So the long coat itself works well and doesn't crumple or explode when posed?

I think I need to find these books of yours :) 

A couple of test renders of Veronica Year 3 on one of my favorite characters, BD Esther for V7 (she's on the cover of my first Black Kat book.) 

 

Of your list, these are what I have:

• Mec4d Pbs Shaders - I love these. Seriously, LOVE. She makes INCREDIBLE iray shaders and these are top notch. You will never need to buy another shader for metals especially if you have these. I use them a helluva lot. They are indispensible to me. 
• Subsurface workshop - I just picked these up today. Full admission here - I have pretty much no clue what subsurface is or how to use it or what to do. However, recently I saw two artists I admire very much use these on a render they did with this guy: Toonimal Chameleon in iray, and he looked absolutely fantastic. Now this guy is ooooooooooooooooold. And they made him look like he was brand new and especially made for iray. LOL. I had a quick play tonight using it on Morphing Python and the Cold Blooded texture pack, cos he is one of my favourite animals to use. Made waaaaaay before iray. And I was really really happy with how he came out. I can't give you much advice on what you would use the subsurface shaders for, but suffice to say I was very thrilled with my results tonight, and the vendor who made it is top notch. 
• iray shader kit 2 - another set of fabric shaders i use a LOT. These are one of my favourites. Fabric shaders are an excellent thing to collect - you can use them on anything you need, like clothes, couches, cushions, bed linen etc. And parrotdolphin is damn fine. :) If you're not interested in buying texture add ons for things, shaders are the best bet - and these are one of the best. 
• iray smart converter advanced skin management - now, I don't have this one in particular. But I do own her ones for Genesis, Genesis 2 and Victoria/Micheal 4. I wouldn't be without them. I think her iray converters are an absolute must have, if you want to use previous generations in iray. They're supurb, and if you're like me and rather dumpkopf when it comes to complicated instructions, these are very very easy to use, and very well explained. As you apply the shader, a big box pops up with a heap of useful information. Digging into them a lot further, you can get spectacular results - or you can be like me and just apply them and be done with it. LOL. 

I don't have the Sapphire bundle, but I can say, Raiya is one of the most top notch, brilliant character creators so if you're wanting more Gen3 girls, she's definitely a vendor to buy from. And Outoftouch makes spectacular hair. 

A couple of test renders of Veronica Year 3 on one of my favorite characters, BD Esther for V7 (she's on the cover of my first Black Kat book.) 

I love Uzilite's products/ He (or she?) always puts a ton of morphs in them, and some of them are quite funny (OMG, check out M3's underwear, that's freaking hilarious!)

Anyhow, there are lots of items in the set. The suit fits very well on Esther's ample curves (she's got quite a back end!) I just threw Uber on everything. The gloves are two toned, but the color can be changed easily in the surfaces tab. There are a couple items that didn't fit quite right- the "Heartbreaker" (bracer blades) and "FaithKeeper" (sword). They will take some extra fiddling. Perhaps don't fit them but position them how you want and then parent them instead. I'll try that next along with the mask and helmet.

The collar on the jacket crumples up. I've seen the same thing on a couple of other Uzilite items. It's something with autofit and the bones. I found a tutorial on Evil Innocence's Cross Dresser documentation on those to fix this in Poser, but no info on how to fix in DAZ. I think it needs deformers or a correction in the joint editor. I need to figure out how to do this because I'm using The Marquis for M4 on my next book cover and have this same issue with the collar. 

I'll play some more with the morphs and get that helmet and mask on.

This one is the old "M3 Hardcore" by Uzilite on Victoria 7. Worked really well! the belt for the gun was a bit wonky, but still good. Click for larger. 

So that would be this Legacy UV product? (For Genesis 3 Special Edition. See folks, I used my list!)  I don't have it. 

I believe so, yes. You could achieve a similar effect to the Rogue second skins by selecting G3F's limb and torso surfaces, and applying a scaly shader like this: https://www.daz3d.com/bone-and-fantasy-scale-iray-shaders

So that would be this Legacy UV product? (For Genesis 3 Special Edition. See folks, I used my list!)  I don't have it. 

