My go to apron is the dForce H&C Apron and Casual Outfit for Genesis 8 Male(s) | Daz 3D so I converted it to G9 this morning on my Win 11 and then loaded it up on Victoria 9. There is two ways to load the apron, as a  set with the tee shirt and by itself. Both converted just fine, along with the jeans and boots, I ran into two issues of the breast area and then the triangle at the crotch. For some reason the SY DeTriangulator can't find the installed files I need. But I tried the manual auto-fit of the tee and apron and used the loose fit template and it worked better in this case. The breasts, well I just accepted what I got. For a canvas type apron, this shouldn't be the look. Maybe someone has some suggestions? I didn't bother with Mesh Grabber, I have to get to work. But the apron has two deep pockets, not sure if they are real or not. I have attached the render I did after simulation for you on V9. 

Mary

Elor said:

Adding Vick for Victoria in my cart made the price goes down, from a 51% discount to a 66% one, which is, if I'm correct, a 30 % discount, the wish-list discount.

I don't know if that product is the subject of another discount somewhere in the myriad of currently active promotions.

Edit: I found one product without any discount in my wish-list and it did get the 30 % wish-list discount.

I was comparing items (same selection, same price) that were on my wishlist to ones that werent, and I was getting the same discount... Need to dig in deeper when I get home - Looks like another expensive day as I'm at $129 and 91% off even without using tokens or coupons...

Adding Vick for Victoria in my cart made the price goes down, from a 51% discount to a 66% one, which is, if I'm correct, a 30 % discount, the wish-list discount.

I don't know if that product is the subject of another discount somewhere in the myriad of currently active promotions.

Edit: I found one product without any discount in my wish-list and it did get the 30 % wish-list discount.

I'm curious what others might think of using Micheal and Victoria 4 assets in DAZ Studion 4.22. I wouldn't call it a waste of time, but it is hardly without its problems. What do you think? What is your experience? Do you have more trouble than success? Are those troubles enough to make you sacrifice your generation 4 assets? Do the various conversion utilities persuade you to keep on trying? I'm not criticizing, I really want a round-up of experiences and considered opinions. Thanks to one and all.

Fixmypcmike  #2d

Retained from #2c:

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Pulls:  4157 3886 890

English Village Pub Props 2 90537  https://www.daz3d.com/english-village-pub-props-2

Old Country Farmhouse 48419  https://www.daz3d.com/old-country-farmhouse

M4 Tuxedo 7992  https://www.daz3d.com/m4-tuxedo

Also Used:

Brijitte for Genesis  16398  https://www.daz3d.com/brijitte

Regina Malorum Hair  17225  https://www.daz3d.com/regina-malorum-hair

Dragon Rage  15025  https://www.daz3d.com/dragon-rage

Kimberly Hair  22853  https://www.daz3d.com/kimberly-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-genesis-3-female-s

Dark Storm Outfit from Genesis 3 Starter Essentials  21630  https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-starter-essentials

M4 Tuxedo textures by Chohole

Five years from now (2029)

This was probably the first time in the past ten years that Brijitte and MynX were thinking the exact same thing.

"Is this the end of the world?  Well, if it is, I probably won't be alive long enough to see it."

It looks like I need another pull to finish this story.

Fixmypcmike  #2d

Retained from #2c:

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Pulls:  4157 3886 890

English Village Pub Props 2 90537  https://www.daz3d.com/english-village-pub-props-2

Old Country Farmhouse 48419  https://www.daz3d.com/old-country-farmhouse

M4 Tuxedo 7992  https://www.daz3d.com/m4-tuxedo

Fixmypcmike  #2c

Retained from #2b:

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Pulls:  120 3525 3405

Treasures of Egypt 2 1487  https://www.daz3d.com/treasures-of-egypt-2

Backyard Pergola 31649  https://www.daz3d.com/backyard-pergola

Dashing & Daring Poses 28220  https://www.daz3d.com/dashing-daring-poses-for-lee-7

Also Used:

Brijitte for Genesis  16398  https://www.daz3d.com/brijitte

Regina Malorum Hair  17225  https://www.daz3d.com/regina-malorum-hair

Dragon Rage  15025  https://www.daz3d.com/dragon-rage

Jepe's SteamZ  3884  https://www.daz3d.com/jepes-steamz

Kimberly Hair  22853  https://www.daz3d.com/kimberly-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-genesis-3-female-s

Soulless Outfit for G3F  23095  https://www.daz3d.com/soulless-outfit-for-genesis-3-female-s

Six Years Ago (2018)

Brijitte was ready to scream with frustration, but she knew that wouldn't get her anywhere.  She forced herself to remain calm and focused.  All she knew so far was that she needed to find a person, a boy.  Why?  She had no clue.  What was she supposed to do when she found him?  No idea.  What was special about him?  Unknown.  What he looked like, how old he was, the smoke revealed nothing.

