Epsilon Bodysuit for Genesis 3 Female(s): Silly Boots

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,924

    Well, at least in space the weight of her body on her heels wont be a problem! Am I right???

    Only in a weightless environment... and in a weightless environment, everyone is bascially the same height since you "hang" off objects rather than stand on the floor.       

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Well, at least in space the weight of her body on her heels wont be a problem! Am I right???

    Only in a weightless environment... and in a weightless environment, everyone is bascially the same height since you "hang" off objects rather than stand on the floor.       

    Thus the point of the joke...

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
    edited September 2016

    Gotta say it does get annoying to see outfits that are otherwise practical ruined by putting ridiculously high heels on them. What's sad is how it happens in every genre even when it makes even less sense than normal fashions. I'm sorry but nobody in a post apocalypse is going to wander the wasteland in six inch stilleto heels. It's hard enough walking in our normal world with those.

    Only if the post apocalypse is populated with cosplayers.

    One would think that since the majority of well-known cosplayers are female they would be at the forefront of squashing this ridiculous trend, but they tend to be the ones perpetuating it the most.

    Btw to give the PA some credit,  the El Commandante for Gen 3 female is very nice, with "practical boots" to go along with it.  I say buy that, and send a message that it's time to retire the ridiculous footwear and boob armor.  Daz artists are starting to grow up.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,856



    One would think that since the majority of well-known cosplayers are female they would be at the forefront of squashing this ridiculous trend, but they tend to be the ones perpetuating it the most.

     

    Why would they want to, would probably hurt their popularity and they'd lose followers, etc. I know I prefer my cosplay females in heels (flats only if the original outfit calls for it).

    It's funny, my GF and I have gotten back into playing Sims 4 and in my town, all the female characters I have created are wearing heels, LOL.

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    Why would they want to, would probably hurt their popularity and they'd lose followers, etc. I know I prefer my cosplay females in heels (flats only if the original outfit calls for it).

    It's funny, my GF and I have gotten back into playing Sims 4 and in my town, all the female characters I have created are wearing heels, LOL.

    That's just it.  You'll see these exact replica's of a costume from a film, game or comic down the to the buttons and stitching, and then they'll add these ridiculous high heels that completely destroys the illusion.  There is a reason that even though some cosplay rivals Hollywood, the term "something looks like cosplay" has this stigma attached to it.

  • Gotta say it does get annoying to see outfits that are otherwise practical ruined by putting ridiculously high heels on them. What's sad is how it happens in every genre even when it makes even less sense than normal fashions. I'm sorry but nobody in a post apocalypse is going to wander the wasteland in six inch stilleto heels. It's hard enough walking in our normal world with those.

    Only if the post apocalypse is populated with cosplayers.

    One would think that since the majority of well-known cosplayers are female they would be at the forefront of squashing this ridiculous trend, but they tend to be the ones perpetuating it the most.

    Btw to give the PA some credit,  the El Commandante for Gen 3 female is very nice, with "practical boots" to go along with it.  I say buy that, and send a message that it's time to retire the ridiculous footwear and boob armor.  Daz artists are starting to grow up.

    I saw that and was tempted, but it didn't really fit my needs the way a space suit does

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Well, at least in space the weight of her body on her heels wont be a problem! Am I right???

    Kidding aside, its totally ridiculous. This twisted obsession for heels to go with everything just needs to stop. Please. Its in so many pose packs, too. Its freakin' impossible to find "normal" people poses around here sometimes. I am not against heels competely, they have their place. But that place is not everywhere.

    And its funny, because there is a discussion in another thread talking about that "Poser stigma." Stuff like this...isn't helping.

    well... maybe, considering that weightlessness (what you're alluding to?) has a detrimental affect on bones, they loose mass/strength - something at any rate that is not good.

    Well, at least in space the weight of her body on her heels wont be a problem! Am I right???

    Kidding aside, its totally ridiculous. This twisted obsession for heels to go with everything just needs to stop. Please. Its in so many pose packs, too. Its freakin' impossible to find "normal" people poses around here sometimes. I am not against heels competely, they have their place. But that place is not everywhere.

    And its funny, because there is a discussion in another thread talking about that "Poser stigma." Stuff like this...isn't helping.