Novica, these "painted on" or second skins you keep running into are similar to the SexySkinz lace bodysuit for G3F. They are V3 character textures rather than "clothes" per se, and you would need to apply them using whatever tools allow you to use V3 human skins on G3F.  Wear Them All will NOT help.

I don't own the Rogue set, but the product includes both textures for the catsuit (they would be the layer with the, erm ventilation) and second skins for V3. You will need to make sure you are applying catsuit textures to the catsuit, not second skin textures. This promo image shows the second skins: https://www.daz3d.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/3/v3-rogue-pack-2.jpg

Victoria 3.0 Ultra Catsuit
Needed for the Rogue Pack.
Poser Formats>Daz>Figures>V3 Morphing Clothes    For the base outfit
Poser Formats>Daz>Pose>!MAT V3 Catsuit             For hiding outfit sections and provides materials

I reduced the nipples (-36.5%)  on the figure to get the smoother chest look. Note where the sleeves come to, past the wrist, for the catsuit. You may like it, or not. I like it better than too-short sleeves. The silver is how it loaded, out of the box. (LOL, the sword is part of the Rogue Pack.) 

V3 Rogue Pack    I CANT GET THESE MATERIALS TO WORK. 
Poser Formats>Daz>Pose>MAT V3 Rogue  (spaces are important, it's near the top of the list) for the materials.
Poser Formats>Daz>Props>V3 Rogue   for the sword
Poser Formats>Daz>Hands>V3 Rogue   for the grip   (no matter which order I went in, the sword first or pose, or choosing the figure or the hand, it still needed tweaking. Then be sure and parent the sword to the hand if it didn't.) 

Here is the thing about Generation 3 bundles... 
Their regular price really should be $4 for a Victoria 3 Pro Bundle that includes the glamorous wardrobe pack *and* the V3 body and face morphs. Vicki 3 and Aiko 3 and M3 and L3 and Millenium Girls and all of that stuff is just so old and difficult to work with that in my opinion, having the retail price for those bundles at $50-$150 isn't reasonable. 
At $4 each and you need to buy two new releases from a specific SET of new releases, that kind of deal isn't really that exciting to me. 
If I could get them for $4 each and I could pick ANY single new release including $2.99 "Big Bill Pose Set" type items... 
Then I MIGHT impulse buy it. 

I bought a couple of items to qualify, in part because I wanted the fit to.

I find myself looking at the $45 bundle from today, and thinking it is much better value than the$25 ish I spent yesterday. I'll probably return what i got yesterday.

EDIT:

I have done; basically, it left a bad taste in my mouth, having to spend so much to qualify.

For easy reference, I will add this post to the References and if you want to use the legacy outfits, this will help you find them quickly. If you'd like to help build that post, you can also list where you found the items. (You don't have to render them.)  Please put the exact menu path. This should be for CONTENT LIBRARY.  I'm not getting sidetracked into taking this on as a project (I'm weight mapping) but I'll be doing these off and on.

Where To Find Legacy Clothing

These posts will tell you where to find the outfits (and if I have them, other products for them.) 

Far Journeyer (V4 / A4  /G4) 
Zamara for Aiko 3   / How Cute Is That
Victoria 3.0 Ultra Catsuit   (A lot of great material zones) 

Here is the thing about Generation 3 bundles... 
Their regular price really should be $4 for a Victoria 3 Pro Bundle that includes the glamorous wardrobe pack *and* the V3 body and face morphs. Vicki 3 and Aiko 3 and M3 and L3 and Millenium Girls and all of that stuff is just so old and difficult to work with that in my opinion, having the retail price for those bundles at $50-$150 isn't reasonable. 
At $4 each and you need to buy two new releases from a specific SET of new releases, that kind of deal isn't really that exciting to me. 
If I could get them for $4 each and I could pick ANY single new release including $2.99 "Big Bill Pose Set" type items... 
Then I MIGHT impulse buy it. 

Agreed.  There are several PA items for V3 that have been on my W/L  for about 9 years that I would happily buy for $4, but they've never gotten much below $8...

Hi.

I still using V4 and M4 and i render them fine with Iray, but all the new clothes provided by DAZ are for Genesis 3 Female and Male. Is there any posibility to fit their clothes on Generation 4?