Time to try a different tack.  She cast another divination.

"Who can lead me to the boy?"

Finally the smoke began to reveal something.  A woman holding a sword.  Battered and bruised, her clothing torn, but her stance suggested she had been victorious.

FIND HER, AND YOU WILL FIND THE BOY

Well, that was something.  At least she knew what this woman looked like.  Much better odds than finding one boy out of a billion.

Fixmypcmike  #2c

Retained from #2b:

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Pulls:  120 3525 3405

Treasures of Egypt 2 1487  https://www.daz3d.com/treasures-of-egypt-2

Backyard Pergola 31649  https://www.daz3d.com/backyard-pergola

Dashing & Daring Poses 28220  https://www.daz3d.com/dashing-daring-poses-for-lee-7

Fixmypcmike  #2b

Retained from #2a:

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Pulls:  3833 2554 4078

Monster Skulls HD 44297  https://www.daz3d.com/monster-skulls-hd

Nadia 17758  https://www.daz3d.com/nadia

Easy Environments Winter Fields 79889  https://www.daz3d.com/easy-environments-winter-fields

Also Used:

Pure Hair: Bubblegum for Genesis  13325  https://www.daz3d.com/pure-hair-bubblegum

Demon Armor for Genesis Brute X  14491  https://www.daz3d.com/demon-armor-for-genesis-brute-x

Doomed Poet Clothing 16154  https://www.daz3d.com/doomed-poet-clothing

Soulless Outfit for G3F  23095  https://www.daz3d.com/soulless-outfit-for-genesis-3-female-s

Apprentice Mage in the Tower  16105  https://www.daz3d.com/apprentice-mage-in-the-tower

Five Years Ago (2019)

The giant monster MynX had run through with her sword had shrunk to the form of a human woman.  "I sure hope that means it's dead," she muttered.  "One down, two to go."

Or, not.  The other monsters were gone, nothing left but two giant skulls.  And a kid.  Where the hell did he come from?  And how the hell did he do -- whatever he did?"

Fixmypcmike  #2b

Retained from #2a:

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Pulls:  3833 2554 4078

Monster Skulls HD 44297  https://www.daz3d.com/monster-skulls-hd

Nadia 17758  https://www.daz3d.com/nadia

Easy Environments Winter Fields 79889  https://www.daz3d.com/easy-environments-winter-fields

Fixmypcmike  #2a

Pulls: 3634 1256 1195 4040

MynX for Victoria 7 33831  https://www.daz3d.com/mynx-for-victoria-7

Helen 10611  https://www.daz3d.com/helen

Vintage Boy 10251  http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/10251/start

Khan's Tiger Den Rumble In The Jungle Texture Set DS 68921  https://www.daz3d.com/khans-tiger-den-rumble-in-the-jungle-texture-set

Also Used:

Genesis 1, on Bed:

Brijitte for Genesis  16398  https://www.daz3d.com/brijitte

Regina Malorum Hair  17225  https://www.daz3d.com/regina-malorum-hair

MynX, kneeling:

Water Spirit Warrior Outfit for G3F  33415  https://www.daz3d.com/water-spirit-warrior-outfit-for-genesis-3-female-s

Kimberly Hair  22853  https://www.daz3d.com/kimberly-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-genesis-3-female-s

Genesis 1, Child:

Emelie and Edward Odd  15577  https://www.daz3d.com/emelie-and-edward-odd

Little Melody Hair  15930  https://www.daz3d.com/little-melody-hair

Ready to Play - Backgammon Set  21497  https://www.daz3d.com/ready-to-play-backgammon-set

Part 1: The Present Day (2024)

"He's doing it again," Brijitte whispered.
"They're just playing pieces," MynX replied.
"He's.  Doing.  It.  Again!" Brijitte enunciated through clenched teeth.
MynX sighed.  "I know.  What the hell do we do about it?"