    PAs produce what sells (understandable); heels sell, perhaps in part because of that Poser stigma. Whilst changeing what sold might in the long term be beneficial, folks have to eat in the short term. I never buy outfits that I feel shouldn't have heels - no matter how good, or how much I need them - I refuse to play a small part in reinforcing what everyone knows is true (even if it may not be).

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
    edited September 2016

    I'd really like to know exactly how well heels do sell, considering there are so many of them, and that people increasingly complain about them.   Everybody simply assumes they sell  better.  Are PA's producing what sells, or what they thinks sells?  I mean how well does Norse for Gen3 female, which still has the high skimp factor going for it, but as least has sensible footwear that can be used in other situations sell against something with footwear that only appeals to the fetish crowd?  Also how many people are buying costumes because other than the stupid heels the rest of the costume is actually well done?  I know I switch out the footwear on costumes all the time.

    And how much more work is there in giving buyers the option, and thus appealing to both crowds?   Sort of like how dubbed and subbed Dvds ended that debate when both factions  could have what they wanted in the same package and only have to pay for it once.  Seems like the smart business move to make from my standpoint.



     

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  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391

    Just so you guys know that some PAs do listen... this type of thread (in the past) is exactly why I did not make the boots on Helix 5 high heeled.  I went for treads, instead.  And if you put G3F in a high heel pose, you can still get the same sexy effect without actually putting your character in high heels.  There will be another product by me coming out soon enough, and it also does not have high heels for the same reason.  Your feedback is taken in by some PAs and we do what we can with it.

  • Slosh said:

    Just so you guys know that some PAs do listen... this type of thread (in the past) is exactly why I did not make the boots on Helix 5 high heeled.  I went for treads, instead.  And if you put G3F in a high heel pose, you can still get the same sexy effect without actually putting your character in high heels.  There will be another product by me coming out soon enough, and it also does not have high heels for the same reason.  Your feedback is taken in by some PAs and we do what we can with it.

    And that's why I didn't hesitate to buy Helix 5 when it came out.  It's a great piece of Sci-fi costuming to looks feasible and is still sexy.  To be fair lots of PA's listen.  There is an aviators costume for G3 now that is completely practical.  We tend to only notice when someone goes off the rails and marrs an otherwise very good bit of clothes design with something that seems so out of place.  Hopefully the people who don't like something are supporting PAs that offer an alternative.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,856
    Slosh said:

    Just so you guys know that some PAs do listen... this type of thread (in the past) is exactly why I did not make the boots on Helix 5 high heeled.  I went for treads, instead.  And if you put G3F in a high heel pose, you can still get the same sexy effect without actually putting your character in high heels.  There will be another product by me coming out soon enough, and it also does not have high heels for the same reason.  Your feedback is taken in by some PAs and we do what we can with it.

    In that case the main reasons I didn't get the helix5 outfit is because of the flats and the open top which kinda disobeys the laws of physics. A strap under the breasts would have done a lot for some believability.

  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391

    lol... it is a stylistic outfit, never intended to be realistic... Although, the top is part of a unitard sort of thing, which is tight and stretchy, and would therefore  probably hold things in to a degree.  But thanks for telling me why you didn't like the outfit.  Maybe next time I will put high heels on and a big strap under the chest.  That sounds pretty. (I hope you can tell I'm just teasing)

  • While I am a huge advocate for more heels, I have to admit, the ones on the suit in mention from the OP, do look off with this spacesuit.

    You have enough heels already, let us flat footed people have our say/time in the limelight. ;p

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,856

    While I am a huge advocate for more heels, I have to admit, the ones on the suit in mention from the OP, do look off with this spacesuit.

    You have enough heels already, let us flat footed people have our say/time in the limelight. ;p

    Funny thing is, I have no problems with options, I want everyone to have what they want. it's just you don't see users that prefer heels complaining about flats that often as you see users complaining about heels, so i just had to make sure I spoke out for the heel fans so that the complaining wasn't all one sided, you know, for the vendors benefit, LOL.

    There are soooo many styles of heels I am still waiting on for G3F, I have nearly all the V4 styles from idler168, Arryn, lilflame and DX30 that I am still waiting to see them come out with G3F versions as well as newer styles.