Here is the thing about Generation 3 bundles... 
Their regular price really should be $4 for a Victoria 3 Pro Bundle that includes the glamorous wardrobe pack *and* the V3 body and face morphs. Vicki 3 and Aiko 3 and M3 and L3 and Millenium Girls and all of that stuff is just so old and difficult to work with that in my opinion, having the retail price for those bundles at $50-$150 isn't reasonable. 
At $4 each and you need to buy two new releases from a specific SET of new releases, that kind of deal isn't really that exciting to me. 
If I could get them for $4 each and I could pick ANY single new release including $2.99 "Big Bill Pose Set" type items... 
Then I MIGHT impulse buy it. 

Sliders arent there to pose the face.  Under shaping there are a couple sliders to post the face in a general charactr sort of way (victoria 7, vs the Summer caharacter used in the example.  The sliders do appear to be there to move the and pose the other body parts.  For the record.  I haven't bought any advanced morph packages, since basic stuff doesn't seem to work.

Genesis 2

1.- Mouth

2.- Muscles

Muscularity Morphs for Genesis 2 Bundle	Genesis 2 Alive!	Vascularity HD for Genesis 2 Female(s) and Genesis 2 Male(s)
Maximum Vasculum G2F/G2M	MASSIVE Morphs for Genesis 2 Female(s)	MASSIVE Morphs for Genesis 2 Male(s)

3.- Feminine

Breast Control for Genesis 2 Female(s)	Breast Control Puppeteer Support for Genesis 3 Female(s) and Genesis 2 Female(s)	Glute Control for Genesis 2 Female(s) and V6	Glute and Breast Control Bundle for Genesis 2 Female(s)

4.- Shape

Shape Shift for Genesis 2 Female and V6	Shape Shift for Genesis 2 Male(s) / M6	Belly Control For Genesis 2 Female(s) and V6
Belly Control For Genesis 2 Male(s) Unavailable	Big Beautiful Genesis 2 Female(s)	Big Boys for Genesis 2 Male(s)

5.- Skin

Skin Builder Pro for Genesis and Genesis 2 Female(s)	Skin Blender	Brow Remover for Daz Studio

Skin Overlay Merchant Resource for V4 and M4 Skin Sets	Skin Overlay for V4 and M4 Skin Sets	Skin Overlay Merchant Resource for V5 and M5 Skin Sets	Skin Overlay for V5 and M5 Skin Sets

It need V4UV-for-G2 in Victoria 4 for Genesis 2 Female and M4UV-for-G2 in Michael 4 for Genesis 2 Male to works with Genesis 2 figure.

It don't need any other product to works in Genesis 2 figure because V5UV-for-G2 and M5UV-for-G2 are contained in DS4

Human Essentials for Iray	JM HumanShader for Iray	Iray Smart Converter and Advanced Skin Managers for Genesis 2
HDRI Optimized Skin & Hair Shaders	N.G.S. Anagenessis 2 - Revolution	EcVh0 Iray Skin Shader for Genesis 2 Female(s)

Beautiful Skin Iray Genesis 2 Female(s)	Beautiful Skin Iray Genesis 2 Male(s)	Beautiful Skin Genesis 2 Iray Bundle

6.- Age

Aging Morphs 2 Bundle HD	Aging Morphs 2 for Genesis 2 Female(s)/V6 HD	Aging Morphs 2 for Genesis 2 Male(s)/M6 HD

 If you goin to buy Growing Up Male and Growing Up Female, it is better buy  bundle, it is cheaper than two GUp's and contain GUp for Genesis.

7.- Hands & Feet Control

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Body Improvements

Genesis 1

1.- Mouth

2.- Muscles

Genesis Evolution: Muscularity	Genesis Alive	Vascularity HD for Genesis

3.- Feminine

Glute and Breast Movement for Genesis

4.- Shape

Shape Shift for Genesis	Belly Control for Genesis	Face Weight For Genesis	No SY-Big

5.- Skin

Skin Builder Pro for Genesis and Genesis 2 Female(s)	Skin Blender	Brow Remover for Daz Studio

Skin Overlay Merchant Resource for V4 and M4 Skin Sets	Skin Overlay for V4 and M4 Skin Sets	Skin Overlay Merchant Resource for V5 and M5 Skin Sets	Skin Overlay for V5 and M5 Skin Sets

It don't need any other product to works in Genesis 1 figure because V4UV-for-G1 and M4UV-for-G1 are contained in DS4

It need V5UV-for-G1 in Victoria 5 and M5UV-for-G1 in Michael 5 to works with Genesis 1 figure.

