OT I fried my GTX980

BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
edited June 2017 in The Commons

Upon returning to NCIX to pick up the old machine to give my wife, tech told me that the 980 was overheating and had artifacts. I explained to him that's why it was important to have a good colling system in the new machine. Its a EVGA (like the 1080ti) and comes with a 3 year manufacturer's warranty. The card was purchased in Sept 2015. I just have to contact them to have it replaced. Since my wife will only be doing basic web stuff he just activated the onboard intel card. I will most likely sell the 980..

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,846

    Good to know.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    I remember several discussions in regards to iray causing cards to run hot. Guess it's true..

  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,640

    MSI Afterburner will alow you to turn fans to 100% So before you start rendering Iray you need to fire up Afterburner and set fans to 100% then start render. Keep afterburner window open so you can keep track of card temps. If you live in hot climates you need to take side panel off pc and get a 110v fan that connects to wall socket and point it at your video card this should cool off your video card and prevent video card from burning up.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited June 2017

    Ok thanks

    Im thinking of asking you great folks 1st would $175.00 CAD seem reasonable? Plus shipping charges obviously. Of couse this would be once I get the replacement back..

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    MSI Afterburner will alow you to turn fans to 100% So before you start rendering Iray you need to fire up Afterburner and set fans to 100% then start render. Keep afterburner window open so you can keep track of card temps. If you live in hot climates you need to take side panel off pc and get a 110v fan that connects to wall socket and point it at your video card this should cool off your video card and prevent video card from burning up.

    Yep - I was going to advise Afterburner too ... I have it start when Windows starts. I use the progressive fan profiles so that the harder the GPU works, the harder the fans work.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    I just installed it how do you set up the prog profile?

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    I think I followed this ... 

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited June 2017

    K thanks

     

     

     

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  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,081

    The stock profile built into the Nvidiia driver will keep the cards temperature at or below the design operating temperature and will ramp up fans accordingly. If the fans can't hold the temperature below the desing temperature, the driver will start reducing frequency until the temperature drops below the max.

    The design is designed to run at the design operating temperature (typically 80C for the 900 series cards).

    Iray doesn't cause cards to run hotter than any application that is continously using the graphics card. However one's overall case  and cpu ventilation may be inadequate to dissipate all of the operating heat. Taht is a recipe for component failure.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    The new system is designed with what is suppose to be a superior cooling system let's hope..

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    When I first installed my 970 I noticed the temps reaching 82 deg which I thought was high. After installing Afterburner, I rarely see the temp for that or my newer 1070 go above 62 which I'm more comfortable with.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,307
    fastbike1 said:

    The stock profile built into the Nvidiia driver will keep the cards temperature at or below the design operating temperature and will ramp up fans accordingly. If the fans can't hold the temperature below the desing temperature, the driver will start reducing frequency until the temperature drops below the max.

    The design is designed to run at the design operating temperature (typically 80C for the 900 series cards).

    Iray doesn't cause cards to run hotter than any application that is continously using the graphics card. However one's overall case  and cpu ventilation may be inadequate to dissipate all of the operating heat. Taht is a recipe for component failure.

    Yes, if the case cooling is poor, even the best/fastest CPU/GPU coolers/fans are not worth much. My 1070 rarely gets over 62° C when rendering, even with a room temperature which is often close to 30° C.

  • SixDsSixDs Posts: 2,384

    "would $175.00 CAD seem reasonable?"

    Is it the vanilla GTX 980 or a GTX 980 Ti, Bob? It seems a fair price if the former, and if its the latter, heck, I'll buy it! laugh

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,939

    I fried my GTX-780 6GB just last week, or suddenly the machine rebooted and after that it can't boot window server process with the card installed. It booted could ssh to it, hang when starting graphics environment. An ASUS with 2 years warranty, and it's 2 years and 3 months old.

  • SixDsSixDs Posts: 2,384

    The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,307
    SixDs said:

    The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

    I don't think that analogy quite holds when it comes to electronics. It's not so much about how fast or how long time a CPU/GPU is running, but about how well it's cooled, that determines its lifetime. Technically it will perform just as well at a temperature of 30° C as at a temperature of 95° C, but other things being equal its lifetime will probably be a good deal shorter at a constant temperature of 95° C than at a constant temperature of 30° C.

