Just got my new i7-6950X (10-core CPU) 1080ti

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017
    Awesomefb said:

    Awesome ! wishing you many hours of enjoyment creating 3D on new system. 

    Thanks man I get clients from time to time. Someone who would of waited prolly till thursday will most likely have it later. I got used to long times using Reality Lux prior to iray but I have to admit its the bomb!

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,182
    Bobvan said:

    I did did not see a huge increase and ran alot hotter so I ticked it to GPU only.

    Im getting 20 minutes for indoor scenes compared to hours before..

    Fantastic! Thanks for sharing your experience and specs with us.

  • AJ2112AJ2112 Posts: 1,417
    Bobvan said:
    Awesomefb said:

    Awesome ! wishing you many hours of enjoyment creating 3D on new system. 

    Thanks man I get clients from time to time. Someone who would of waited prolly till thursday will most likely have it later. I got used to long times using Reality Lux prior to iray but I have to admit its the bomb!

    Great news, all is working to your advantage.  I'm sure you'll have many satisfied clients.  I really enjoyed using Reality lux, for simplistic interface, Iray much more challenging, but well worth the effort.  Have fun computing/rendering yes

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

    For sure took me longer to get desirable results with iray then it did lux. I am used to it now and like the control with skin shaders. Reality had so many issues. I dont miss having to do all the workarounds..

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  • HorusRaHorusRa Posts: 1,664
    edited March 2019

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

    Yeah with the chip its nuts I rendered 2 projects over the weekend that would have taken a week to a week and half. Pricey system but worth every cent. Will make alot of it back in the long run..

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  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    Sweet ride! I'm jelous, man. I've been thinking of even adding a 1060, though I haven't looked at benchmarks for this new line of cards. I'd also love to get one of the beefier intel CPUs for when I do heavy multi core CPU work. Enjoy your great power.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    Jim said:

    Sweet ride! I'm jelous, man. I've been thinking of even adding a 1060, though I haven't looked at benchmarks for this new line of cards. I'd also love to get one of the beefier intel CPUs for when I do heavy multi core CPU work. Enjoy your great power.

    Thanks man !

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    edited May 2017
    Bobvan said:

    Edit went by it is 32G if you look at the end on the invoice it's 2X 16 G 4X 8 can be expanded to 64 like I had requested.. I am going to look into the card

    ...atill does not allow for quad channel memory boost as you would need 4 sticks of  8 GB for that to kick in RAM Channels are based on the number of memory sticks, not memory capacity. 

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    edited May 2017
    Bobvan said:

    It has win 10.. was not planning on changing I always liked it on my 2 machines and runs better then my old 7 laptop..

    ...W10 home is a PITA when it comes to updating and GPU memory reserving.  Again under W10 that 1080 TI will only allow you to use about 8.6 GB for rendering because of the VRAM the OS reserves,  Get an OEM of W7 Pro as W7 has almost  a negligible footprint on a GPU card's VRAM.  If you have scenes that exceed the available VRAM, Iray will dump to slower CPU mode and all those CUDA cores wil be worthless.

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  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766
    edited May 2017
    Jim said:

    Sweet ride! I'm jelous, man. I've been thinking of even adding a 1060, though I haven't looked at benchmarks for this new line of cards. I'd also love to get one of the beefier intel CPUs for when I do heavy multi core CPU work. Enjoy your great power.

    ******EDIT****** Stupid naming scheme for Titan cards corrected

    If your budget allows for a GTX 1060 6GB (not the 3GB one) get one!
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    Unless you already have a GTX 980ti 6GB card or GTX Titan X (Maxwell based).  Any card lower than that you will see a performance increase going up to a 1060 6GB.
    In gaming benchmarks the GTX 1060 6GB is neck and neck with the GTX 980, and the GTX 1070 beats everything in the GTX 900 series.  Pascal is a big jump tech and perfomance wise from the Maxwell architecture.

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  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    I have a couple of GTX 780ti, which are doing their job pretty well (outbenching the 980 in Octane). I'm pretty careful with my memmory usage, so that hasn't been an issue, but I won't lie, the 1060s with 6gb RAM are pretty tasty looking.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017
    kyoto kid said:
    Bobvan said:

    Edit went by it is 32G if you look at the end on the invoice it's 2X 16 G 4X 8 can be expanded to 64 like I had requested.. I am going to look into the card

    ...atill does not allow for quad channel memory boost as you would need 4 sticks of  8 GB for that to kick in RAM Channels are based on the number of memory sticks, not memory capacity. 

    I have 4X 8 G sticks

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

     Been using it since Saturday. I rarely need over 30 minutes for a render anymore.  Totally worth it if one has the means..