Human Essentials for Iray G1/G2F/G2M/G3F	JM HumanShader for Iray V4/M4/G1/G2/G3	N.G.S. Anagenessis 2 - Revolution
Iray Converter for Genesis	Iray Converter for Generation 4	Iray Converter for Genesis and Generation 4 Bundle

6.- Age

Aging Morphs For Genesis	Aging Details HD for Genesis Aging Morphs	Growing Up for Genesis	Growing Up Bundle

 If you goin to buy Growing Up Male and Growing Up Female for Genesis 2, it is better buy  bundle, it is cheaper than two GUp's and contain GUp for Genesis.

7.- Hands & Feet Control

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Here's a list of some of the utilities to work across different generations. It will be in the Reference post of this thread (the second post.)  

It doesn't matter if you are going from a higher generation to a lower one, or a lower to the higher- this list will put the product in the LOWEST generation involved.    This is because some of these products can involve multiple generations as options.
Generation 3
GenX AddOn Gen3 Bundle  Transfer morphs for Victoria 3, Michael 3, Stephanie 3 Petite, David 3, The Freak 3, Aiko 3, and Hiro 3 to Genesis and Genesis 2.

GenX2 AddOn Gen3 Kids  Transfer base shape of Laura, Luke, Maddie, and Matt, using GenX2, to Genesis and Genesis 2. (see Genesis Generation X2 for requirements for using Genesis 2.) 

Legacy UVs for Genesis 3 Special Edition: Victoria 3  Use Victoria 3 textures on Genesis 3 Females.

 

Generation 4
Genesis Generation X2  For Generation 4, Genesis, Genesis 2 to transfer morphs between the generations. 
GenX2 also translates poses or expressions with morph values and morph injections or shaping presets to be used with the transferred morphs. (Must have GenX2 AddOn For Genesis 2 to use Genesis 2, and to transfer morphs between the two Genesis 2 figures (Male/Female.) 

Wear Them All- Autofitting Clones And Clothing Smoothers For Genesis 3 Females
Autofit Victoria 4, Michael 4, Genesis and Genesis 2 Female clothing to Genesis 3 Female (also contains cleaveage smoothers/fixers)

Wear Them All- Autofitting Clones And Clothing Smoothers For Genesis 3 Males
Autofit Victoria 4, Michael 4, Genesis and Genesis 2 Female clothing to Genesis 3 Male(also contains bulge fixers/chest smoothers/fixers)

Michael 4 For Genesis 2 Males  Use Michael 4 textures, morphs, and clothing on Genesis 2 Males. Note: the UVs can also be applied to Genesis 2 Female.

Legacy UVs For Genesis 3: Michael 4   Use Michael 4 textures on Genesis 3 Males.

Victoria 4 for Genesis 2 Females   Use Victoria 4 textures, morphs and clothing on Genesis 2 Females.  See the next product if you want to avoid manually doing the process.

V4 Skins Auto Converter For Genesis 2 Female(s)  Reads V4 texture files  .ds  .dsa   .PZ2  and converts them for you so you don't have to do them one by one. It's a "speed it up helper" for the Victoria 4 For Genesis 2 Females. 

Generation 4 Legacy Shapes for Genesis 2 Male(s) Use the shapes of Genesis Basic Male, Michael 4, Hiro 4, and The Freak 4 on your Genesis 2 Males.

Generation 4 Legacy Shapes for Genesis 2 Female(s)  Use the shapes of Genesis Basic Female, Victoria 4, Stephanie 4, Aiko 4, and The Girl 4 on Genesis 2 Females.

Kids 4 UVs for Genesis 2 Male(s) and Female(s):  Check your Product Library, it was a limited time freebie at Christmas and not available in the store. Many thanks to Draagonstorm. Includes the Kids 4 textures and custom boy and girl morphs

 

Genesis

Genesis 2 Male and Female Base UVs for Genesis   Use any textures made with the Genesis 2 Male or Female Base on Genesis.

