nearly 5am

ANGELREAPER1972

well that was a bugger clicking on stuff been getting the message "that file doesn't exist" on a lot of stuff did the update meta and search drives thing but instead gotta right click unistall then reinstall for each product

kyoto kid

shadowhawk1 said:

kyoto kid said:

shadowhawk1 said:

I took the easy way out. When I installed studio I ignored the login request for connect and told it to never remind me again. I then went a step furter and blocked studio from having access to the internet. Of course everytime there is an update I have to redo that but it is worth the piece of mind knowing that connect will never rear its ugly head on my computer. 

...same here. For updates and betas I just download to my notebook via the DIM then transfer the file to the DIM folder on the workstation.

Call me paranoid, but I don't like programs calling "home" without asking. I don't purchase encrypted proiducts so connect is not needed wanted or allowed on my computer. 

...oh I would never use Connect as I also work in Carrara.  I also don't care for software that has to "phone home" which is why I don't deal with subscription or cloud based programmes.

The notebook I use for online access had difficulty supporting Daz4.0 when it came out 4 years ago, and certianly would not support the latest version as it is only a 32 bit system. I just have the DIM on it so I can more easily download new purchases, updates to the core programme, and betas which I then transfer via USB stick to the workstation.

kyoto kid

shadowhawk1 said:

RKane_1 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

kyoto kid said:

shadowhawk1 said:

I took the easy way out. When I installed studio I ignored the login request for connect and told it to never remind me again. I then went a step furter and blocked studio from having access to the internet. Of course everytime there is an update I have to redo that but it is worth the piece of mind knowing that connect will never rear its ugly head on my computer. 

...same here. For updates and betas I just download to my notebook via the DIM then transfer the file to the DIM folder on the workstation.

Call me paranoid, but I don't like programs calling "home" without asking. I don't purchase encrypted proiducts so connect is not needed wanted or allowed on my computer. 

If only I had had your foresight. *sigh*

Hind sight is always 20/20 my friend. You can still restrict Studio by going in and blocking its access to the internet. 

...my workstation is offline.

kyoto kid

shadowhawk1 said:

Leana said:

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Well yes, if you tell it to login to the DAZ servers it does indeed connect to them, that's basically the point....

And that is the problem many people are having with connect. Updates to Studio are done through downloads via DIM. Content won't install content where your main content is, that is unacceptable, every other program that I get updates or downloaded content like Steam or Star Wars The Old Republic install to MY selected locations instead of studio refusing its location and instead downloading to the C: drive. Why is it so hard to understand that people don't always instal to C: Drive?

...I'm the same way. 

I have a small boot/app drive. All my content libraries and runtimes are on a much larger secondary drive.  I also never use the Windows "Documents" folders for anything as I also like to categorise what I work on be it image files, text files, etc.

ANGELREAPER1972

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

well that was a bugger clicking on stuff been getting the message "that file doesn't exist" on a lot of stuff did the update meta and search drives thing but instead gotta right click unistall then reinstall for each product

which part/product do I need to locate to reinstall to get back pose controls only pose controls after doing above I have seem to be for head and feet

shadowhawk1

kyoto kid said:

shadowhawk1 said:

Leana said:

shadowhawk1 said:

fastbike1 said:

Only if you login to use it.  

shadowhawk1 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Connect won't see updates as available until DS is allowed to connect to the Daz servers.

So Studio DOES in fact call home. 

 

I don't, its locked down but it is nice to finally hear from the source that Studio does in fact call home if logged in. 

Well yes, if you tell it to login to the DAZ servers it does indeed connect to them, that's basically the point....

And that is the problem many people are having with connect. Updates to Studio are done through downloads via DIM. Content won't install content where your main content is, that is unacceptable, every other program that I get updates or downloaded content like Steam or Star Wars The Old Republic install to MY selected locations instead of studio refusing its location and instead downloading to the C: drive. Why is it so hard to understand that people don't always instal to C: Drive?