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,182
    Put a good UPS on that rig. You don't it want to get fried by a power glitch.
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    Bobvan said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Bobvan said:

    Edit went by it is 32G if you look at the end on the invoice it's 2X 16 G 4X 8 can be expanded to 64 like I had requested.. I am going to look into the card

    ...atill does not allow for quad channel memory boost as you would need 4 sticks of  8 GB for that to kick in RAM Channels are based on the number of memory sticks, not memory capacity. 

    I have 4X 8 G sticks.

    ...ah, looked at the attached spec sheet again and noticed in the last column a quantity of two 2 x 8 GB kits.  Did that cost less than a single 4 x 8 GB kit?

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

    Double of course..The whole rig was quite a bit but as mentioned sold high end drums and some commish projects just a grand out of pocket so it was a no brainer..

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847

    ...not bad for a getting the biggest i7 available.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

    Not bad at all. For the 1st time since using lux. I don't have the machine running day and night. Gotta give props to the previous machine for running for 4 years and this one has a much better heatsink. To think I used to do this on crappy HP laptops in the early days, melted them down having to have them repaired which was covered but still..  I have my ROG Asus heavy 24G 980M laptop but just use it for building sets at work breaks and media player at home.. I am on the mend from my Tinnitus but hope it settles at some point. Sleep is rare these days..

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  • Bobvan said:

    Ok I am trying combo rendering right now. I was buying it for about $1500 less then saw the post here on the chip. Since they had not assembled it yet. I was able to swap the chip. Its a huge jump in times in any case..

    Hey I remember your post in my thread about the chip. :) Glad you're happy with it. For my next build, I have my sights set on this chip as well, especially since I do a lot of rendering in CPU-only softwares.

    Would you mind posting your render times from Sickleyield's benchmark thread?

    -P

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

    How do I benchmark ?? All I know is I now rarely need more then 1/2 hour... It's funny I caught your post just as I was having it built and was able to swap it since they had not put it together yet..

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  • If you abandon Windows 10 and DirectX 12 for Windows 8 or Windows you will be abandoning the speed improvements of much improved parallelization of computing made available in Windows 10. You also are increasing the chances of bluescreening BSOD with Windows 7 / Windows 8 because of graphics driver problems. The decrease in video RAM in a minor impact that will effect less than 5% of the renders you'd ever consider doing and even for those it's an easy work around for you to simply do compositing.

    You also have to consider that Microsoft decided out of respect to create patches for decade / decade and one half old operating system Windows XP only because of the recent NSA hacking bug tools being used to comit crimes so what sort of bug and enhancement support would you expect from Microsoft going forward for Windows 7 and Windows 8?

    Really, choosing Windows 7 or Windows 8 instead of Windows 10 with the latest hardware tech is like punishing yourself.

    Is Windows 10 really that much more stable and effecient? (I'm honestly asking, as I have not researched the matter). I have always assumed that newer OS tends to be more buggy, until the kinks are ironed out. Wondering if this is the case yet. 

    -P

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    Bobvan said:

    How do I benchmark ?? All I know is I now rarely need more then 1/2 hour... It's funny I caught your post just as I was having it built and was able to swap it since they had not put it together yet..

    Go to this thread, and download the sample scene. Load it in Daz and let it render out (I think it supposed to stop at 5,000 samples or 95% convergence...can't remember exactly). Let us know how long it takes.

    -P

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017

    I will do both GPU and GPU CPU the ones I posted in the iray thread between 20 to 30 minutes there is slight quality degeradation due to the PNG to JPEG conversion to upload it

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  • AJ2112AJ2112 Posts: 1,417

    Bob, what type of drums were you jammin on ?  I'm a drummer to, have a 9 piece Tama granstar kit and Roland TD-25 E kit.  I'll be off computer, installing new Gtx 1080, will be back this evening. 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited May 2017
    kyoto kid said:
    Bobvan said:

    It has win 10.. was not planning on changing I always liked it on my 2 machines and runs better then my old 7 laptop..

    ...W10 home is a PITA when it comes to updating and GPU memory reserving.  Again under W10 that 1080 TI will only allow you to use about 8.6 GB for rendering because of the VRAM the OS reserves,  Get an OEM of W7 Pro as W7 has almost  a negligible footprint on a GPU card's VRAM.  If you have scenes that exceed the available VRAM, Iray will dump to slower CPU mode and all those CUDA cores wil be worthless.

    I've posted in other threads that i don't usually have RAM reserved on the 980ti that isn't used for video but only rendering.

    Well, 3MB is reserved, which isn't really an issue.

    I use W10 pro.

    Opening up Studio (4.9.3.166 beta) ups it from 3MB to 50ish MB

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2017
    Awesomefb said:

    Bob, what type of drums were you jammin on ?  I'm a drummer to, have a 9 piece Tama granstar kit and Roland TD-25 E kit.  I'll be off computer, installing new Gtx 1080, will be back this evening. 

    Im in my 50's now I used to do it more pro years ago sold DW collector's kit. I also have a Roland TD 50 depending on how the Tinnitus resolves itself of not it may go too, will see.. Barely slept in the past month im suprised I can still function.. I was not really using the A kit that much will be using the machine alot more..