    It was actually said that the old C64 computers would tend to last longer if they were turned on all the time. The chips would get very hot, but the constant expansion/contraction of the chip cores because of the huge temperature shifts that occured whenever they were turned on and off were apparently more damaging than a constant high temperature. Just another thing to consider.

     

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766
    edited June 2017

    In Afterburner, any system variable that it monitors can be placed in your system tray.
    If you look at the included screenshot, you can see what needs to be set in Afterburner. 
    Settings -> Monitorint Tab -> Select the "Graph" that you would like to show -> at the botom set the "Show in tray icon" checkbox -> Click on the little color box to set a color for the text.

    I have mine monitoring the GPU temp (Green), CPU temp (Cyan), and GPU Memory usage (Magenta).

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  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    I doubt you are going to get many buyers for a card that you trashed. I won't sell any of my used CPUs or graphics cards because the sorts of workloads we but our gear under is extreme use. If you do sell it let the buyer know up front you trashed it hard.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,193
    Jim said:

    I doubt you are going to get many buyers for a card that you trashed. I won't sell any of my used CPUs or graphics cards because the sorts of workloads we but our gear under is extreme use. If you do sell it let the buyer know up front you trashed it hard.

    He said it's going to be replaced under warranty. What he's selling is a brand new card.

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    Oh, yes. Not sure how I missed that... My apologies.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    Exacly I will post when I get the new card to see if there is any takers. without any tweaking my new 1080ti beast runs at 64 degrees

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766

    Intersting thing to keep in mind if they are no longer producing that card.  You may get sent a equivilent curent generation card as a replacement.  Don't be suprised if a GTX 1070 shows up on your doostep as a replacement.  (keep in mind that the GTX 1070 stomps all over the GTX 980 in gaming benchmarks)  So, this could be a blessing in disguise.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    That would be something or I may get a refurb

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited June 2017
    Bobvan said:

    I remember several discussions in regards to iray causing cards to run hot. Guess it's true..

    They are consumer cards; IRAY (and other) rendering is a whole different level of use to even intensive 3D gaming. It is going to wear out cards faster if they get a lot of use.

    I don't buy second hand cards as there is no way of knowing what use they have had.

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    Makes sense I ran the system day & night at times

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited June 2017

    They are sending me a replacement I dont have  a need for it hoping it would a better card oh well. It violates the rules to offer it I guess on CL it goes..

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    Taoz said:
    SixDs said:

    The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

    I don't think that analogy quite holds when it comes to electronics. It's not so much about how fast or how long time a CPU/GPU is running, but about how well it's cooled, that determines its lifetime. Technically it will perform just as well at a temperature of 30° C as at a temperature of 95° C, but other things being equal its lifetime will probably be a good deal shorter at a constant temperature of 95° C than at a constant temperature of 30° C.

    It was actually said that the old C64 computers would tend to last longer if they were turned on all the time. The chips would get very hot, but the constant expansion/contraction of the chip cores because of the huge temperature shifts that occured whenever they were turned on and off were apparently more damaging than a constant high temperature. Just another thing to consider.

     

    ...it does with regards to overclocking as you are pushing that component beyond it's normal operating envelope. 

    Kind of like injecting Nitrous into an engine to get that acceleration boost off the line, Puts a lot of excess strain and wear on the parts.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    On the new system as well I get 3 years on the 1080ti gygabyte and my asus MB

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    Bobvan said:

    They are sending me a replacement I dont have  a need for it hoping it would a better card oh well. It violates the rules to offer it I guess on CL it goes..

    ...If it is a 1070. PM me and let me know what your asking price .  Actually looking at a 1080 Ti myself but at the right price 8 GB would still be far better than the 1 which I have now.. Would get me out of the slow lane for a good portion of my work.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited June 2017

    No its a 980 I already know will be picking it up tomorrow they tried delivering but I was out. I just wanna sell it o buy G8 pro bundle & morphs

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