...I'm the same way. 

I have a small boot/app drive. All my content libraries and runtimes are on a much larger secondary drive.  I also never use the Windows "Documents" folders for anything as I also like to categorise what I work on be it image files, text files, etc.

I have 3 hard drives in my laptop, (ASUS G74x) It came with 2 slots and I replaced the disk drive with a third. I run Studio off of D drive and my content is on E drive which leaves my C drive open for the OS and the few things I want on C drive.

ANGELREAPER1972

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

well that was a bugger clicking on stuff been getting the message "that file doesn't exist" on a lot of stuff did the update meta and search drives thing but instead gotta right click unistall then reinstall for each product

which part/product do I need to locate to reinstall to get back pose controls only pose controls after doing above I have seem to be for head and feet

well don't know how or why but the pose controls for each body part reappeared thankfully but still getting on a lot of stuff can't locate file dim doesn't say anything about any files or updates needing installing so gotta go via connect meta update the install for each part sometimes also gotta select uninstall first, connect gives the orders seems

ANGELREAPER1972

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

well that was a bugger clicking on stuff been getting the message "that file doesn't exist" on a lot of stuff did the update meta and search drives thing but instead gotta right click unistall then reinstall for each product

which part/product do I need to locate to reinstall to get back pose controls only pose controls after doing above I have seem to be for head and feet

well don't know how or why but the pose controls for each body part reappeared thankfully but still getting on a lot of stuff can't locate file dim doesn't say anything about any files or updates needing installing so gotta go via connect meta update the install for each part sometimes also gotta select uninstall first, connect gives the orders seems

soooo I went and did the reset database and letting studio reinstall everything via 'connect' made sure I had connect to download install to my larger drive and so far so good everything appears to be installing correctly no missing files and no installing on my smaller main c drive thankfully my personal projects not showing up though nor my content in my content library section so so far only my smart content content can be seen would connect detect my other content and install it or is there something else I gotta do to make that stuff appear which includes a bit of content from other sites but also there is a lot of daz older stuff only ever appeared there

ANGELREAPER1972

decided to do a complete 100% uninstall/delete gonna take awhile to redownload over 200 GB was weird dim said everything was installed but connect was making me re download install everything and nothing was showing up in the content library also lost the option for the  shaping of the groin area had antomical installed but for personally created characters using g2/3/8 bases no, at least this time I know about setting where connect stuff is downloaded to just hope this time I only have to download install each product once

dragotx

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

decided to do a complete 100% uninstall/delete gonna take awhile to redownload over 200 GB was weird dim said everything was installed but connect was making me re download install everything and nothing was showing up in the content library also lost the option for the  shaping of the groin area had antomical installed but for personally created characters using g2/3/8 bases no, at least this time I know about setting where connect stuff is downloaded to just hope this time I only have to download install each product once

I just finished doing the same thing, when I reinstalled I used 2 different libraries, one for DIM and one for all of my manual installs from other vendors. It has made it so much easier to find everything, it was well worth the pain

ANGELREAPER1972

dragotx said:

ANGELREAPER1972 said:

decided to do a complete 100% uninstall/delete gonna take awhile to redownload over 200 GB was weird dim said everything was installed but connect was making me re download install everything and nothing was showing up in the content library also lost the option for the  shaping of the groin area had antomical installed but for personally created characters using g2/3/8 bases no, at least this time I know about setting where connect stuff is downloaded to just hope this time I only have to download install each product once

 

I just finished doing the same thing, when I reinstalled I used 2 different libraries, one for DIM and one for all of my manual installs from other vendors. It has made it so much easier to find everything, it was well worth the pain

so did you create a seperate folder elsewhere and did the search for daz content option? also what how did you set up the file structure? I've tried following some included read mes but often the content is all over the pace inside folders inside folders inside folders and the content sometimes hard to find if at all