Hercules Issues-Solved

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Well, if female warriors can find lycra in the wilds and fight effectively in high heels...

     

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,085
    edited May 2017

    Well, if female warriors can find lycra in the wilds and fight effectively in high heels.

    What? You've never heard of Lycra beetle webs? surprise

    And you don't want to get in the path of a spurned female in high heels!no

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,774
    edited May 2017
    DSDT said:

    Why would a barbarian even get gynecomastia? It just looks like an over the hill juicehead who's endocrine sytem is wrecked. Guaranteed barbarians did not have that problem on a hunter gatherer organic diet and no roids.

    I think that it is a combination of the effect of pectoral growth causing the nipples to point down and maybe a little steriod effect: http://www.pwnfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gyno-and-steroids.jpg  

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  • FrankTheTankFrankTheTank Posts: 1,481
    nemesis10 said:
    DSDT said:

    Why would a barbarian even get gynecomastia? It just looks like an over the hill juicehead who's endocrine sytem is wrecked. Guaranteed barbarians did not have that problem on a hunter gatherer organic diet and no roids.

    I think that it is a combination of the effect of pectoral growth causing the nipples to point down and maybe a little steriod effect: http://www.pwnfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gyno-and-steroids.jpg  

     

    Yeah, I know, that was my point. I know plenty of juiceheads that have that. It doesn't make sense to put that morph on a barbarian.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited May 2017

    Well, he's hercules, and hercules is a demi god. He's rather larger than life. If you look at the non-disneyfied versions of him, he's a rather ripped large man of middle-age with a beard. Can't post any issues but classic statues of him necause those greeks like their nudes.... But some images do have some fairly  substantial nipples.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722
    edited May 2017

    There are people naturally hugely muscular but they are mostly artificial now but back in the days of manual labour it was quite common. My mom said that when she was a girl is was almost unheard of to see a fat man and pretty uncommon to see a fat woman (even though they are designed to carry more fat to nourish fetus(es) and infant(s)). 

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  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,077

    Oh my goodness. I've been away for awhile, and return to see Hercules has problems with his nipples. What is the world coming to?!
    laugh

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited May 2017

    LOL, I think Hercules is the only character who DOESN'T have an issue with his nipples. devil

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  • gerterasmusgerterasmus Posts: 287
    Decided to keep him, for now. Find him useful for moving a character's nipples down a bit. Let's face it, steroids or not, not all men's nipples are front and centre with perfectly round areola.
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I haven't gotten any responses to my requests for fixes for this product. It would be nice if the store could provide an update. Last I heard was my tickets were assigned.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    This thread might hold the record for the most times the word "nipples" was used. LOL

  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924

    A fix for these issues is being worked on and will be out as an update ASAP.  I apologize for this.

  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    edited May 2017
    There is also an expectation here too that customer fix or figure out why stuff doesn't work. I don't mind helping when I can, but I don't think its the customers job to analyze and find fixes for products beyond a certain point.

    I don't believe there is an expectation that we will fix errors for ourselves - however, fixing errors takes time (probably less if someone can figure out the cause and add it to the report) so where workarounds can be figured out they get posted, to enable people to use the product while the fix is being implemented and tested.

    Exactly, the more information you can give and put on a ticket, the quicker it can be fixed and resolved. JCM errors are can be difficult to track down because sometimes they won't be caught until it conflicts with another product... and sometimes the conflict comes from something having a similar name. 

    I'm having the same results as Male-M3dia.  I've checked multipliers and they are all correct.  At this point I need to rely on DAZ to solve the JCMs issues as everything checks correctly and there is no reason morphs named with a unique name would be activated for some people and not others.  I have already notified DAZ and I'm sure we will find a solution but errors that not everyone gets are the most difficult to track down.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    Maybe the logs from someone with the problem would help. 

  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924

    Maybe the logs from someone with the problem would help. 

    Yes, logs are very useful when reporting these problems.  I have attached a link to this thread in my e-mails.

     

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,077

    I have way too much free time on my hands. Sometimes I watch wrestling, and see guys with no shirts. I think nipples on men are rather silly?!

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    They're as entertaining as nipples on women...

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,085

    I have way too much free time on my hands. Sometimes I watch wrestling, and see guys with no shirts. I think nipples on men are rather silly?!

     

    Not if they're wired in properly! devil  Yee Ha!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    they burn like heck from saltwater if you are in the ocean laying on a raft and bodysurfing into shore after a while too

  • KomodoVRKomodoVR Posts: 115
    SimonWM said:

    Yes, logs are very useful when reporting these problems.  I have attached a link to this thread in my e-mails.