Tag: Fixmypcmike  #2a

Pulls: 3634 1256 1195 4040

MynX for Victoria 7 33831

Helen 10611

Vintage Boy 10251

Khan's Tiger Den Rumble In The Jungle Texture Set DS 68921

Here are clones that allow fitting V3 and M3 clothes to G8 using autofit. They work quite well.

It's time for another round of the RRRR Render Contest.

This time the theme is As the story goes, and the rules are a bit different this time, to I tell you, read through and also look at the example in the Entries only thread.
How does it work?
This played in blocks, where each block consists of at least two renders. You start a block by randomly pull four items as you always do. For newcomers there is an explaination of pulling random items further down. Now make a scene and render an image, still very similar to how RRRR always works. You do not put this into the entries only thread yet. Now, you repull two or three items, keeping one or two of the items you used in the first render. Now, make a prequel or sequel to the first image with the new set of items you have. Now you can call it done, or challenge your luck and make a third psrt of the story, repulling two or three of the items of this last image, and keep going until you think your' done. 
When your done, you create an entry in the Entries only thread with all the images in the order they go in your story, and add some text for each of them. Now, you can start another block, witha fresh 4 item pull. OK, that wasn't very hard was it?

Who can play?

Anyone can play!

How do you prepare yourself for play?

The rules are very simple, but first you need to have all your items in some kind of order in a text file, dumped from the itemized history into a text file or a spread sheet. Remove things like software, gift certs, and special plugins from the list and items that wil not work with the software you work with.
 For example if you have items for Poser, Bryce or Carrara, and want to use DAZ Studio, remove those other items from your list. If you have loads of older figures, M3, M4, a ton of non Iray stuff and you only want to use Studio with Iray, remove all the junk from you list. (I personally will see much joy in dropping Camel, I don't know how many times it has been pulled over the years)

Then you use a randomizer to randomly pick items from your list (your Runtime/My Library) for your start pull . You can use items from any store. Now build a scene with those 4 items plus any other items you want to add to make a fun scene. For newcomers I heartly recommend looking at the previous contests below to get ideas how you can do this. 

Working randomizer:: https://www.random.org/integers

There are some situations where you allowed to redraw, these are:


- You pulled something that doesn’t work, broken thing, only works in a version / software not used etc etc, or you forgot to remove that item from you list even though you knew it wont work, or figure that out later.
- You pulled a software or add-on to a software or anything you should have filtered out from the list.
- You pulled only huge environment props and will not be able to render a scene without crashing.
- You pulled an item you already have been using in two RRRR renders in this content and that was picked randomly. Three is a curse - rule!
Important!
You post your images and pulls in this thread (Don't miss that, entries without pulls and posts in this thread will be disqualified!!). Then when you have a story block of at least two entries, you post that in the entries only thread.
Then the entry should also be posted in the Entries only thread
More rules clarifications...

Bundles
If you pull a bundle, use two or three complete items from it, or more if you like, but you do not need to use all, but only picking a hairpin from Victoria 8 Pro Bundle is “too little”. Clarification: A bundle still counts as only one pulled item.

Poses, Expressions and textures/colors
If you pull a pose pack, an expression pack or a texture/color pack, you only need to use one of them, not all. For example if you pull 500 expressions for Genesis 8 Female, use one, if you pull 128 colors for Frappe Hair, use one.
Accidenty breaking the TOS
If your entry is removed by the forum mods because it accidentally, not deliberate, broke the TOS, you do not have to redo that entry but can move on and make a new pull. 

The rules of madness! 
Now you have successfully and randomly picked your items, make a scene, you can add other items as well but the one you picked should be prominent or cleverly used. Render it, post it and make us all laugh! Remember though that the renders must follow the TOS of the forum. As we have a theme on the contest, the render should in some way touch that theme. 

The contest categories! 
There are two categories Best and Funniest. Every entry block will compete in both categories.

Contest duration!
It starts now at  Saturday February 3, 2024 and will go on all over the holidays until Sunday March 31 2024 at 23:59:59 local DAZ time.

This months sponsors so far:
Totte (Code 66) is sponsoring with two items from his store
Elliandra is sponsoring with two items from her store
 

We want more sponsors!

Do you want to sponsor the RRRR?
Please chip in a gift card sponsorship, sponsors can play, they should play, they are even extra encouraged to play, as sponsors always plays for keeps.

Maximum number of entries? 
For this round it will be a maximum of 7 entry blocks of at least 2 renders per player.

So, good luck and start your render engines!