Victoria 6 and Michael 6 UVs for Genesis  Use any textures based on the Victoria or Michael 6 on Genesis.

Generation 5 UV Bundle for Genesis 2 Male(s)  Contains the UV sets for David 5, Hiro 5, and Freak 5. (Michael 5 already comes with Genesis 2.) If any of your Generation 5's require the Michael 4 UVs, you must own Michael 4 for Genesis 2 Males. (see description under Generation 4) 

Generation 5 Legacy Shapes for Genesis 2 Male  Shapes include Genesis (1) Basic Male, Michael 5, Michael 5 Hero, David 5, Hiro 5, Freak 5, Freak 5 SuperFreak, and Young Teen Justin. Additional head shapes are included for Michael 5 (two additional heads), David 5 (three additional heads), Freak 5 (six additional heads), and Young Teen Justin (one additional head

Generation 5 UV Bundle for Genesis 2 Female(s)  Contains the UV sets for Aiko 5 and Stephanie 5. (Victoria 5 already comes with Genesis 2.) If any of your Generation 5's require the Victoria 4 UVs, you must own Victoria 4 for Genesis 2 Females.

Generation 5 Legacy Shapes for Genesis 2 Female(s)   Shapes for Genesis (1) Basic Female, Victoria 5, Victoria 5 SuperModel, Stephanie 5, Stephanie 5 Curvy and Model Bodies, Aiko 5, and Young Teen Julie. Additional head shapes are included for Stephanie 5 (two additional heads) and Young Teen Julie (three additional heads). Put the shapes on Genesis 2 Females.

Genesis 2 Female Clone For Genesis  Use Genesis 2 Female clothing on Genesis. 

Legacy UVs for Genesis 3: Genesis Pack   Use Michael 5, David 5, Stephanie 5, and Aiko 5 textures on Genesis 3.

Legacy UVs for Genesis 3: Victoria 5  Use your Victoria 5 textures on Genesis 3 Female.
 

Genesis 2

GenX2 AddOn for Genesis 2   So GenX2 can be used with Genesis 2. Now, it's possible to transfer morphs from Genesis and supported Poser figures to Genesis 2 Male and Female. In addition, morphs may be transferred from Genesis 2 to Genesis or between the Male and Female version of Genesis 2

Genesis 2 to Genesis 3 Pose Converter:   Convert your Genesis 2 poses to Genesis 3.  (Male and Female)  
Pose Builder for Genesis 3   Mix and match Genesis 2 and Genesis 3 poses.
 
Genesis 3 Female For Genesis 2 Female(s)   Autofit Genesis 3 Female clothing to Genesis 2 Females.
Genesis 3 Male For Genesis 2 Male(s)    Autofit Genesis 3 Male Clothing to Genesis 2 Males.
Genesis 3 UVs For Genesis 2 Female(s)  Use Genesis 3 textures on Genesis 2 Females
Genesis 3 UVs For Genesis 2 Male(s)   Use Genesis 3 textures on Genesis 2 Males
Legacy UVs for Genesis 3: Victoria 6   Use Victoria 6 textures on Genesis 3 Females.

Legacy UVs for Genesis 3: Genesis 2 Male and Michael 6  Use the Genesis 2 Base Male and Michael 6 textures on Genesis 3 Male.
Genesis 2 Legacies For Genesis 3 Male: Heroes  Shapes for Michael 6, Gianni 6, Darius 6, Lee 6, and Scott 6, as well as an optimized version of the Genesis 2 Base Male, to put on Genesis 3 Male.
Genesis 2 Legacies for Genesis 3 Female: Stylish  Shapes for Giselle 6, Keiko 6, Lilith 6, and Ninive 6, as well as an optimized version of the Genesis 2 Base Female, to put on Genesis 3 Female.

Genesis 2 Legacies for Genesis 3 Female: Beauties   Shapes for Olympia 6, Monique 6, Mei Lin 6, and Gia 6, as well as an optimized version of the Genesis 2 Base Female.

Genesis 2 Legacies for Genesis 3 Female: Classics   Shapes for Victoria 6, Aiko 6, Stephanie 6, and The Girl 6, as well as an optimized version of the Genesis 2 Base Female.
 