     

    Howdy SimonWM! Attached is a screenshot of several G3M characters loaded with the same "pose preset" applied to each. Also attached are two log files that were created from scratch. The first log file contains the process used to create the attached screenshot with Hercules installed. The second log file contains a repetition of the process but without Hercules installed. (I see a lot of warnings in the log files but it's gibberish to me.) Hopefully this is enough to help understand the problem if you aren't able to reproduce it for yourself.

     

    In general it seems that the Carson character is the one that's most adversely affected whereas other characters are affected but to a lesser extent.

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,774

    I got a message to reinstall and the problem seems to have gone away for me.

  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    edited May 2017
    pmonsta said:
    SimonWM said:

    Yes, logs are very useful when reporting these problems.  I have attached a link to this thread in my e-mails.

     

    Howdy SimonWM! Attached is a screenshot of several G3M characters loaded with the same "pose preset" applied to each. Also attached are two log files that were created from scratch. The first log file contains the process used to create the attached screenshot with Hercules installed. The second log file contains a repetition of the process but without Hercules installed. (I see a lot of warnings in the log files but it's gibberish to me.) Hopefully this is enough to help understand the problem if you aren't able to reproduce it for yourself.

     

    In general it seems that the Carson character is the one that's most adversely affected whereas other characters are affected but to a lesser extent.

    Thanks you.  This is extremely useful.  I have saved your information and sent it directly to my contacts at DAZ and awaiting a response from them.  Like I posted before.  Everything in my end is wired correctly as far as I can tell.  There are errors for morphs for several characters in your log that I don't own.  I have been told before that some log errors can be ignored as they don't cause any issues.  DAZ is better suited than me to pinpoint which ones are harmless and which ones aren't and why exactly this issue happens to some customers and not others and come up with a solution we can implement.  

    By the way, love your Hercules detective image,  gave me a chuckle at a rather stressful time.

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  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    nemesis10 said:

    I got a message to reinstall and the problem seems to have gone away for me.

    This is very hopeful.  Did the message come directly from DAZ?

     

  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    edited May 2017

    Does anyone have Hercules? If you have anatomical elements applied and put on the beard does it make his elements turn white like the geoshell is applying down there? oops, looks like the included hair does that too. Bummer... Ticket time.

    I posted the solution for the OP problem with the gens in another thread and had already posted it in my facebook page but I want to post it in here too.  I have told DAZ to add it to the product's readme.

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    Hercules 7 support question:
    When you have anatomical elements applied to Hercules HD, and you put on either the hair or the beard, his Anatomical Elements turn white.

    Solution:The hair and beard are Geometry Shell based. Geometry shells automatically will create a layer over any grafted geometry you add to the scene. The Anatomical Elements being a graft produce this layer. The solution is going into the Parameters tab under Shell/Visibility and turning off G3MGenitalia_Genitalia on each one. This solves the problem.

    When using the hair and beard on the male centaur you need to do the same but you will hide G3MCentaur_1Coat and G3MCentaur_1Hoof to get rid of the shell around the horse’s body.

     

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  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    edited May 2017

    I'm in contact with DAZ and we are trying to issue an update that will solve the morph problems some are having.  There is a free upgrade ready to go out I had submitted to DAZ a week ago that further improves Hercules realistic flexions in his biceps, back and hamstrings when posed that is unrelated to the morph issues. I wasn't aware of the morph issues at the time.  I'm trying to get the morph issues solved as part of that first scheduled update.

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,774
    nemesis10 said:

    I got a message to reinstall and the problem seems to have gone away for me.

    Hi I spoke too soon.  The comment was from Daz technical support in reply to a ticket that predates this thread.  Unfortunately, the problem still remains but now is intermitent for me.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Reinstalling never solved my issue with Hercules shape. 

  • JackFosterJackFoster Posts: 143
    edited May 2017

    Hmm... I assumed everyone was having the same problem, but apparently not.

    When I first installed the product, none of the JCMs were being multiplied with the Hercules Body morph, and were thus activating for every G3M figure. After adding multiply information in the Properties Hierarchy, the problem went away.

    If some people are having it and some aren't, could there be a problem with Daz's installer? Come to think of it, aren't there similar issues with several newly released figures and JCMs?

    Edit: This is a shot in the dark, but could this (screenshot) have something to do with it? What do you have your JCM multiply information saving with, Simon?

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  • JackFosterJackFoster Posts: 143

    Just downloaded the new update. All the JCMs seem to be working perfectly out of the box.

  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    edited May 2017

     

    Just downloaded the new update. All the JCMs seem to be working perfectly out of the box.

    Thanks for the good news Jack.  All the feedback I've had from DAZ QA is positive.  One person tells me the update that is out fixes it and the other person is unable to replicate the unusual behavior described here and says everything works perfect for him.  Hopefully the rest of the people reporting the problem in this thread will report back with good news too.

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