Thank you, @Chris Palomino

Korpin.Sulat said:

The starter bundle is an item in the pro bundle?

Could it be a way to autmotically hide the Starter Bundle from people who bought the Pro Bundle ?

It's always a bit strange to see, to give an example, one of the Victoria 9 medieval smaller bundles in a sale when I already own her Mega Bundle that include the content of her two smaller medieval bundles.

A challenge about fish, with only two of them in my library, what could go wrong?

Turn out, not so much (at least in the end), but due to unforeseen problems with lighting my main entry, I ended with a backup entry, which also ended as part of the main one.

So, short recap of my thought process.

I didn’t do a battle scene with the shark man from JoeQuick because I wanted one under moonlight with mist and torches and my CPU said something that would get this post moderated (to be honest, it’s part skills, part CPU rendering could take forever for this kind of scene).

Then I was, ‘Oh well, I will do a fast render with a plane doing aerial advertising saying ‘A fish a day keeps fishermen unemployment away’’ but I only have freebies hydroplanes from Porco Rosso in my library and using them for that would have been disrespectful of a great movie.

But what could I do? An hommage to Rug Island (an episode of Bluey) with a pen and a blue dog saying Fish while holding it (great kids show by the way) ?

I lied a bit when I said I only had two fishes in my library: I only have two alive ones but I had cooked ones and I spent most of my time this month playing with the Seaside Apartment I got as a gift during the Advent Calendar last month: why not a meal with fish here ? Initially, I was planning a meal on the balcony (interior lighting is not my forte) but didn’t find a suitable exterior table.

So, I started placing ghost lights in the kitchen around the light spots and lamps and because everything looked nice, I started placing the meal on the table, then Victoria and Lacey. But I ended with overexposed food, underexposed characters and no idea how to fix the situation (and with a scene that took something like 90 minutes to do a 1000 × 667 render…).

I decided to do a faster and simpler render as my entry and as I just got the nice Japanese Portrait Studio Bundle, I decided to go back to Japan (an opportunity to use the onsen by Sugatak that I bought since my previous Japan render), rendering what is now known as the ‘backup entry’: a simple and nice full-length portrait that tourists will do during a stay in Japan, with Victoria and Lacey wearing (freebies) yukatas (I also had kimonos by the same artist in my freebies library, but the long sleeves were painful to use…), a portrait that is now 'A treasured memory' with Lacey wearing a yukata with a koi fish pattern on it.

Then, of course, in a typical brain fashion, mine had an illumination and I was able to improve the lighting of my previously abandoned entry to a point I’m quite happy with (even if some part could still be improved like the book but I don't know how to avoid washing out the text) and I spent a part of yesterday’s evening finding props in my library, adding them here and there to get a better feeling a place where people are living before pressing the render button and going to bed.

My entry takes place after ‘How do I look?’, a render unrelated to this challenge (but also done this month, also with a focus on lighting). Victoria spent her day going and doing an interview for an internship and she's finally ‘Back home’. The centrepiece of her and Lacey’s evening will be a nice meal Lacey cooked:

Outside of the book, I’m also not totally convinced by how the cookies in the oven look, but I don’t have anything else suitable for a dessert in the oven and it was also an opportunity to play with instances, to better understand them and their limitations (you can’t have an instance of an instance).

Gallery link with products used: 'How do I look?'

Last day to post this render, done with a couple of products I got last month during the Advent Calender:

• the Seaside apartment, which looks like a place someone could live in, with a kitchen, a bedroom and a bathroom. An overall great product (except too much glossy props in the kitchen, but that's a story for another render ).
• the cat
• Victoria's clothes, part of Jacqueline 8.1 Undercover Retro Bundle which found its way in my Lightning Deals.

I'm trying to understand lightning a bit better and here, I tried to soften the shadows on Victoria's side (the one facing the camera), at least part of her side not covered by the black turtleneck top.

Edit: I thought I kept a previous render, but I did a before-after changing the light comparison with uncomplete spot renders. If someone has advice regarding the difference (too much light or not enough), I'm all ears

...from the DAZ Store, along with a lot of other older items. I have submitted tickets to Sales about this, but the staffers I've worked with don't appear to know what I'm talking about, asking me repeatedly for SKU numbers that I cannot provide because most of the items in question were around before the SKU system was implemented. I presume that this change ocurred after DAZ 3D was bought out by Tafi.

Oh, how I long for the days when I could just call somebody up at DAZ and get something taken care of.