Genesis 3 
Genesis 3 UV Swap: Male and Female Base  Put the female textures on the male, and the male on the female.
GenX2 AddOn For Genesis 3  Now, it's possible to transfer morphs from Genesis, Genesis 2, and supported Poser figures to Genesis 3 Male and Female. Read the description for more information.
 

I love all the Genesis 2 Legacies for G3. I got those before I purchased any G2s when I first started with DS last March and it's so cool to use Keiko on G3! And they really add to the gene pool!  To be honest, I don't really see a need for G2s, although by now I've collected a bunch in supersales but I rarely use them. I suppose I should because now I own so many and I do like Aiko 6, Lilith 6 and the Girl 6 better than the 7 versions and the legacy versions for G3 aren't EXACTLY the same but close. I'm actually surprised Daz allowed those products...

Here's a few things I'm considering from the 85% sale. I've taken the time to do calculations (not typing those up, just believe me) and if you buy enough of the 85% items, when getting two of the new ones (which triggers 20% more off) it works out to the new items dropping to $6-8 apiece when figuring the savings. I'm thinking UberBase then Iray shaders, and you get some real treasures. 

The first one which is a must have for me is the athletic uniform, because it doesn't have the stupid low slung waists that many newer ones have. D Formers are not hard to do and you can make areas which dip in to get even more variety. Remember, think shaders for a fun polyester look. 
Female Tees N Tracks      Male Tees N Tracks  See also Jersey Set for Stephanie 3 Petite

Now look at these two. The second one turns the pants into capri pants and shorts. The shirt waistline has a nice hem. Good attention to detail. You can make so many outfits with these two! (and I actually like the materials in the second one. Just UberBase!
V3 and SP Clothing Pack  (not impressive, but look at the second one, which changes thing to shorts and capris. It's NOT just textures.)
Pastels for V3/SP3 Clothing Pack    Change up those outfits!

Love these for toys! It's a pose set and oh what fun for toy soldiers!  (Grab the M3 Cavalry and Millennium Horse which are required)
Cavalry Action  

The Kenji the Scrapper outfit is rather sleek, I like it. ANd Rudi's poofy pants are unique.
The Shepherd is a classic. That head cover with the "winged out" area can be easily fixed with either bones or a dformer.
Did you catch the one by Luthbel?  Wildenlander

Outfits that many others are based on:
M3 Ultra BodySuit  (See Concord Series)   M3 Hooded Cloak (a PC item)   M3 Tunic Pack
Then you can have outfits like the Elvish Styles
The Victoria 3 Ultra Catsuit is required for a lot of the scifi ones.  (See Concord series) 

This V4 product will tell you what you need (I didn't mess with the V3, just V4, and I've had this for years.)  Note the PC+ items are not further discounting. So there's no rush.
 

Well, the 85% off was a deciding factor for me because I added up what I'd be paying if those items were each a dollar or two more, and if you buy enough of the older content, it brought the price down of the new releases to about $6-$8 each. (when calculating what you're saving on the other, and the discount applied for buying two which is 20%.) And the discount on the older stuff was still about 70-75% when I raise it a dollar or so. There's a jogging/athletic outfit that doesn't have the stupid low slung waist (SICK of those) and several other items that are IMO better made than some of the items recently. Think shaders (Uber Base and make it Iray first) and there's some really fascinating stuff. If you do get anything, look at the Victoria catsuit because some of the neat uniform items require it. 

And I got a Gift Card when it was around 20%, right when the MM was ending. Plus some returns as I am not tweaking (a aka, here's a "fix.")  a darned thing now, if something is wrong, back it goes the same day.) 

The Generation 3 Wear Them All, from left to right:

Victoria 7, Mirillian Suit (V3), Andy Hair (V3): Someone give that woman a sandwich!

X-Leonore, Daedalus Rudi (A3), Amarseda Hair (A3). Some small weirdnesses in the jacket, but gorgeous outfit

Ceridwen, Barbarian clothes (V3), Christine Hair (V3) "Why do I always end up wearing the chainmail without padding?"

Textures on the clothes converted to Iray, hairs all have UHT Iray shaders applied.