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  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    If you abandon Windows 10 and DirectX 12 for Windows 8 or Windows you will be abandoning the speed improvements of much improved parallelization of computing made available in Windows 10. You also are increasing the chances of bluescreening BSOD with Windows 7 / Windows 8 because of graphics driver problems. The decrease in video RAM in a minor impact that will effect less than 5% of the renders you'd ever consider doing and even for those it's an easy work around for you to simply do compositing.

    You also have to consider that Microsoft decided out of respect to create patches for decade / decade and one half old operating system Windows XP only because of the recent NSA hacking bug tools being used to comit crimes so what sort of bug and enhancement support would you expect from Microsoft going forward for Windows 7 and Windows 8?

    Really, choosing Windows 7 or Windows 8 instead of Windows 10 with the latest hardware tech is like punishing yourself.

    Is Windows 10 really that much more stable and effecient? (I'm honestly asking, as I have not researched the matter). I have always assumed that newer OS tends to be more buggy, until the kinks are ironed out. Wondering if this is the case yet. 

    -P

    Dirext x is mostly for games. Windows 10 has a long way to go before it proves it is worth putting on my work rig.
  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    I been using it on my 2 other machines prior so Im used to it

  • Takeo.KenseiTakeo.Kensei Posts: 1,303

     

    If you abandon Windows 10 and DirectX 12 for Windows 8 or Windows you will be abandoning the speed improvements of much improved parallelization of computing made available in Windows 10.

    I don't know where you have your infos (source ?) but that is a false statement. Till now Windows 7 had better performance than Windows 10 in computing. For Iray Windows 10 may have recently catch up but that's all http://blog.irayrender.com/post/157353002021/maxwell-gpuswindows-10-performance-improvement

    I believe you are talking about a feature for DirectX 12 which is not usefull for Rendering Tasks

    You also are increasing the chances of bluescreening BSOD with Windows 7 / Windows 8 because of graphics driver problems.

    I think you didn't understand the other thread discussion. Windows 7 is not more prone to BSOD than Windows 10. And it's been a long time I didn't see one. BSOD came from bad drivers for ANY hardware (not just GFX card) in the WinXP era. Starting from Windows 7, Microsoft forced driver signing to the manufacturers and that's been the end of it

    The decrease in video RAM in a minor impact that will effect less than 5% of the renders you'd ever consider doing and even for those it's an easy work around for you to simply do compositing.

    You don't see the real problem. Buying a Video Card with 11 GB and ending up with 8.5 means you lost a few thousand dollars just because of the OS. At the current Hardware state, 8 or 11 GB for rendering is really small. That's why CPU rendering is still used in motion film. I don't think you can tell Pixar to go compositing with their assets. Memory is the biggest limiting factor and ending up with as much memory as the previous generation Hardware with your shiny new toy is at best frustrating.

    I can only advise a dual (triple) boot (I have a linux). A new disk is not expensive

    You also have to consider that Microsoft decided out of respect to create patches for decade / decade and one half old operating system Windows XP only because of the recent NSA hacking bug tools being used to comit crimes so what sort of bug and enhancement support would you expect from Microsoft going forward for Windows 7 and Windows 8?

    I'd wait for new hardware support (USB 3.1, Thunderbolt, etc). I can understand MS's position : supporting only one OS cost less money. But with their move, Hardware manufacturers are also stopping the support of new Hardware (ex : Ryzen even if it runs better on W7 than with Windows 10 without support)

    Really, choosing Windows 7 or Windows 8 instead of Windows 10 with the latest hardware tech is like punishing yourself.

    I'd rather say that Windows 10 is the punishment if you use GPU compute applications. For gaming, no problem, it will certainly be the good OS...in the future https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-ryzen-7-performance-windows-7-vs-windows-10.1926898/

     

     

    nicstt said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Bobvan said:

    It has win 10.. was not planning on changing I always liked it on my 2 machines and runs better then my old 7 laptop..

    ...W10 home is a PITA when it comes to updating and GPU memory reserving.  Again under W10 that 1080 TI will only allow you to use about 8.6 GB for rendering because of the VRAM the OS reserves,  Get an OEM of W7 Pro as W7 has almost  a negligible footprint on a GPU card's VRAM.  If you have scenes that exceed the available VRAM, Iray will dump to slower CPU mode and all those CUDA cores wil be worthless.

    I've posted in other threads that i don't usually have RAM reserved on the 980ti that isn't used for video but only rendering.

    Well, 3MB is reserved, which isn't really an issue.

    I use W10 pro.

    Opening up Studio (4.9.3.166 beta) ups it from 3MB to 50ish MB

    That's interresting. I guess you have an other GFX card used for the display. Can you detail your hardware and software setup as well as the driver versions used?

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