  • IkyotoIkyoto Posts: 1,159
    Slosh said:

    lol... it is a stylistic outfit, never intended to be realistic... Although, the top is part of a unitard sort of thing, which is tight and stretchy, and would therefore  probably hold things in to a degree.  But thanks for telling me why you didn't like the outfit.  Maybe next time I will put high heels on and a big strap under the chest.  That sounds pretty. (I hope you can tell I'm just teasing)

    You in nothing but high heels and a chest band.. thanks... I was wondering how to loose my appatite... for life.

  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391

    LOL, Ikyoto

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,324
    Slosh said:

    Just so you guys know that some PAs do listen... this type of thread (in the past) is exactly why I did not make the boots on Helix 5 high heeled.  I went for treads, instead.  And if you put G3F in a high heel pose, you can still get the same sexy effect without actually putting your character in high heels.  There will be another product by me coming out soon enough, and it also does not have high heels for the same reason.  Your feedback is taken in by some PAs and we do what we can with it.

    And this is why I, and others will buy your products. And those of other vendors who come onto these forums, treat us with respect, listen to us and address our concerns in a reasonable manner.

    Did I need all of your UHT products? No, the first one met my needs rather well. But I now own 3 of them because you make it ease to support you with my wallet. Now I have to learn how to use the other two, with which your PDF guides and videos are a big help. Which is another reason...

    Oh, never mind. Don't want to give you a swelled head so you decide that you should raise your prices...

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,324
    Slosh said:

    lol... it is a stylistic outfit, never intended to be realistic... Although, the top is part of a unitard sort of thing, which is tight and stretchy, and would therefore  probably hold things in to a degree.  But thanks for telling me why you didn't like the outfit.  Maybe next time I will put high heels on and a big strap under the chest.  That sounds pretty. (I hope you can tell I'm just teasing)

    How about a removable halter top like the original Willow? That would be a nice upgrade.

    http://www.daz3d.com/willow-for-genesis-2-female-s

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    While I am a huge advocate for more heels, I have to admit, the ones on the suit in mention from the OP, do look off with this spacesuit.

    You have enough heels already, let us flat footed people have our say/time in the limelight. ;p

    Funny thing is, I have no problems with options, I want everyone to have what they want. it's just you don't see users that prefer heels complaining about flats that often as you see users complaining about heels, so i just had to make sure I spoke out for the heel fans so that the complaining wasn't all one sided, you know, for the vendors benefit, LOL.

    There are soooo many styles of heels I am still waiting on for G3F, I have nearly all the V4 styles from idler168, Arryn, lilflame and DX30 that I am still waiting to see them come out with G3F versions as well as newer styles.

    You don't see people complaining about flats BECAUSE THERE AEE SO FEW FLATS. There are mountains upon mountains of heels in this store. So much so that it is a breath of fresh air to see something without them.

    Complaining that there are not enough heels in the Daz store would be like going to a Journey concert and complaining there weren't enough power ballads.
  • Complaining that there are not enough heels in the Daz store would be like going to a Journey concert and complaining there weren't enough power ballads.

    Ha! So true.

  • GatorGator Posts: 1,320

    While I am a huge advocate for more heels, I have to admit, the ones on the suit in mention from the OP, do look off with this spacesuit.

    You have enough heels already, let us flat footed people have our say/time in the limelight. ;p

    Funny thing is, I have no problems with options, I want everyone to have what they want. it's just you don't see users that prefer heels complaining about flats that often as you see users complaining about heels, so i just had to make sure I spoke out for the heel fans so that the complaining wasn't all one sided, you know, for the vendors benefit, LOL.

    There are soooo many styles of heels I am still waiting on for G3F, I have nearly all the V4 styles from idler168, Arryn, lilflame and DX30 that I am still waiting to see them come out with G3F versions as well as newer styles.

    Maybe we're just not as vocal about it.

    I've passed on stuff with flats, because ugh, flats. 

    Can't say it without sounding sexist, but I guess I'll say it anyways - it's all fantasy anyhoo.  Female warriors & mages are fantasy in the first place, the world was WAY more sexist hundreds of years ago.  Not to mention armor would cover everything up, robes would too to keep warm at night.  Sci-Fi hasn't happened yet, would generally be more logical for flats but flats don't have the same appeal.

     

    There will always be two camps, don't know how much time it would take, but I think if flats sold that well it would be good to have a flat boot and high heeled boot in a set to appeal to the most customers.

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